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MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:38 PM Mar 2017

I think Donald Trump is very afraid at this moment.

I think he knows that the lid's about to blow off, and he's scrambling to raise some sort of smoke screen with his tweets, ect. But, there's so much he doesn't know. He knows that he's vulnerable and that there is stuff out there that would end his presidency, but he doesn't know who knows what and when it will become public.

He is acting like someone who is on the edge of panic due to fear of what is unknown. He knows what he's trying to hide, and just can't be sure if someone already has that information or not. I'm sure he's quite beside himself, which is why he's hiding out at Mar-a-Lago this weekend, once again.

Trump is afraid that it's all about to crumble down around him, and he has no clue when or how to prevent the collapse.

We may be on the verge of something, but I'm not certain yet exactly what it is. Watch the headlines and breaking news.

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I think Donald Trump is very afraid at this moment. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2017 OP
Yes. He knows its on its way and he can't stop it. caroldansen Mar 2017 #1
This is like a dream come true! InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2017 #123
He bravely ran away, away... smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #2
Yes. And he went down to Mar-a-Lago pretty much alone. MineralMan Mar 2017 #5
I'm kind of wondering if he'll come back. He knows he's in a buttload smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #13
Yeah! Me too! no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #101
Yeah, no meatloaf. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #112
staying with friends in Moscow! putitinD Mar 2017 #151
I heard on CNN that W.H. aides were booking it pronto down to Florida this morning! PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #34
Tequila for me. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #43
I hope they didn't take the train... LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2017 #107
War, no doubt. C Moon Mar 2017 #109
Yup, waging the dog with a new war lester94111 Mar 2017 #129
presidents just don't travel alone... dhill926 Mar 2017 #39
No wonder he's afraid of the ghosts in the White House. He has a guilty notdarkyet Mar 2017 #41
Just like Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov, mobeau69 Mar 2017 #48
I started a thread on this.....he's got to be imploding Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #51
He's likely terrified about now. mobeau69 Mar 2017 #63
Okay--I'll bite. Who's that? notdarkyet Mar 2017 #56
cluesville....time to start boning up on your Russian novels Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #60
Yeah been at least ten years. I think the last was war and peace but the notdarkyet Mar 2017 #68
Don't knock the "Classics Illustrated" Nevernose Mar 2017 #103
The protagonist from Crime and Punishment IamFortunesFool Mar 2017 #66
"Details, details above all! Its these details that ruin everything always..." mobeau69 Mar 2017 #80
I will always remember him as Patrick Bateman's IamFortunesFool Mar 2017 #87
I haven't read it but if the book is good enough for a screenplay then mobeau69 Mar 2017 #90
Thank you. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #84
"Crime & Punishment," by Dostoyevsky. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #75
"It was I who killed Hillary Clinton's lead with hacks and robbed her of the presidency!" (nt) betsuni Mar 2017 #148
That's ridiculous Lokilooney Mar 2017 #139
I hope those ghosts in the White House go all poltergeist on him! putitinD Mar 2017 #152
Alone? Didn't he fly in his NY escort? keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #140
President Bannon Scarsdale Mar 2017 #156
He certainly is behaving like a frightened person. madaboutharry Mar 2017 #3
But, he's not sure if they DO know his big secret. MineralMan Mar 2017 #7
Bet a lot has to do with his secret server straight to a Russian bank. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #44
I agree, MineralMan. Thus, the twitter storm this morning at sunrise. Grammy23 Mar 2017 #49
:) Agree with you and Mineral Man. I hadn't known Hortensis Mar 2017 #85
"indicts himself nearly every time..." dchill Mar 2017 #86
More than one "thing" MedusaX Mar 2017 #92
One would think he has more important things to do, right now, than vent his spleen on Twitter Siwsan Mar 2017 #4
Narcissists rarely feel fear. He's likely just PISSED leftstreet Mar 2017 #6
Tend to agree. Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #17
Agree w/you. He's angry about Sessions' recusal. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #32
Look at the self demeaning participation loyalsister Mar 2017 #50
IOW, exactly the same as his benighted, deplorable throng of Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #58
Yep loyalsister Mar 2017 #88
Love that portrait! GetRidOfThem Mar 2017 #158
Excellent point leftstreet Mar 2017 #61
Oh but they can and do Mme. Defarge Mar 2017 #81
Narcissists do fear at least one thing, though: rejection. manicraven Mar 2017 #96
It's my first day off, and I can't stay away from the news! BigDemVoter Mar 2017 #8
LOL. I've got CNN on 24/7 and can't get anything done. mobeau69 Mar 2017 #102
Uncertainty is our ally in this case Cirque du So-What Mar 2017 #9
Yup. It's good to keep him on the edge. MineralMan Mar 2017 #12
Given his character (or lack thereof) Cirque du So-What Mar 2017 #18
Him and Giuliani never know when or what to shut up about. They want to brag. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #45
He could pull a Nathan Jessup. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #144
You want me on that wall ... you NEED me on that wall!!! mr_lebowski Mar 2017 #150
I love that movie. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #160
And then he'd have to pick his hair up from the floor N77VG Mar 2017 #162
LOL ...and tucks it under his armpit like Jessup does with his hat. Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #163
Obama was very smart to preserve the intelligence throughout several different agencies. Tatiana Mar 2017 #10
for the first time in his life ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #11
Exactly, we are not scared of him and his minions. Thinkingabout Mar 2017 #126
Don't think so. elfin Mar 2017 #14
+1 leftstreet Mar 2017 #16
Nice visuals! Yeah, you painted quite a picture for sure! PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #35
I love the visual... WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #115
He seems desperate. Is anyone afraid he'll try to harm himself? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #15
No. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #24
I hadn't thought about it that way. You're probably correct! NurseJackie Mar 2017 #29
Is anyone afraid he'll try to harm himself? Marie Marie Mar 2017 #70
No. He would never harm himself. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #74
Oh? And how would he do that? Let's brainstorm... Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #127
Silk bathrobe belt? NurseJackie Mar 2017 #128
He would never harm himself. All his narcissistic rage is directed outward. Hekate Mar 2017 #132
That, my friend, is a distinct possibility. NurseJackie Mar 2017 #147
And what of Putin? Right now, Trump has to be pretty MineralMan Mar 2017 #19
Looks like some karmic justice might come his way. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #26
"Who can you trust, Donald?" That sounds like a great title for a very dark film erronis Mar 2017 #46
Russian news had a story telling people Putin did not want them to talk about trump notdarkyet Mar 2017 #53
I see a metal-tipped umbrella in Donald's future ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #145
I think that is his normal state... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #20
He's like a three year old who's broken a vase and trying to convince mom the dog did it. Squinch Mar 2017 #21
Something like that, yes. MineralMan Mar 2017 #22
Well yes, but he isn't smart enough to have gone there yet though. He just knows he's in trouble Squinch Mar 2017 #23
Them Chihuahua dogs are a lot stronger than you think. :) Jim Beard Mar 2017 #125
Agree. ananda Mar 2017 #25
ive got MY popcorn! samnsara Mar 2017 #27
I hope he's scared shitless. Lint Head Mar 2017 #28
I don't. Not saying the man cannot be scared, a bald eagle made him shit his pants. Rex Mar 2017 #30
Also oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #31
He seems more like an angry temper tantrum than actual fear. procon Mar 2017 #33
I wonder if he knows the story of Achilles N77VG Mar 2017 #36
He ain't that pretty. Iggo Mar 2017 #111
Trump is at a crossroads C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #37
He is not only terrified. He is beginning to get Enoki33 Mar 2017 #77
He's surrounded himself with generals. Texin Mar 2017 #114
Those really in power knew this would happen by allowing Trump to go untethered to Mar a Lago? Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #38
Hey Donald world wide wally Mar 2017 #40
At Putin's orders, by one of the busboys from Outer Slobbovia Hekate Mar 2017 #133
It seems like every few days a new revelation comes out that appears to be the end of trump Victor_c3 Mar 2017 #42
I could guess 2 or 3 different directions bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #47
Trump has cheated or stolen for almost everything in his life ..... now why would anybody think .... Botany Mar 2017 #52
You people think he's smart enough to be afraid? mdbl Mar 2017 #54
Agreed. n/t janx Mar 2017 #57
Nothing to lose StarryNite Mar 2017 #55
yeah, I think there is some panic there fishwax Mar 2017 #59
The very old "blame it on Obama" routine just doesn't have the same zing any more randr Mar 2017 #62
Season 5 of the Americans Premiers Tuesday and regardless of INdemo Mar 2017 #64
Afraid is an understatement. El Viejo Mar 2017 #65
You expressed exactly how I feel myself. ClusterFreak Mar 2017 #67
I disagree. That's the way a normal official in a functioning spooky3 Mar 2017 #69
Don't know why he is afraid. There could be a tape of him giving the nuclear codes to Putin and the kairos12 Mar 2017 #71
Or giving the key to Putin keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #141
someone is going to do a Freedom of information request Monday morning. Scruffy1 Mar 2017 #72
He thinks he can still bully, lie and buy his way out of everything. There's a whole world out there RKP5637 Mar 2017 #95
Not helping Wibly Mar 2017 #73
No it is not actually...sort of an odd post this... Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #78
I posted something similar to this... WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #120
Quite possible they know bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #76
Shit tsunami headed his way. nt oasis Mar 2017 #79
Like when one falls from the 47th floor window... oh, the anticipatory terror. WheelWalker Mar 2017 #82
Trump's fire was on the 47th floor. keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #142
I will politely but strongly disagree. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2017 #83
What you said. n/t orangecrush Mar 2017 #94
Excellent post....NT WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #121
The analogy the DT reminds me of when he's in trouble: lambchopp59 Mar 2017 #135
This morning, the president of The United States accused the beloved mobeau69 Mar 2017 #89
No, not with his base he didn't. cwydro Mar 2017 #98
You'll have that. n/t mobeau69 Mar 2017 #108
I agree MFM008 Mar 2017 #91
He has been since before the election. His whole personality and demeanor changed when he even joet67 Mar 2017 #93
I think he only fears embarrassment and ridicule DFW Mar 2017 #97
As long as his handlers keep the nuke codes away from him... Hekate Mar 2017 #99
It would be up to Mattis to save the world. mobeau69 Mar 2017 #110
I tend to agree. Foamfollower Mar 2017 #100
And Trump probably thought he had conned everyone. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #104
I'm not convinced Trump is afraid. democrank Mar 2017 #105
This!! n/t phylny Mar 2017 #157
I read he was raging about Sessions recusing himself salin Mar 2017 #106
He's furious because Sessions was going to be his ace in the hole within the Justice Dept. Texin Mar 2017 #119
If he ain't, he oughta be. Iggo Mar 2017 #113
This is like... WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #116
I think one of these trips to mar-a-lago he will try to leave the country... cbdo2007 Mar 2017 #117
I don't think he's in a panic gwheezie Mar 2017 #118
That is my sense too. I imagine it looks like this inside the White House Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #122
He SHOULD be worried. The pieces are moving and I dont think AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #124
I wonder if he is familiar with the... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #130
Its all about the income tax !! Jim Beard Mar 2017 #131
That kind off strong negative feeling could be bad for his health. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #134
Well, considering he doesn't give a rat's ass about health... Initech Mar 2017 #136
He still have that 'mail dRumpf your pee' bidness in operation? Mc Mike Mar 2017 #161
I hope his melt/crackdown is epic and will break the spell he has over his supporters. kimbutgar Mar 2017 #137
I had one of my psychic feelings that are usally 100% Swagman Mar 2017 #138
Why, because he's saying crazy shit? customerserviceguy Mar 2017 #143
We all need to watch him closely NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #146
He should be afraid. nt SunSeeker Mar 2017 #149
If V.P. Pence talks, it's all over left-of-center2012 Mar 2017 #153
Excuse my language, but I hope... Puzzler Mar 2017 #154
he's tweeting again-bad deflection. nocalflea Mar 2017 #155
But if we have a traitorous congress, nothing, I repeat nothing will come of it. Fla Dem Mar 2017 #159

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
5. Yes. And he went down to Mar-a-Lago pretty much alone.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:43 PM
Mar 2017

His closest advisers aren't down there with him. They're in the dark about all of this, too.

It would be almost comical if it weren't so serious. Trump's scared of something.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
13. I'm kind of wondering if he'll come back. He knows he's in a buttload
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:46 PM
Mar 2017

of trouble. He's too much of a coward to face it. He will leave it to other's to deal with it. He will never take responsibility. He will never man up and face the music.

no_hypocrisy

(45,999 posts)
101. Yeah! Me too!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:26 PM
Mar 2017

Airplane problems.

Toilet won't turn off.

White House out of meatloaf.


He'll come up with some excuse not to return to DC.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
34. I heard on CNN that W.H. aides were booking it pronto down to Florida this morning!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:18 PM
Mar 2017

I imagine their hair is on fire and they're devising a plan (any plan!) to try to get this run-away freight train from leaving the tracks and flying off into the gorge below.
I also imagine there's a good deal of nausea involved and the consumption of copious amounts of TUMS. (either that or whiskey straight shots)

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
41. No wonder he's afraid of the ghosts in the White House. He has a guilty
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mar 2017

Conscious and knows he doesn't belong there. I'm sure Lincoln is a very haunting Spector.

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
48. Just like Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov,
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

at some point, if he isn't already there, he'll be thankful when the big shoe finally falls. The pressure's gotta be unbearable. Even for an asshole like him.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
51. I started a thread on this.....he's got to be imploding
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017

nobody, unless they're bipolar, and on a sustained manic trip, can keep up under this sort of pressure

my mom could go for days when she was up, but when it was over, she crashed HARD. every so often had to have the ECT.

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
63. He's likely terrified about now.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

"Surely it isn't beginning already! Surely it isn't my punishment coming upon me? It is!"

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
60. cluesville....time to start boning up on your Russian novels
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:07 PM
Mar 2017

bet your ass that twitler doesn't know, either, unless he hit the classic comics back in the day

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
68. Yeah been at least ten years. I think the last was war and peace but the
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

Russian names always trip me up.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
103. Don't knock the "Classics Illustrated"
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

There was some great work in those. Besides, anyone who can't understand a novel can't understand a comic book, either.

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
80. "Details, details above all! Its these details that ruin everything always..."
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:29 PM
Mar 2017


He may be in Mar-A-Lago but he's not in a good place. I still have no sympathy for him and never will though. To me, I think it was the birther crap that I could never foregive. I always think about those sweet little girls.

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
87. I will always remember him as Patrick Bateman's
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

personal hero in Bret East on Ellis's book, American Psycho. I first read that book in 1997 and it was the first exposure I really had to the phenomena that was/is the Donald Trump dumpster fire outside of random socialite news blurbs which I never have paid any attention to.

Every time I think about Trump I think about all the graphic things Bateman did... Most of which were NOT shown in the shitty movie adaptation. The book was a pure force of madness, brilliantly written.

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
90. I haven't read it but if the book is good enough for a screenplay then
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

the book is always way better. I'll put it on my retirement reading list.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
156. President Bannon
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 08:30 AM
Mar 2017

flew down separately to join him. Little Reince is still in the dog house in DC. First "lady" Ivanka and Jared tRump are with him. I think Ivanka controls his medications. Of course he is panicking. He just attained the lifestyle to which he would LOVE to become accustomed, on taxpayer $$$$. His sons Beavis and Butthead might have to finally find actual WORK!!

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
7. But, he's not sure if they DO know his big secret.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

I'll bet he thinks they might, though. Now, I don't know what his big secret is, but Donald does. He also knows what happens if it gets out. So, he's scared, alone, and panicky.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
49. I agree, MineralMan. Thus, the twitter storm this morning at sunrise.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:57 PM
Mar 2017

He likes to think he is the smartest guy in the world and can outwit anyone who dares to defy him. But it really is an illusion and people a lot smarter than him are deflecting his baseless claims about Obama ordering the wiretaps without any clue that it just does not work that way. He really is as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to how governing works. Plus, he is way too stubborn to let anyone who knows how it all works take a wag at enlightening him on a few things. So he just goes out on twitter like the proverbial bull in the China shop, knocking over tables, destroying priceless heirlooms and scaring the shop keeper half to death.

Actually, Twitter is the gift that keeps on giving so let him rave on. He indicts himself nearly every time he picks up his phone. He will make someone's job much easier!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
85. :) Agree with you and Mineral Man. I hadn't known
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:37 PM
Mar 2017

that 45 left most advisers behind when I was reading this morning's twitter storm.

Conservative-leaning/DC-insider Politico has an article about what seems an ongoing "obsession" with Obama. 45's stream-of-consciousness comments apparently circle back, or zag straight over to him unusually often as it seems to observers.

The end of that Politico article:

"As is usually the case, Trump’s supporters in the conservative media gave him all he seems to feel he needs (convincing of an Obama wiretap). The Twitter fury that Trump greeted the world with Saturday morning appears to have wormed its way from conservative radio host Mark Levin to White House chief strategist Steve Bannon’s former Breitbart News website to the president pecking out on his phone, “Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

Very quickly, he got an echo from a reliable source.

“What did OBAMA know and when did he know it??” Hannity wrote on Twitter.


MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
92. More than one "thing"
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017

The wire tap Tweet was meant for Vlad...and any other komrades in his little klan ...
As a heads up that the proverbial cat is about to escape the bag ...

However.... 45 may not know which cat /bag .... as there are likely multiple possibilities...


It would not surprise me if part of the plan is/was to find & eliminate any records/documents/departments that may have been collecting info on Trumps business activities & partners for years...
As well as get rid of any employees with knowledge of such "investigations"....
By bringing in all of his billionaire buddies... they would all have access to sensitive data &aplenty of opportunities to "clean up" ...

if any "enemies" tried to investigate then Jeff B sessions was going to be there to shoot down all claims & perhaps even proactively incriminate enemies just to get them out of the way/ force them to resign or desist ....

he likely thought...
Surely, once he was crowned king
None of the Agencies would ever consider charging him or his cabinet members with crimes....

Or at least that's what Rudy G probably told him about how things are done in NY ....

Siwsan

(26,239 posts)
4. One would think he has more important things to do, right now, than vent his spleen on Twitter
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:43 PM
Mar 2017

I might move up my predicted date for his implosion.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
6. Narcissists rarely feel fear. He's likely just PISSED
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

and trying to bully his way through all this fallout

Can't wait til his ego is so damaged he has to resign!

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
17. Tend to agree.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:51 PM
Mar 2017

Trump will amp up the whiling flying spaghetti monster of False Accusations and see if any one bits. This will continue until there is a Intervention and hopefully we have a Nation left to recoup.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
50. Look at the self demeaning participation
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:57 PM
Mar 2017

in reality TV. He may have had an audience,, but he must have been operating with little or no self awareness. No matter what an outside source has to say, no matter what evidence is presented, he doesn't question himself.
I think he's confident and ready to blame anyone he can.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
58. IOW, exactly the same as his benighted, deplorable throng of
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:06 PM
Mar 2017

delusional acolytes

absolutely stunning that so many rubes fell for this completely unlikable, transparently megalomaniacal
CONman

those idiots who flushed their money down the Trump U rathole are as stupid as his supporters, and got what they deserved. too bad the other 300 million of us are going down with the SS Twitler. and I mean SS

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
88. Yep
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:44 PM
Mar 2017

Despite his aversion to criticism, he has accepted some stage managing. I have wondered if he sees this as a similar situation. One where there is a stage and a script labeled reality.
It's all about the attention. The tweets, the extreme appointments and proposals. Even criticism feeds his ego because he is so sure of himself that he responds with some foolish tweet that he is probably very certain will be respected.
I think if I am correct, he would welcome impeachment as theater. Months of hearings and a long drawn out trial so that everyday the focus is on him. No matter how it ended, he would never believe he was wrong and would sit back and enjoy the attention and pleasure in being a significant and unforgotten president.

leftstreet

(36,097 posts)
61. Excellent point
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:08 PM
Mar 2017

They're always so confident, no matter what

Total self-absorption, but no self-awareness

Mme. Defarge

(8,004 posts)
81. Oh but they can and do
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:30 PM
Mar 2017

experience paranoia. And the reaction is to lash out and dissemble and blame ANYONE else.

manicraven

(901 posts)
96. Narcissists do fear at least one thing, though: rejection.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:12 PM
Mar 2017

They feed off of adulation and have created a false image of themselves, so when they're rejected, they are forced to confront their own emptiness and nothing scares them more than that.

Imagine trump being rejected by the majority of the country?

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
8. It's my first day off, and I can't stay away from the news!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

I keep running back to check to see if "the other shoe has dropped"!

I have NEVER loathed ANYBODY as much as I do these reptiles like Pussy-Grabber and Company. . .

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
102. LOL. I've got CNN on 24/7 and can't get anything done.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:27 PM
Mar 2017

Just decide to go ahead and have a cocktail! This is bad and the only good thing about it is that it's going to get a lot worse!

Can't wait for the tv coverage of the hearings to begin!

Cirque du So-What

(25,902 posts)
9. Uncertainty is our ally in this case
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:44 PM
Mar 2017

It keeps Cheeto Benito constantly off-balance, and he's brash enough to believe that he can bully his way out with bullshit & bushwa.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
12. Yup. It's good to keep him on the edge.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:46 PM
Mar 2017

He knows that people know things, but how much they know and what they intend to do with it is an unknown.

Cirque du So-What

(25,902 posts)
18. Given his character (or lack thereof)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:51 PM
Mar 2017

he could plausibly spill the beans unintentionally. He does love the sound of his own voice.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
144. He could pull a Nathan Jessup.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:25 AM
Mar 2017

"You goddamned right I ordered the collusion with the Russians, and I'd do it again if I had to!"

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
10. Obama was very smart to preserve the intelligence throughout several different agencies.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:45 PM
Mar 2017

A few people have assembled the pieces, I think. Listen to the comments of Rep. Schiff, Sen. Wyden, and Sen. Franken.

Schiff, in particular, has already formed a conclusion. He is seeking access to the evidence to prove it publicly. And, he has tacitly implied that if the FBI (Comey) doesn't cooperate, he will go to the media.

Trump is scared because he knows if he was wiretapped, they caught some incriminating things on HIM and not just his associates.

In my opinion, both Trump and Pence have to be impeached.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
11. for the first time in his life
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:45 PM
Mar 2017

his tactics aren't working. He's in over his head, and his none of his lies, distractions, swindles, threats, bullyings and rants are working to make it all better. He's got the GOP in his corner, for now--but we'll see how hot it gets for them before they bail. Pence has got to be looking good to them about now.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
14. Don't think so.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:47 PM
Mar 2017

He pooped, tweeted, pooped again. Then had a steak well done for breakfast (with ketchup), and headed out for golf with a fossil-fuel-foursome, leaving underlings with yet another mess to try to clean up.

His "mind" is cleansed, yet ready for new Breitbart "news" to refuel his adrenalin to tweet again to distract from other nettlesome events in the real world.

Perhaps a twinge of alarm, but he has always skated before - right? Oops, maybe at long last wrong.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
70. Is anyone afraid he'll try to harm himself?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

No way - that is not how he operates. I'm afraid of him harming us! It will never be his fault and SOMEBODY else will pay for his screw-ups. His MO is to double down on the nastiness. He is in full blown Narcissistic rage. How dare anyone hold him accountable!

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
74. No. He would never harm himself.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:21 PM
Mar 2017

He will only take it out on us. He loves himself to much to harm himself.

Hekate

(90,503 posts)
132. He would never harm himself. All his narcissistic rage is directed outward.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:31 PM
Mar 2017

Other people, though, better duck fast.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
19. And what of Putin? Right now, Trump has to be pretty
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:52 PM
Mar 2017

much cut off from his Russian connections. So, he doesn't actually know what Putin thinks of all this that's going on. That's very worrisome for The Donald, since he has relied on Putin and Putin's people to help him know what to do. Putin appears to have clammed up and is keeping his own council right now. I doubt there is any communication going on.

If I were The Donald, I'd be worried about whether his good friend, Vlad, is unhappy with him right now. When Putin isn't happy, he tends to do things people can't recover from. if I were the Donald, I wouldn't let anyone connected with Russia anywhere near just now.

Who can you trust Donald? In the end, just who can you trust? Ask yourself that.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,546 posts)
26. Looks like some karmic justice might come his way.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:11 PM
Mar 2017

SCROTUS has proved his untrustworthiness over and over, throughout his whole life. He breaks contracts, stiffs people he hires, makes promises he never intends to keep, sells snake oil by the barrel, cheats on his wives, defrauds, lies, cheats and steals. And now, quelle surprise, he finds he can't trust anybody. SAD.

erronis

(15,164 posts)
46. "Who can you trust, Donald?" That sounds like a great title for a very dark film
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:53 PM
Mar 2017

I'm already very afraid of the back-alley stabbings, the poisonings, the accidental falls out of very high penthouses.

While I don't like these types of movies, this is one I could enjoy watching -
as long as the country can stay whole.

A much scarier plot is dt/pooties bringing down everything at the same time.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
53. Russian news had a story telling people Putin did not want them to talk about trump
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:00 PM
Mar 2017

Anymore. Think he's upset his whole well laid plans have gone awry because he's been dealing with looney tunes. Wiley and gang wrecked the acme trap.

Wounded Bear

(58,574 posts)
20. I think that is his normal state...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

The feeling might be enhanced, so to speak, but that's the bully's biggest fear.....exposure. He can't stand that he might be exposed as weak or ineffective. He's heard all those comments about the Pres being the "most powerful man on earth" and believed them. Hopefully, our institutions are strong enough to hold him off.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
22. Something like that, yes.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:00 PM
Mar 2017

The consequences for breaking this particular vase, though, could be pretty major.

Squinch

(50,897 posts)
23. Well yes, but he isn't smart enough to have gone there yet though. He just knows he's in trouble
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:02 PM
Mar 2017

and thinks he can talk his way out of it because it's always worked that way before.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
30. I don't. Not saying the man cannot be scared, a bald eagle made him shit his pants.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:13 PM
Mar 2017

God I love our national mascot! No, I feel he cannot feel fear as a normal person can. Most sociopaths cannot, though again that is not to say they don't feel fear, just not in a rational way.

Maybe that is why he says and does some pretty far out there things.

oldtime dfl_er

(6,930 posts)
31. Also
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:15 PM
Mar 2017

He knows nothing of law, the Constitution, the powers and limitations of his position. He knows very little about anything except how to bully and insult. Expect more of that as he comes further unhinged.

procon

(15,805 posts)
33. He seems more like an angry temper tantrum than actual fear.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:15 PM
Mar 2017

He's pissed off that the press is stealing his thunder and sees them collaborating with his opponents to make him look bad. He lives in the moment, consumed with his need for petty revenge and retaliation for every perceived slight. Trump is a man of weak character, and its clear that he lacks any critical thinking skills that might have caused a more reasonable person to pause and reassess the efficacy of continually shooting himself in the foot.

C_U_L8R

(44,977 posts)
37. Trump is at a crossroads
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

either he seizes total power now or he's going to jail.
Looks like he's going to go for it.

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
77. He is not only terrified. He is beginning to get
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:25 PM
Mar 2017

desperate. If he gets desperate enough what will he do? That is really one of the many unknowns to be alarmed about. He apparently is capable of anything.

Texin

(2,588 posts)
114. He's surrounded himself with generals.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:50 PM
Mar 2017

Think about it. Does it seems conceivable that ALL of them will want to jump on board the tRump desperation train and do something to create an international crisis for this shitgibbon? ALL of them? I would think that's not likely, and if he tries to quickly gin up some sort of military escapade or false flag operation on speed dial, what are the odds that everyone one of the koolaid gang is going to be down with that? I'd look for a lot of these folks to start resigning and some of the remainders trying to stage a coup. tRump may be crazy and desperate enough to do something disastrous, but is everyone else surrounding him equally nuts enough to jump in?

Freethinker65

(9,995 posts)
38. Those really in power knew this would happen by allowing Trump to go untethered to Mar a Lago?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:31 PM
Mar 2017

They had to know the Breitbart alt-news about wire tapping would set him off. They want Trump unhinged more than usual.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
42. It seems like every few days a new revelation comes out that appears to be the end of trump
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:45 PM
Mar 2017

... then a few days later something else comes out that is a little bit worse and same thing happens again a few days later.

I wonder what's going to come out a few days from now?

This shit keeps getting worse and worse for him. Hopefully it'll drag out for a while and the republicans will become more and more entangled in trying to normalize the whole thing. When it all comes crashing down, hopefully it'll take all of their top players with it.

They certainly deserve it!

Botany

(70,429 posts)
52. Trump has cheated or stolen for almost everything in his life ..... now why would anybody think ....
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017

.... he wouldn't cheat in the run for POTUS?

StarryNite

(9,430 posts)
55. Nothing to lose
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:02 PM
Mar 2017

He could be feeling he's got nothing to lose and so will try anything to divert the attention off of him. People who feel they have nothing to lose can be very, very dangerous.

randr

(12,409 posts)
62. The very old "blame it on Obama" routine just doesn't have the same zing any more
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:09 PM
Mar 2017

does it mien twitler?

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
64. Season 5 of the Americans Premiers Tuesday and regardless of
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:11 PM
Mar 2017

the story line it will seem very realistic.

El Viejo

(26 posts)
65. Afraid is an understatement.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:11 PM
Mar 2017

He's petrified and acting guilty as sin.

In his prior life, he was "the boss" and his word was it. All his underlings had to go along with whatever hare-brained notion he dictated.

During his campaign, it was pretty much the same way; his word was law.

Now he's in the White House and he's finding out he's not nearly as smart or powerful as he thought he was.

It's all very entertaining.

ClusterFreak

(3,112 posts)
67. You expressed exactly how I feel myself.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:13 PM
Mar 2017

Something big, very big - quite likely something which will end his Presidency - is coming.

But what, when, how, where.... we do not know.

Speaking purely philosophically... Why?

Ya we know that.

spooky3

(34,390 posts)
69. I disagree. That's the way a normal official in a functioning
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

democratic republic would react. But I think Trump is sure that the American public and much of the punditry will give him a pass no matter what he does. And sadly, he has plenty of reason to believe this.

kairos12

(12,841 posts)
71. Don't know why he is afraid. There could be a tape of him giving the nuclear codes to Putin and the
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

Reich Wing in Congress will just claim it's fake news and do nothing. Certainly, not before Cheeto signs their precious tax cuts.

Scruffy1

(3,252 posts)
72. someone is going to do a Freedom of information request Monday morning.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

He's so stupid he never even sought legal council before tweeting. Once you blow it the protection is done with. But perhaps he believes his minions will swallow the crap that it's an Obama plot and back him up when they try to put the handcuffs on him. He's been breaking laws his whole life with rich man protection, but never been in public office until now. But whatever, his presidency is finished for all practical purposes, which will not accomplish much unless McConnell and Ryan go down with him.

RKP5637

(67,081 posts)
95. He thinks he can still bully, lie and buy his way out of everything. There's a whole world out there
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:10 PM
Mar 2017

and most of them hate Trump.

Wibly

(613 posts)
73. Not helping
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

How is this post any different than the fake news and hyperbole Trump and Associates are constantly feeding us.
I want Trump gone as much as anyone, but using hyperbole, innuendo and smear is not going to achieve it.
Get back to us when you have hard evidence.
All this accusatory nonsense is doing is making Dems look just as bad as Repubs.

Demsrule86

(68,453 posts)
78. No it is not actually...sort of an odd post this...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:25 PM
Mar 2017

The Dems look just fine...oh and remember Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi....of course this is not just payback...this is an attempt to save our Republic from the orange nightmare...whom you seem to desire to protect.

WiffenPoof

(2,404 posts)
120. I posted something similar to this...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:17 PM
Mar 2017

...cautioning Dems to take it easy... Don't overpay your have,etc. My post was treated like I was some sort of Right Wing Nut. I was accused of being a troll.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,809 posts)
83. I will politely but strongly disagree.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

I'm with those who say he's incapable of being afraid. He's a narcissist. The entire world revolves around them. No one else is fully human for them.

He's probably pissed that people aren't believing him about all this stuff (no one met with Russians, Obama tapped his phones) because he's like a very small child: if he says something, it's true. It's also important to keep in mind that pretty much his entire life no one has ever said no to him, so he's gotten away with everything. If he actually is someday marched off in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit that matches his hair, he still won't be afraid. He's be very, very angry, and will spew all sorts of vile nonsense about being framed and betrayed, but he won't be afraid.

His panic, if that's what he's experiencing, is because not everyone is kow-towing to him, especially those outside his small circle. He wants everything to go back to what it was on Election Night, when he became the next President, and believed that meant he could do anything and everything he wants, without fear of contradiction or pushback. But the pushbacks came pretty quickly, and the contradictions (calling out various lies) just as fast. What he probably wants is to punish those who stand in his way, and we see that quite clearly in various statements and tweets.

lambchopp59

(2,809 posts)
135. The analogy the DT reminds me of when he's in trouble:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:03 PM
Mar 2017

Three 8 year old kids giggling a bit too sarcastically one room away when the guardian says: "Kids, what are you doing?" followed by 2 seconds of sudden silence and reply from the kids in synchronous chorus: "nuh.....thing..."
Trump then commences a preadolecent level of obfuscation, albeit a bit craftier due to years of Fox News flummox-the-public training.

mobeau69

(11,131 posts)
89. This morning, the president of The United States accused the beloved
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 04:46 PM
Mar 2017

former President of The United States of a crime.

There is simply no way for them to spin this shit.

He fucked himself good this time.

joet67

(624 posts)
93. He has been since before the election. His whole personality and demeanor changed when he even
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:05 PM
Mar 2017

started the campaign. I have a feeling they were already closing in on him for undetermined reasons (like maybe taxes or who knows what) so he decided to run for office. That may have actually led to discovery of the Russian mafia connection or at least helped in some ways. He has known it all along. His behavior indicates he knows exactly what stage we are at now. This is going to be nothing short of delicious to watch unravel.

DFW

(54,267 posts)
97. I think he only fears embarrassment and ridicule
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:13 PM
Mar 2017

I'd be surprised to hear he feared anything else. It doesn't seem to be in his emotional make up.

He seems to think lawyers and accountants will shield him from accusations of wrongdoing and bankruptcy. He probably thinks Fox Noise, his "business acumen (i.e. refusal to meet financial obligations)" and his bodyguards will protect him from all else.

If he loses Paul Ryan and Mitch McTurtle, he's got a big problem. If he keeps them, then he probably doesn't. I'm sure Bannon has pointed this out to him by now.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
104. And Trump probably thought he had conned everyone.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

But as Lincoln said, you cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

democrank

(11,082 posts)
105. I'm not convinced Trump is afraid.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

Trump is used to calling the shots and getting his own way. He never has to face consequences and never has to answer to anyone....for anything. He buys his way out, bullies his way out, lies his way out, and there is always someone else to blame. He faces nothing. He takes responsibility for nothing negative and everything positive.

He makes people sign loyalty oaths, and expects adoration and conformity from those around him.

Think about how low he's willing to go if anyone challenges him. He'll mock a disabled reporter, demean a Gold Star family, use a Navy Seal's widow for his own benefit, disparage entire groups of people, lie every hour of every day. His goal is to always be #1. Always. And, he keeps people around him that he can count on to make that happen.

I don't think Trump is smart enough to be afraid. At least for now, he probably figures he's too important to have to answer to anyone or any institution....as long as he continues to call the shots.

Silly man. Sad.

salin

(48,955 posts)
106. I read he was raging about Sessions recusing himself
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:31 PM
Mar 2017

I think this is him continuing that rage. There are reports that the Brietbart article was floated around the White House on Friday - guessing he saw it - and was going after the "strike back" on behalf of Sessions since Sessions didn't do it himself.

I don't think he has the wits or instincts to know that he should be afraid.

Texin

(2,588 posts)
119. He's furious because Sessions was going to be his ace in the hole within the Justice Dept.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:12 PM
Mar 2017

Now he not only doesn't have cover, he probably doesn't have a reliable source for internal information about just what the Feds have on him and his lot.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
117. I think one of these trips to mar-a-lago he will try to leave the country...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:04 PM
Mar 2017

I could see him hopping on a boat to the carribean and hiding out there like the coward he always was.

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
118. I don't think he's in a panic
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:09 PM
Mar 2017

Trump thinks he's smarter than everyone, he's still thinking he can bully his way out of this. He's going to throw everyone under the bus before he goes down, when Ivanka is the only one left, then he'll panic. This is not going to be quick.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
124. He SHOULD be worried. The pieces are moving and I dont think
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

He is going to like what is coming. Sessions just got removed. He can't hide behind sessions now. It looks like a straight shot.

...we shall see....

Initech

(100,024 posts)
136. Well, considering he doesn't give a rat's ass about health...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:17 PM
Mar 2017

He belongs to the radical fringe part of the party that believes "miracle cures" are a thing, it's only inevitable before *it* happens.

kimbutgar

(21,030 posts)
137. I hope his melt/crackdown is epic and will break the spell he has over his supporters.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:42 PM
Mar 2017

So much it will be bigger than OJ. He will be the asterisk* president.

Swagman

(1,934 posts)
138. I had one of my psychic feelings that are usally 100%
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:47 PM
Mar 2017

right..that when I saw that Melania and her son were staying in New York for awhile...that she would never move into the White House.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
143. Why, because he's saying crazy shit?
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:49 AM
Mar 2017

I'm sure he's been doing that since he could speak.

This is just another distraction from what he really wants to do. He's been masterful at getting the media to cover his wild-ass spoutings rather than what's really going on.

He has lived his whole life as a paranoid person. I really don't see anything different right now.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
146. We all need to watch him closely
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 01:42 AM
Mar 2017

He's a cornered animal. He's like a bear at a bear baiting flailing and desperately striking out. Some people will get hurt. I only hope it's those who supported him and pretended he's a normal president, and not the innocent.

He is descending into madness, and that's not hyperbole; I really believe he's certifiable.

Fla Dem

(23,556 posts)
159. But if we have a traitorous congress, nothing, I repeat nothing will come of it.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017

Unless there is undeniable proof of Trump actually committing a crime, the republican congress will not take action against him. The Dems can stamp their feet all they want but with all the power with repubs, nothing will happen. I expect nothing, so then I won't be disappointed.

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