Just now on MSNBC

[randr]

Trump libeled Obama.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. Obama can sue, wont. Too much class.

This is actionable even as he is a public figure.

[Chemisse]

2. Trump has said horrible and untrue things about everybody he knows.

What makes this libelous (or slanderous if spoken)? Did they say?

[Gabi Hayes]

3. accused him of a crime, I think

[Cary]

10. Correct. That is per se defamation

Also have to show malice, and that's not so easy.

[Gabi Hayes]

11. certainly no aforethought. that doesn't exist for him

that said, may he never have a moment's peace

[Ms. Toad]

20. You're thinking about the mens rea for murder.

Malice, in defamation, essentially means he knew it was false and published it anyway.

Which also is a problem because his ability to distinguish between true and false is not necessarily easily established.

[Amaryllis]

28. not necessarily easily established; think you mean non-existant!

[Ms. Toad]

41. I was being generous.

[Amaryllis]

42. That was kind of you. :)

[Chemisse]

13. Thank-you. That makes sense.

[madinmaryland]

4. POTUS will not get involved in tRump's shitstorms.

[bdamomma]

5. he is distracting

from the true story how he is involved with Putin. What total BS this jerk continues to throw out to American's.

[madokie]

8. As Prez Obama said to rMoney, please proceed governor

He's a cool cat, smart as a whip and looks at the big picture. Awesome dude our President Obama

President Obama will always be President to me.

[mnmoderatedem]

15. thanks for reminding us of that drop the mic moment.

that was soooo sweet.

IIRC the right wing was attacking the media over that moment, as not sitting back and let a false statement pass constitutes liberal bias...

[triron]

7. So?? Trump will get away with it.

[madokie]

9. Not a chance

he'll burn over all this.
The day is coming when he'll rue the day he decided to take on President Obama as well as decide to run for the pResidency

dRumpF will never be president in my eyes, never

[triron]

12. Hope you're right but I've become pessimistic.

[madokie]

16. Not me

Its just now getting fun

[GWC58]

30. Two word I never use together;

President & Trump!

[moonscape]

38. I can't even type his name. I call him T or 45, mostly

T because I can't accept that he's 45.

[HipChick]

14. He should sue him...Trump always backs down when challenged..

he's just a blabbermouth...a coward...

[Gabi Hayes]

17. he should sue that prick mark levin

put him and his radio station out of business the way trump's buddy did to gawker

[dawg]

33. This!

These pricks need to be taught that they cannot lie with impunity. And ruining a few of them financially would throw cold-water on the whole "fake-news" industry.

[Gothmog]

18. MSNBC did a good job on this issue

Obama could sue trump

[Saboburns]

19. I been saying this same thing for two days on here

But peope told me I was wrong. I've started numerous threads about, wishing somebody would shout it out loud on TeeVee. "Donald Trump lied and committed Libel".

But no I kept getting shot down.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028749577

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028749253

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028747806

I been trying brother. Even with the push back.

[Motownman78]

37. no one in the media reads DU n/t

[Saboburns]

39. You got a voice don't you?

A keyboard?

I could use a little help here.

[Bengus81]

21. Trump would love a lawsuit...don't fall for the bait Obama...

He'd LOVE yet ANOTHER distraction of a Libel suit. I wouldn't do a damn thing and let Trump keep getting hammered by the press and stewing because Obama won't pick a fight.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

22. Another empty content-free OP click-bait.

tRump is always libeling Obama.

If the Original Post is going to have content it would say what the libel consisted of and what was the context. Was it an interview, a live press conference, a phone in, a file clip from October, ... What? Nothing.

[Saboburns]

23. We don't expect Obama to actually sue.

We don't Obama to say a word about it.

Just our talking heads and then echoed by our Politicians.

The narrative to this whole sordid episode should be written by us and should be "Donald Trump lied, and essentially Libelled Barack Obama".

Is that not easily achievable with a little team work??

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

24. Do you mean slandered?

Libel is written, slandered is verbal. Journalism school dropout Can't help myself!

[bravenak]

31. He typed it out on twitter. Does that count?

[obamanut2012]

34. yes, it does

[bravenak]

35. Thank you

[Dyedinthewoolliberal]

36. I suppose it does

I keep forgetting Twitter has replaced talking for many people.....

[bravenak]

40. Lol, yep

[Saboburns]

32. It's a tweet

Aren't tweets written?

What am I missing here?

[jalan48]

25. Trump desperately wants to make this about Obama and change the issue from Russia and Trump.

Obama spent eight years as President and knows exactly how the government works, which apparently Trump does not. Obama will say little and allow the wheels of the IC and and an independent prosecutor to grind President Cheeto into dust.

[RKP5637]

26. Obama, will not lower himself into the cesspool Trump lives in. n/t

[CCExile]

27. A duel.

The best answer in this case.

[Cha]

29. msnbc said that?

[randr]

43. During the 3pm news cast

Did not get the name of the legal scholar but he laid it out very plain and clear. Obama could sue Trump and likely win.
Not sure if they archive the shows but it must be somewhere.

[Cha]

44. That's ok I trust your report from tv land.. just wanted to

be clear. thank you, randr!