Can we talk about Comey's role for a moment please?

[Motown_Johnny]

We all remember Comey interjecting HRC's email investigation back into the news cycle right before the election. Even without the current context it was an extreme event.

Now we know that Flynn's conversations with the Russian Ambassador were tapped. This would have required a FISA warrant and therefore an ongoing investigation.

So, how the fuck do we explain Comey deciding to talk emails again 10 days before the election when Trump's people (or at least one of his people) was/were part of an ongoing investigation involving Russia and a cyber attack on this nation including an attempt at election tampering?



On a side note, if Pres. Obama knew about this how does he allow Comey to keep his job?


I'm perplexed.


I think the head of the FBI needs to be investigated too and that makes me think I might be getting paranoid.

[Squinch]

1. Obama's actions make more sense when we remember that there seemed to be no question

that Hillary would win.

Comey only makes sense if he's in someone's bag.

[StevieM]

16. I think that there was immediately some doubt that HRC would win once Comey's FBI intervention

happened. I remember being immediately scared. Bill Maher talked about Anthony Weiner getting the world blown up. The media called it "the ultimate October Surprise."

And indeed it was. It dramatically reshaped the race. Without Comey's illegitimate actions HRC would have won the election decisively, even assuming that the race had narrowed.

[Squinch]

17. I agree with that. No question she would have won.

[DURHAM D]

2. When Obama writes his book he will probably

indicate that making Comey his FBI director was a BIG mistake.

[msanthrope]

5. Jury still out on that one. nt

[cornball 24]

3. If you're paranoid, I'm right there with you! It's elementary that Comey has played

a major part in deflecting from the obvious. He bobs and weaves employing the old zipped lip FBI B.S. to his advantage.

[msanthrope]

4. Why would surveillance of a Russian operative require a warrant? nt

[Motown_Johnny]

6. If an American is involved it requires a warrant and Flynn is American.

Per Dr. Maddow:

At about 13 minutes into her A block last night she says that if an American gets on the phone then the security agency listening has to hang up (paraphrased). It would take a warrant to listen to an American and because we have transcripts of Flynn's conversations we know there must have been a warrant to listen to Flynn.



http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

[LisaL]

7. Security agency has to hang up-does it mean they will?I don't think they always do what they have to

Remember, this hasn't gone to court. Court might have ruled it inadmissible.

[msanthrope]

11. Um.......not true.

First of all, that would be presuming there is a live listener. Further, it presumes that the listener knows an American citizen is on the line.

Also.....just because a recording is illegally obtained, it doesn't mean it can't be used. Let's say Flynn is illegally recorded. Doesn't mean the recording can't be used against DT.

[Motown_Johnny]

12. So Dr. Maddow is wrong?

The video is at the link I posted. It starts at about 13 minutes in.

Can you please provide some support for your assertion?

[msanthrope]

14. I have a juris doctorate. Ms. Maddow has a doctorate in philosophy. Let me know which one you

want to walk into court with.

If there are wiretaps, even illegally obtained, what makes you think they are not use able in a criminal prosecution?

[Motown_Johnny]

15. If illegally obtained information can be used in court, why bother obtaining information legally?

What then is the use of the FISA court or a warrant?

I admit I know nothing about this, I am going on what was reported by someone I trust.

Even so, we are off the central question in my OP.


So, how the fuck do we explain Comey deciding to talk emails again 10 days before the election when Trump's people (or at least one of his people) was/were part of an ongoing investigation involving Russia and a cyber attack on this nation including an attempt at election tampering?


Even if the information was illegally obtained (which is pure speculation) how do we explain Comey prioritizing the email scandal above this information to such an extent that he interjects it back into the news cycle so close to the election?

[msanthrope]

18. Well.....it depends. There are specific rules governing what may and may not be used

in court. But we aren't anywhere near a court. Point is, if there are wiretaps, anything goes......Nixon didn't resign because they had guilt beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

It's entirely possible that Chaffetz tipped Comey's hand.....and Comey completely fucked up the response. My thought is that the jury is still out on Comey. I don't trust him, but I haven't condemned him, yet.

[Motown_Johnny]

19. I just don't see any reasonable way to investigate the head of the FBI.

Just exactly who would be able to do that, both legally and logistically?


I haven't condemned him yet either, if I had it would be in the OP. I really am having trouble wrapping my head around the choices he made though.

[msanthrope]

20. We don't know the true shape and size of this yet.

But remember......the wheels of Justice grind slowly.....but exceedingly fine.

[Hortensis]

8. I am hoping this giant trumpster fire will take

down Comey also. He abused his power and betrayed our nation, doing horrendous damage.

[Motown_Johnny]

10. But how do you investigate the head of the FBI?

I hope a 9-11 style investigation can do it, but I am not sure.

[ananda]

9. As far as I know..

Comey's only role has been to protect Reeps and hurt Dems,
and still is.

[brush]

13. You're not paranoid. Sessions and Comey are the top cops and we can't trust either one.

There are some here who think Comey is a "white hat" doing a thorough investigation of trump/Putin who therefore had no choice but to report the "allegedly new Hillary emails" found on 28 Oct. before rouge agents did which would disrupt his investigation to save the country so he therefore had to tilt the election to trump.

Nah! Comey, IMO, is in it up to his neck too.

The Department of Justice no longer functioning as it's supposed to.

trump invited Sessions to Mar-a-lago this weekend to get their stories straight.

He'll come out with the new travel ban on Monday to take the spotlight off the Russian stories in the Media, just as he tried to do with this "Obama wiretapped me" bs.