General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWE DEMOCRATS HOPE THERE WERE WIRE TAPS
I know that I shouldn't yell, but I've been trying to explain something on here ALL DAY LONG.
We Dems hope like the hell there are wire taps on Trumps phone. Because that means the FBI Investigation ALREADY HAS SHIT ON TRUMP. (Or there wouldn't be a wiretap tap. Get it?)
OK. So far so good.
In his tweets Donald shows he has no idea how wire taps work. (Presidents aren't allowed to order wire taps on anybody, foreign or domestic. Only banana Republics, like Russia let their Presidents do that)
Stay with me.
So when you see a Senior Official Somebody today say that there are absolutely no wiretaps on Donald's phone. What they are saying is that OBAMA didn't order any. BECAUSE HE AIN'T ALLOWED. Any anyone who thinks POTUS can order wire taps, like Donald, is a complete Dumbass. AND DESERVES TO BE MADE FUN.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE FBI DIDN'T HAVE A TAP ON HIS PHONE. If they did or didn't WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE INVESTIGATION IS OVER. WHICH IT'S NOT YET.
I think somebody finally told Trump that there's a damn good chance he's been wiretapped in the FBI Investigation over Russian election hacking. And he unwittingly, because he dumber than dog shit, just alerted the whole world of that fact. Only, because he's dumber than dog shit, he blamed Obama. BECAUSE HE HAS NO IDEA HOW WIRETAPS WORK.
Am I making any sense. I keep trying to point this out. But maybe I'm not saying it right.
Somebody help me.
Please.
TubbersUK
(1,439 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,631 posts)We're with you.
anglesphere
(63 posts)I ask because couldn't Trump squirm out of this by claiming Obama had the wire tap conducted outside of government agencies?
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Maybe somebody smarter than me can imbed this morning's tweet storm.
Hint hint.
NewRedDawn
(790 posts)Tap "tapp" What a joke.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)...but, it makes him more "human" to his ignorant followers.
slumcamper
(1,606 posts)BTW, I just ordered a Russian flag from eBay, a gift for my neighbor--a self-proclaimed "proud American veteran" (Desert Storm/USN/back injury)--whose yard recently bore the signs "DEPLORABLES FOR TRUMP" and "Hillary for Prison 2016."
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Clearly. He doesn't know that US Presidents don't order wire taps.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)I'm wondering about Trump's claim that this is McCarthyism.
Did McCarthy order wiretaps?
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)He has no idea if McCarthy ordered wire taps.
But typing MCCARTHYISM on his tweet made him think it made Obama look even worse.
Because at heart, Donald Trump is dumber than dog shit.
I think it's very important to remember this fact.
wishstar
(5,268 posts)Apparently it is a federal violation to give out this information during course of investigation
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)I mean I'm a simple man and even I know that it wouldn't make much sense to publicize a wire tap.
Now would it.
I guess I thought that was common knowledge.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)And it is funny. It's my favorite part. A real Hoot.
Donald Trump told on himself in this morning's tweetstorm, but because he's dumber than dog shit, HE DIDN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT HE WAS TELLING ON HIMSELF.
That's the kicker to the whole deal.
I read his twitter rant and was like WTF? He's either absolutely paranoid and making shit up or he's telling us he's being investigated directly by the Feds.
That's it.
Thank you
I been thinking this same thing since 7 am. I've been trying to explain it on here. But I must not have been doing it right.
So thanks a bunch.
Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)Confusion. It is all about giving his supporters a sort of "reasonable out".
Remember, they want to believe.
All Trump has to do is give them an excuse.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)TNLib
(1,819 posts)If the Feds tapped him they have probable cause.
I say it's an historic day.
A beautiful, wonderful, lovely day.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)The Trump wiretap story is more important than you realize
By Keith Pickering
Saturday Mar 04, 2017 · 11:05 AM EST
As you now know, our Fearless Leaders brief flirtation with Acting Presidential (shes a prude) crashed and burned when he got out of bed this morning with Tweets (shes more of the slutty girl he prefers).
So Trump has accused Barack Obama (personally!) of tapping his phones during the campaign:
But heres the thing: not even the President of the United States can do that. You need a court order to tap phones.
If Trumps phone was tapped (and Im quite sure it was, because Trump said so, and he never lies), then there must have been a court order. And that court order must have been based on a reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing. And it happened in October.
So, what reasonable suspicion of wrongdoing might have been raised in October, regarding Trump? You guessed it: Russian hacking of the election. Which in turn implies that the warrant was issued by the super-secret FISA court (well-known to almost never refuse a warrant request.)
And that means that the either the FBI, or the CIA, or the NSA, knows a lot about what was really going on.
And Trump knows they know, because this morning, he was briefed.
And hoo-boy. The Trumpster is running scared.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,451 posts)He's a traitor and now they are just as guilty.
byronius
(7,393 posts)Really.
I love this place.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Lotusflower70
(3,077 posts)I also think it falls under libel as well. I remember him spouting off about libel during the campaign. He said he was going to "open up the libel laws." I wonder if he still feels the same way?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Make tRump pay for his small stupidity in accusing Obama by using his accusation to trigger a much larger investigation into the Russian scandal.
Hey Republicons, the Minority President made a serious allegation against your common foe. Investigate the whole ball of wax.
Of course, Obama did not order wiretaps or see/hear the results. Officials in the Justice Department are empowered to do that and it seems that they did.
lindysalsagal
(20,670 posts)You put a toddler in the white house, he knocks over all the plants, eats all the candy, leaves the water running, and poos on the carpets......
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)I bet they know that Trump and Co. were in constant contact with their Russian friends.
I bet they know about the hack of the DNC. I bet they know a lot about how this election was stolen, too.
I bet Donald fashioned himself quite the dealmaker in this case. All he had to do was chill the GOP platform on sanctions on Russia. That was easy.
I bet the FBI knows that as well. Plus, JD Gordon and Carter Page have just pointed their finger at Donald Trump for being the driving force behind the platform change right before the Republican Convention. Sessions was the go-between with the Russian Ambassador.
Game, set, match.