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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:37 AM Mar 2017

Until UBI becomes an issue, the GOP will control the Congress. IMO, 2024 at the earliest

before we control one house of Congress.

If you think the current GOP Congress is going to save your health care think again.

They are just going to put it off until after the 2020 election between now and then they will change all the insurance laws, change the time for testing new drug, and extending the patent time on drugs.

Wake up and smell the robots.

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Until UBI becomes an issue, the GOP will control the Congress. IMO, 2024 at the earliest (Original Post) CK_John Mar 2017 OP
"If you think the current GOP Congress is going to save your health care think again." NS, Sherlock. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #1
what is UBI ?? jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #2
United Bicycle Institute. CrispyQ Mar 2017 #4
Universal Basic Income. CK_John Mar 2017 #6
The damage they are about to inflict is going to be immense. CrispyQ Mar 2017 #3
2020 will have a new census and 2022 will use new state maps. CK_John Mar 2017 #7
in my opinion, this may depend to some extent on what happens in other developed nations anarch Mar 2017 #5
Finland tests giving every citizen a universal basic income. CK_John Mar 2017 #8
 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
1. "If you think the current GOP Congress is going to save your health care think again." NS, Sherlock.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:38 AM
Mar 2017

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
4. United Bicycle Institute.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:15 PM
Mar 2017

Kidding. It is, but in this case, UBI is Unconditional Basic Income.

UBI Continues to be Wildly Unpopular

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/06/ubi-continues-be-wildly-unpopular

snip...

But eventually it will become reality. We just have to wait for the robot revolution to evolve to the point where lots of middle-class white people are permanently put out of work. Then it swiftly will go from pet unicorn to "duh." I imagine this transformation will take a surprisingly short time and will happen sometime around 2030 or so.

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
3. The damage they are about to inflict is going to be immense.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:12 PM
Mar 2017

I agree with your assessment that it will be at least 2024 before the dems regain any kind of control. If then. The GOP control at the state level is alarming. Voter disenfranchisement & gerrymandering could keep the dems out of power for a long, long time.

anarch

(6,535 posts)
5. in my opinion, this may depend to some extent on what happens in other developed nations
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017

If UBI in some form or another is adopted throughout most of the civilized world, and the U.S. economy and standard of living languishes and falters in comparison, that might compel our "leaders" to take some socialistic steps that they've wholly resisted so far.

Then again, this hasn't really happened so far with healthcare...unless the rich are existentially threatened, they will resist anything that would reduce their privilege in any way. Actually, probably still will resist changes that would erode the wealth gap, even in the face of impending doom.

I don't know that we'll make it to 2024 at this rate; either way, the era of U.S. ascendancy is over. I just hope the powers that be don't decide to take down the rest of the world with us.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
8. Finland tests giving every citizen a universal basic income.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:53 PM
Mar 2017
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-basic-income-jeremy-corbyn-considering-labour-party-a7177121.html

Finland tests giving every citizen a universal basic income

Experiment to start in 2017 and include 2,000 randomly selected welfare recipients of free government money.
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