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20 Committe/Schindler Tweeted there's credible evidence WH is targeting journalists w Russian help! (Original Post) bettyellen Mar 2017 OP
Think he is right Frogg Mar 2017 #1
it is, the journalists, the teachers and the military are the 3 things they will take over first. sunonmars Mar 2017 #14
Schindler and Mensch are tight...I saw this a bit ago and just - dropped through the floor Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #2
But is this Jarod's paper? What the hell/ they've been publishing anti-Trump stuff? bettyellen Mar 2017 #3
I honestly don't know about Jarod's paper? - just know that he and Mensch are buds, and both Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #7
Oops, spelled Jared wrong. Kushner - Ivanka's husband. Supposedly he's not running it , but still... bettyellen Mar 2017 #9
OH, okay! - I just checked John's blurb on his account, I see now, he writes for the Observer - Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #10
Mensch was under some sort of internet atack over the weekend sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #6
Yes, more than one of my go-tos (Louise and maybe John as well, or the Jester guy) said that the Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #8
Google "man in the middle cyberattack" sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #16
Many thanks for info!! eom Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #23
Devin Nunes threatened as much, and Omarosa tried to intimidate Tanuki Mar 2017 #4
Why the hell not? They do it in Russia.. why would the Cha Mar 2017 #5
It wouldnt surprise me and it could explain all the trips to Mar-a-Lago Trump has taken cstanleytech Mar 2017 #11
Ding ding ding! We have a winner! colorado_ufo Mar 2017 #12
Hes NamesDave Mar 2017 #13
Doesn't Malcolm Nance think Schindler is full of it? butdiduvote Mar 2017 #15
The rignt wing National Review claims this Schindler guy is a conservative who went after Hillary m-lekktor Mar 2017 #17
Oh, he is. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #19
He's another Glenn Greenwald SecularMotion Mar 2017 #21
Targeting with what?? lostnfound Mar 2017 #18
I've read a couple of blurbs about Russian hackers targeting liberal entities in the U.S. Vinca Mar 2017 #20
Well, they've pretty much all fallen line. ananda Mar 2017 #22
If this is true, I would support a military coup against Trump... First Speaker Mar 2017 #24
Season for treason ck4829 Mar 2017 #25
Just remember that it is not the Russian people ymetca Mar 2017 #26
Trump is going to get a lot of people killed. Initech Mar 2017 #27

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
14. it is, the journalists, the teachers and the military are the 3 things they will take over first.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:29 AM
Mar 2017

Putin did it, Erdogan did it.....

They have handed the playbook to Trump.....

Each one of those times, the sheeple sat back and said "they would never do that" until they woke up in a police state....

I watched it for years when I worked in Turkey......

it was all "this wont affect me", "they would never" "but what can we do"

It was distressing to watch.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
2. Schindler and Mensch are tight...I saw this a bit ago and just - dropped through the floor
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:27 AM
Mar 2017

just a little bit more -

Commenters asked, what do you mean, "targeting"? Like, hacking their emails, mucking with their lives?

And of course, I'm thinking, no, we're probably talking about cold blooded murder here, because if I ever was an "optimist", I sure as hell ain't now -

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
3. But is this Jarod's paper? What the hell/ they've been publishing anti-Trump stuff?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:31 AM
Mar 2017

Is THAT the disinformation campaign? It's a fucking mess, bno one knows who to trust anymore.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
7. I honestly don't know about Jarod's paper? - just know that he and Mensch are buds, and both
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:46 AM
Mar 2017

working away on our current nightmare - ? - so far, he's seemed perfectly credible me (tho, these are strange times, I know) - I trust him more than not, definitely -

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
10. OH, okay! - I just checked John's blurb on his account, I see now, he writes for the Observer -
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:06 AM
Mar 2017

now I what you're talking about!! (not familiar with it myself) - - I HAVE read people's comments on both his and Mensch's threads to the effect that "hey, I know you're a conservative, biut I don't care, please keep up the good work!"

Louise has said time and again how much she loves this country and has no problem putting politics aside while pursuing treasonous bastards, whoever they may be, and I don't think John's any kind of right-wing nutcase at all - conservative, perhaps, but not loony, and is "on the case", workin overtime!

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
6. Mensch was under some sort of internet atack over the weekend
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:38 AM
Mar 2017

Maybe she called it a middle-out attack? I forget the word, but she said it was confirmed.

Might be called a "man in the middle" attack. I found it online but can't past it in here for some reason.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. Yes, more than one of my go-tos (Louise and maybe John as well, or the Jester guy) said that the
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:53 AM
Mar 2017

"putinbots" were on a rampage this weekend - which I assume means they got a shit ton of bogus Russian tweets on their accounts?

And I think it was Saturday night, Mensch said she was gonog out for the evening and said something about "middle out", which sounded like a twitter attack or SOMEthing! In fact I googled that expression, but found nothing..

I do certainly worry about all our citizen sleuths, though, and pray all remain safe as they work their butts off trying to help save our beloved republic!

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
16. Google "man in the middle cyberattack"
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:56 AM
Mar 2017

It's like someone gets between you and everyone else and blocks your messages/data in a cyberattack. I found a great page explaining it, but can't copy/paste the address, lol.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
4. Devin Nunes threatened as much, and Omarosa tried to intimidate
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:32 AM
Mar 2017

April Ryan by telling her that she was one of several African American journalist on whom the Administration was compiling a dossier.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/03/02/gop-intelligence-chair-threatens-investigate-reporters-talk-russia-trump.html

Cha

(297,148 posts)
5. Why the hell not? They do it in Russia.. why would the
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:34 AM
Mar 2017

trumputin regime be any different?

Thank you, bettyellen.

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
11. It wouldnt surprise me and it could explain all the trips to Mar-a-Lago Trump has taken
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:12 AM
Mar 2017

as its hard to collude with a foreign governments intelligence service from the Whitehouse especially if you are a paranoid douchebag that thinks the whole place might be bugged.

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
12. Ding ding ding! We have a winner!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:21 AM
Mar 2017

Might discuss North Korean missiles at the dinner table but you can be assured he has a safe room where he meets and has his discussions with his team about "innermost events."

butdiduvote

(284 posts)
15. Doesn't Malcolm Nance think Schindler is full of it?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:53 AM
Mar 2017

For whatever that's worth. Nance seems credible and trusted by many mainstream news sources.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
17. The rignt wing National Review claims this Schindler guy is a conservative who went after Hillary
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:16 AM
Mar 2017

for her emails but claims to be non partisan otherwise. Google him if you are wondering who he is. This is an older piece I found interesting:

Lately, his commentary has been directed toward the seemingly never-ending scandal surrounding Hillary Clinton’s use of a private e-mail server during her tenure as secretary of state. “Clinton, Inc. thinks they can win a liar’s match and leakfest with the [intelligence community],” he wrote on Twitter last week. While Clinton’s camp may try to dissuade the public from concluding that its actions were criminal, Schindler says those with intelligence experience aren’t fooled. “Spooks know just what they’ve been up to . . . for years.”
Schindler has amassed a loyal following, particularly among conservatives, for his blunt missives on cyber-security, foreign policy, and intelligence. His experience as an NSA analyst has made him a unique player in debates over the NSA metadata program laid bare by Edward Snowden, the Chinese hacking of the Office of Personnel Management’s database, and the Clinton scandal known in the Twittersphere as “#EmailGate.” His contribution comes in translating intelligence- and security-speak — often an impenetrable argot — for the uninitiated.





http://www.nationalreview.com/article/423958/john-schindler-nsa-intelligence-analyst

Denzil_DC

(7,232 posts)
19. Oh, he is.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:54 AM
Mar 2017

Like Mensch, he's worth taking into account because of his contacts (and in his case, to a certain extent, because of his background, though it's not dissimilar to people like Larry Johnson, who I'd never believe about anything), but he can be a bit, erm, excitable.

There are a few issues where his "conservatism" shines through - he still believes the Obama administration got the IRS to target RW groups, for instance.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
20. I've read a couple of blurbs about Russian hackers targeting liberal entities in the U.S.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:57 AM
Mar 2017

and trying to extort money out of them. So anyone here have anything "extortable?" Pretty dim witted hackers if you ask me.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
24. If this is true, I would support a military coup against Trump...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:13 PM
Mar 2017

...I'm doing my best to avoid apocalyptic thinking, but fuck it. This is the last straw for me--*if* this is so. A "president" of the United States, cooperating with a foreign despot determined to crush democracy around the world--to discredit *American* journalists? If this isn't "treason", then it doesn't exist. We know the Congress won't do anything. The media is engaged in their usual power-prestige-masturbation games. The Dems still think we're in "normal" political waters--maybe some rapids, but still the same stream. We aren't. This has gone far enough. I've reached the point that I feel, if democracy is going to be saved, we need an intervention. Yes, this will put us on the road to a banana republic. But better that, than the certainty of a fascist dictatorship if nothing is done. Maybe, if we're lucky, it will be 1688, rather than Cromwell.

ymetca

(1,182 posts)
26. Just remember that it is not the Russian people
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:26 PM
Mar 2017

but a small cabal of global plutocrats who are running this sh*t show.

As soon as T-rump's utility is exhausted, he will be "dealt with".

The objective, as always, is to enrich themselves at the expense of the increasingly unruly global hoi polloi.

Next up: a totally unnecessary war...

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