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I only see the GOP getting more vicious, more ruthless, more sadistic and more greedy as we go along. If they have it all their way we will actually be a nation serfs with no hope at all. There is nothing the GOP is doing that will improve the situation for the average working American. It only gets worse from here on.
Repeal of the ACA and its replacement will only make matters much worse no matter how much they lie about it. In the end the GOP will regret their hatefulness.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Until we the Democratic Party control our Narrative,nothing changes.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)person, unlike Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Perez seem likely to utilize people like Howard Dean, Bernie Sanders, Keith Ellison and state and local Democratic chairs when making party policy and vetting candidates at all levels.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)in a very positive way. Like you mentioned,he is listening and that is the key.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)Yes, there were things like the French revolution, Germany getting out from under Hitler's rule, Scotland becoming their own country, East Berlin bringing down the wall and other things that have gained countries freedom and better lives. I also see that Russia is still under unfair rule, North Korea, and some other countries who at this time I honestly can not remember their names I think it is a 50/50 on what is done in the near or far future of this country.
Oh, If I got some of that wrong forgive me I am not a history buff but I just put down what I understand it to be.
Caliman73
(11,726 posts)Germany came out from under Hitler because the nation was defeated, then utterly defeated in 2 global wars. Prior to that they were a very young nation cobbled out of many different principalities, but with some common identity as German. They had to remake their society in the late 1940's and did so with the help of the United States, France, Britain, and Scandinavian countries. They created a much stronger central government than the Wiemar Republic, and infused it with a great many social democratic policies. They are a best case scenario and were ready for the form of government they have now. They are fighting to keep it.
Russia has not had it as easy, they went from monarchy, to anarchy and civil war, to brutal totalitarian rule for decades, to a period of slight freedom, and back to totalitarian rule, but with money and some new comforts. I am no Russian history buff either, but I do not see the traditions of freedom and individual liberties being strong within the Russian culture the way that they are in the United States, if only in concept.
North Korea is similar to Russia in that they have had a more monarchical history with many invasions and struggles to gain their independence from Japan, then China, etc... The Kim family has set themselves up as religious figures within the society. We talk about the "cult of personality" here in the States and how people are blindly following Trump, or Reagan, or Obama, etc... but nothing like what North Korea has been since the defeat of the Japanese in 1945.
The US has a history of resisting despotic rule, if only in our heads. Though we are by no means immune to becoming an authoritarian state, we are not as susceptible as Russia and North Korea.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)At this time though I do not know if we are not as susceptible. Things seem really touchy right now.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Where the post monarchy societal environment became one of chaos, instability and brutal rule by different groups but through it all, the French people kept trying to reach the state they envision when the stormed the Palace at Versille, ultimately reaching democracy after a couple of centuries. Since we have a history of what can be called democracy, I expect we will avoid a lot of anarchy and ultimately reach a state of Social Democracy after a couple decades of instability.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)If we ever get to the point that armed conflict is necessary, the Republican president (Donald or his successors) will bomb "resistance" (democratic) strongholds (major cities) as their opening move. The resulting economic collapse will make fighting unnecessary.
democrank
(11,092 posts)and awakenings can be rude.
volstork
(5,399 posts)You are correct.
(Love your username, BTW!)
tblue37
(65,269 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)GeoWilliam750
(2,522 posts)North Korea
Tibet
Xinjiang
Zimbabwe
Afghanistan
Cambodia (overthrown by Vietnam)
Native Americans
African Americans
The Kurds
The Armenians
The Untouchable Caste in India
Etc.
Far too often the will of the few oppressors is more powerful than the will of the many oppressed.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Republicans overreached dramatically during 2005-2008, as they appear to be setting up to do in 2017-2020 and ended up losing Congress, Governorships, majorities in some legislatures. The question is whether Democrats have the equivalent to Howard Dean leading it and whether republicans learned anything from 2005-2008 that could limit our political gains.