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ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:04 PM Mar 2017

Ben Carson told HUD staff he could zap their brains into reciting whole books read 60 years ago.

As a surgeon at Johns Hopkins Hospital in 1987, Carson famously separated infant twins conjoined at the head. But on Monday, he told a factually wrong parable about the brain. Specifically, Carson said, the brain was incapable of forgetting and could be electrically stimulated into perfect recall — a statement that, even though made by one of the most famous former neurosurgeons alive, was far more fiction than science.

It came in an anecdote meant to motivate the federal employees, a bit Carson developed on the public speaking circuit. He described the brain’s surprising power as a way to show the audience that they were more capable than they believed.


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Except his description did not hit the mark. “It remembers everything you’ve ever seen. Everything you’ve ever heard. I could take the oldest person here, make a little hole right here on the side of the head,” Carson said, circling his left temple with a finger, “and put some depth electrodes into their hippocampus and stimulate. And they would be able to recite back to you, verbatim, a book they read 60 years ago. It’s all there. It doesn’t go away. You just have to learn how to recall it.”

He went on: “It can process more than 2 million bits of information per second. You can’t overload it. Have you ever heard people say, ‘Don’t do all that, you’ll overload your brain.’ You can’t overload the human brain. If you learned one new fact every second, it would take you more than 3 million years to challenge the capacity of your brain.”

The insinuation that Carson could zap a patient into reciting, from cover to cover, a book read in 1957 was not true, experts said.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/03/07/ben-carson-incorrectly-told-hud-staff-he-could-zap-their-brains-into-reciting-books-read-60-years-ago/?tid=a_inl&utm_term=.bb16f66cc7aa
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Ben Carson told HUD staff he could zap their brains into reciting whole books read 60 years ago. (Original Post) ehrnst Mar 2017 OP
I'd love to be able to recite books I read decades before my birth. Orrex Mar 2017 #1
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me that to have a frontal lobotomy MattP Mar 2017 #2
Do you remember Fernwood Tonight too? OMG I loved that show. bettyellen Mar 2017 #7
What is the source for... northoftheborder Mar 2017 #3
Folks can be brilliant in some areas, and daft in others.. JHan Mar 2017 #16
Ben needs a *zap* to recall the difference between slaves and immigrants underpants Mar 2017 #4
I really think he has some kind of neruological impairment Skittles Mar 2017 #5
LOL, What will the Brain Zapper do for an encorce? FSogol Mar 2017 #6
Junk science angrychair Mar 2017 #8
It really seems more and more... Else You Are Mad Mar 2017 #9
Then how come I'm not a brain surgeon? Initech Mar 2017 #10
I think he may have tried it. duncang Mar 2017 #11
Says Dr. FrankenBen suffragette Mar 2017 #12
That's FronkenBen Mendocino Mar 2017 #17
Love that film! Does that make Bannon Igor? suffragette Mar 2017 #21
Yes, except Bannons hump Mendocino Mar 2017 #23
Then how come a republican's favorite phrase is... lame54 Mar 2017 #13
or he can drill a hole in the side of your head and use it for grain storage 0rganism Mar 2017 #14
Seeds of knowledge? Mendocino Mar 2017 #18
Dont do all that, youll overload your brain. skypilot Mar 2017 #15
I wish he could zap my brain so I could remember where I put all that grain in Egypt. AngryAmish Mar 2017 #19
Can we start with him? mercuryblues Mar 2017 #20
Any chance he could zap his own brain and tell it to open his eyes every so often? Vinca Mar 2017 #22

MattP

(3,304 posts)
2. I'd rather have a bottle in front of me that to have a frontal lobotomy
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:06 PM
Mar 2017

That might explain why he's so slow

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
3. What is the source for...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:09 PM
Mar 2017

....the "information" that Ben Carson was a wildly successful admired, and noted surgeon. I have seen nothing to indicate that he is even minimally intelligent. Why did he retire if he was so great, and at what age did he do that?

JHan

(10,173 posts)
16. Folks can be brilliant in some areas, and daft in others..
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:02 PM
Mar 2017

I think what catches many with Carson is the conflation between neurosurgery ( which is a craft) and sciences like neuroscience or neurobiology. Often neurosurgeons are treated as if they're scientists, when they're not.

Still, Uncle Ben is a special case in the nutjob department.

angrychair

(8,696 posts)
8. Junk science
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

That is complete bullshit. Eidetic memory is a myth. It is impossible. That Carson proliferates junk science is of no surprise to me and makes me question his competence as a doctor.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
9. It really seems more and more...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:22 PM
Mar 2017

That there is an office pool that the person that says the most absurd thing possible.

Mendocino

(7,486 posts)
23. Yes, except Bannons hump
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:23 PM
Mar 2017

is between his waist and slack jaw.

We all know who the loud dimwitted creature is.

Vinca

(50,267 posts)
22. Any chance he could zap his own brain and tell it to open his eyes every so often?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 06:16 PM
Mar 2017

If he's not moving he's easy to mistake for a corpse.

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