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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 06:58 PM Mar 2017

Michael Moore on facebook about the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Trump

Did Obama "tapp" Trump? Let's Hope So.

If you're like me, you have no love for the FBI, the NSA or the CIA. If you are from my generation, you know these are very often nefarious institutions. The FBI spied on Martin Luther King to stop his civil rights activities. The NSA was ordered to make up stuff on Iraq so Bush could start a war. The CIA has had leaders of countries assassinated and democratically-elected Presidents (Iran, Chile, Guatemala) overthrown. These secret organizations have for decades committed so many acts in our name that have done much damage to good people and movements here and around the world. They spied on everyday average Americans whose crime was to simply attend a protest. Like you. And me. (To this day, I have yet to ask for the file they kept on me in the past. It was shown to me once, at NBC -- provided to them by General Motors in an attempt by the company to keep me off my first-ever appearance on the Tonight Show in 1990. Yes, a crazy story to be sure, and one I will write more about some other time because right now we have graver matters to address.)

Trump's insane flurry of tweets at 6:30 in the morning yesterday may not have been so insane at all. Under President Obama, these intelligence agencies were fortunately somewhat reined in. I say "somewhat" because clearly FBI director James Comey was allowed to go rogue against Hillary Clinton.

But if the Obama administration had evidence that the Trump campaign "was in constant contact with Russian officials and well-known Russian spies," and there was already proof that the Russians had hacked into our electoral process, then it not only is possible that the Justice Department or the national security apparatus decided to get a warrant to dig deeper, I think most patriotic Americans would agree with me that the Obama administration HAD AN OBLIGATION to order that wiretap because an act of treason -- Trump campaign people colluding with Russia to affect the outcome of our election -- had taken place.

If any wiretap was ever justified -- and I would say that they RARELY are -- this would be the one time we should HOPE our government was looking out for us and protecting us.

Sneaking the Russian ambassador in thru the basement of Trump Tower -- Trump's personal home -- secretly bringing him up to the top floors, and later telling us that Trump "never met the ambassador" while the Russian was inside his own home(!), would be enough for me to want to investigate further. Much further.

Trump thought yesterday he would try to get in front of the Russian scandal by claiming HE was the "victim" of President Obama. A smart move by a clever man. Make it seem that the wiretap is the crime -- instead of the ACTUAL crime that the wiretapping was going to expose -- namely, the illegal collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence officials.

Trump knows the hounds are close and on his trail, and this Hail Mary move of his may seem crazy, but like all the other Trump crazy that got him into the White House -- yes, it's crazy.

Crazy like a fox.



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Michael Moore on facebook about the FBI, NSA, CIA, and Trump (Original Post) MelissaB Mar 2017 OP
No republican should be anywhere near the WH, anything less than that means Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
I love Michael Moore DK504 Mar 2017 #2
I agree! MelissaB Mar 2017 #3
The President knew, the FBI knew, hell every country in Europe knew, but no one said a thing. MelissaB Mar 2017 #4
Absolutely right. Horrible breach of duty. JudyM Mar 2017 #5

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. No republican should be anywhere near the WH, anything less than that means
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 07:03 PM
Mar 2017

very little to me.



How many more times do they get to steal a presidential election?

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. I love Michael Moore
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 07:13 PM
Mar 2017

But if the Obama administration had evidence that the Trump campaign "was in constant contact with Russian officials and well-known Russian spies," and there was already proof that the Russians had hacked into our electoral process,... I think most patriotic Americans would agree with me that the Obama administration HAD AN OBLIGATION.

The problem I have is the entire leadership knew we had been hacked, we had serious connections to Russia and they did nothing. The President knew, the FBI knew, hell every country in Europe knew, but no one said a thing. We have a serious problem in this country and we need to get all of them out that don't handle our business.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
4. The President knew, the FBI knew, hell every country in Europe knew, but no one said a thing.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 07:42 PM
Mar 2017

THIS is a HUGE problem!

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