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tomp

(9,512 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:03 AM Mar 2017

Why are Michelle Obama, and others, embracing/promoting W?

Let me attempt an answer to my own question.

I suppose that since W has been speaking out against Trump to some extent, it might be seen that he could provide cover for some repubs to take more aggressive steps against Trump.

If so, there has to be a better way. W is a war criminal, and another stupid man and stooge for the rich, who managed to attain the presidency through corrupt politics. He is one of the precursors to Trump, lowering the bar for entry to the office.

Shame on anyone who promotes him as a reasonable person and worthy of anything other than jail.

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Why are Michelle Obama, and others, embracing/promoting W? (Original Post) tomp Mar 2017 OP
So because Shrub is on a book tour BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #1
Sorry, I don't know anything about his book. tomp Mar 2017 #9
That picture of the 2 of them was from the opening of the BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #13
interesting fact about the photo. tomp Mar 2017 #17
Did you actually go look it up? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #21
'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'? Siwsan Mar 2017 #2
when it comes to ousting the traitors, it's all hands on deck. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #4
I think that that Barack and Michelle have grown to have genuine respect for him. nycbos Mar 2017 #3
YEP. n/t janx Mar 2017 #11
Making peace. The Bush family largely supported the Clintons in the 2016 election. democratisphere Mar 2017 #5
Maybe not anytime... Tom Rinaldo Mar 2017 #6
Bush isn't the most important enemy now. sellitman Mar 2017 #7
Spot on. dalton99a Mar 2017 #8
so, i've read the responses so far... tomp Mar 2017 #10
If there's a better way ornotna Mar 2017 #15
the "better way" is relentless mass demonstrations. tomp Mar 2017 #20
Um WTF? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #18
end of discussion. tomp Mar 2017 #19
Bzzzt sorry wrong answer. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #23
Nothing will happen to Trump until the Republicans turn against him. meadowlander Mar 2017 #12
if it's a compromise with republicans you suggest.... tomp Mar 2017 #14
Because Michelle, unlike some people, is smart enough to realize pnwmom Mar 2017 #16
Its too late to do anything about his crimes. milestogo Mar 2017 #22

BumRushDaShow

(128,803 posts)
1. So because Shrub is on a book tour
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:13 AM
Mar 2017

and apparently mentioned this in his book, which many news media (including the popular type) are now reporting, you are going beyond the words and believe that there is really some special "relationship" between Michelle and him?

You believe Shrub?

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
9. Sorry, I don't know anything about his book.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:04 PM
Mar 2017

All I know is a photo of Mrs. Obama beaming while embracing him. Clearly, appearing genuine, and clearly not necessary.

BumRushDaShow

(128,803 posts)
13. That picture of the 2 of them was from the opening of the
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

National Museum of African American History and Culture. I remember watching a stream of that event. The approval of it happened under Shrub and it was opened under Obama.

The sentiment that you posted about has been reported by various sources over the past couple days however they all referenced it as something that apparently came out of his book...

IMHO, as evil as the BFEE has been, Darth Cheney was the root of the evil.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
17. interesting fact about the photo.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:17 PM
Mar 2017

still, enough evil to go around for both bush and cheney. there is a decided lack of principle among politicians of both parties.

BumRushDaShow

(128,803 posts)
21. Did you actually go look it up?
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:23 PM
Mar 2017

And anyone who goes into politics and remains in it for some time, have a certain constitution about them. It is often rough and tumble and ugly, but can be educational and rewarding when the result of the engagement is beneficial to the constituents. Those who understand that yet are able to carry out the job with grace, are pretty amazing.

It doesn't matter "what party". That's silly. It's the nature of what politicians do - basically negotiation with other politicians. How they do that is what is often controversial.

Siwsan

(26,259 posts)
2. 'The enemy of my enemy is my friend'?
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:17 AM
Mar 2017

Not to mention that I expect this might really get under trump*'s skin.

And let's face it - W is a gormless twit and a tool for who ever has a use for him. His, for the most part, disappearance from the public eye makes me think that he was put on the shelf, until they could find another use for him. If W can now be used to push back against trump*, I say go for it.

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
3. I think that that Barack and Michelle have grown to have genuine respect for him.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:19 AM
Mar 2017

They know know how stressful it is to be in the white house. Presidents of different parties often become friends after they both leave office for that reason.


George H.W. Bush and Clinton became friends. I would not be surprised if George W. Bush and Barack Obama became friends.


I am not going to judge President Obama or her.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
5. Making peace. The Bush family largely supported the Clintons in the 2016 election.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:23 AM
Mar 2017

Our democracy is under attack by a propaganda spewing, fake news reporting so-called illegitimate president. Anytime a former republiCON presidential family supports a Democratic presidential family, it's a really good day.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
6. Maybe not anytime...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mar 2017

...but in a time like this one when the fabric of our Republic is being torn at, perhaps so.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
7. Bush isn't the most important enemy now.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:45 AM
Mar 2017

He still is a war criminal but there's worse in the white house today. Cheeto face is a traitor and so are the Senators and congressmen in Washington who are protecting him.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
10. so, i've read the responses so far...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:08 PM
Mar 2017

...and don't buy any of it.

as i said in the op, there has to be a better way to bring down trump.

it is also no surprise to me that the obama's and the clintons are cozy with the bush's now. tells one a lot about all of them.

ornotna

(10,798 posts)
15. If there's a better way
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:15 PM
Mar 2017

Why don't you post about that instead of this story trying to drive a wedge. This story has nothing to do with bringing Trump down.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
20. the "better way" is relentless mass demonstrations.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:21 PM
Mar 2017

rehabilitating war criminals is not the way.

BumRushDaShow

(128,803 posts)
18. Um WTF?
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:17 PM
Mar 2017

Just because you have GOP lunatics like Drumpf who have no manners and make a living out of disrespecting anyone they come in contact with, doesn't mean that is normal societal behavior. It is abnormal and should not be generalized as a "norm" or "expectation".

You are suggesting that former Presidents are supposed to act like junior-high school kids and nyah nyah huff and puff and throw spitballs when around other former Presidents?

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
12. Nothing will happen to Trump until the Republicans turn against him.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:10 PM
Mar 2017

And more or less all of the Republicans still around are bathed in blood from 9/11, Katrina, the Global Financial Crisis, eight years of obstructing Obama...

Yes GWB is a war criminal and so are his enablers in Congress like John McCain who refused to speak out against torture and Gitmo.

But the fact is that we're in an unprecedented political crisis that will only be resolved by making at least a temporary peace with Republicans who are willing to speak out against Trump.

Let's get him out of office and then worry about sticking the boot back in.

 

tomp

(9,512 posts)
14. if it's a compromise with republicans you suggest....
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:14 PM
Mar 2017

...how about actual patriotic republicans (I know, an exceedingly small group) temporarily switch parties to give some balance to congress until we get ourselves out of this mess.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
16. Because Michelle, unlike some people, is smart enough to realize
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 02:17 PM
Mar 2017

that W. is no longer a threat to any of us, and DT is a monumental threat to the whole country.

And the more we can draw people like W. and his followers to the side of saving our Democracy, the better.

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