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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:09 AM Mar 2017

It's not about "talking to the Russians" it's about selling Crimea

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Argh this is even worse than the W days, the extent to which the public narrative misses the point. Nobody gives a damn that somebody said hi to an ambassador. This is important because Trump pushed through a platform change that gave carte blanche to Russia to keep Crimea.

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cheyanne

(733 posts)
1. Also no one is mentioning the Tillerson connection to Putin. PUtin needs sanctions dropped to take
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:43 AM
Mar 2017

advantage of Exxon deal to exploit Russia's oil. Exxon upfronts the technology and knowhow and putin gets billions for selling the oil.

Another case of follow the money.

I've read that Crimea ports give Putin an outlet for his oil.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
6. even just talking about hacking the DNC to Russians is illegal. It's being an accessory
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:16 PM
Mar 2017

to a crime.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
3. Crimea happened under Obama's watch and the U.S. did nothing
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:12 PM
Mar 2017

because no one really cares except the neo-cons who would love a second Cold (or even another Hot) war. Crimea has historically been part of Russia for hundreds of years and the people, who are mainly Russian, wanted to be part of Russia because of historical reasons and also it meant an immediate rise in the standard of living. No one wanted to be part of an inept and bankrupt Ukraine government.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
10. riiiight.....so where does trump go for his Crimea? you know they're plottin' away
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:20 PM
Mar 2017

clean up Armenia! get a harelip!

Indonesia for the Indonesians!



 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
4. EXACTLY! and now that JD what's his name has surfaced, why
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:13 PM
Mar 2017

aren't they going after him the way they went after, oh, say, Hillary's emails, or the Clinton Foundation

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
7. It's about Crimea, and about Trump's debt to Russian bankers...s
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:18 PM
Mar 2017

and about keeping Europe dependent in Russian oil & natural gas so there's less guys when Estonia & Ukraine are brought back in to Russia's orbit.

Politics is complicated

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
9. reminds me of an old joke. Why did the kommissar shoot the colonel?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:19 PM
Mar 2017

because he was a better politician

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