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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre Others Feeling That We've Experience A Coup d etat In November?.....
It was a total takeover - the presidency, the house and the senate. The Dems are basically powerless. All the committee's in Congress are stacked against us so as to ignore the truth. And now they are systematically destroying the government from the inside.
Are there no patriots in the Repug Party that still believe in the USA that would stand up to this administration?
Right after the November election - I stated that I felt demoralized by what we saw happen. It is now America Held Hostage Day 48 and I can't find a word that expresses my feelings now that is worse than demoralized.
I would like to say that good always triumphs over evil - but - I'm questioning even that now. All I can say is HELP!!!!!!
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)susanna
(5,231 posts)I have never - in thirty years of political gamesmanship - ever seen anything like it.
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)What happened becomes more obvious by the day.
still_one
(92,058 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)always triumph over evil. I would "like to think" that too, but it's a cliché. Let's see if we can spin the Holocaust, oh yeah, karma.
Only by admitting the TRUTH of what happened and is happening do we even have a chance. This thread was a breath of fresh air...Truth. I am so tired of hearing all the platitudes that are a total denial of reality.
If we don't deal with reality, we are just as lost as they are. Fake News aside, THEY hold all of the power. We only have some of the media, ourselves to challenge the lies, and the truth. Let's please, please hold on to the truth.
Sunlight at last.
still_one
(92,058 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)are all we have.
There are a few strong Dems, though a lot are late comers...would have been nice if you had shown up in time. Still, we start with a true assessment of our situation and do all we can.
One thing that may inadvertently help us is that when the Repubs get down to policy nuances, they may implode. Then again, DT and the RW nuts, who just want to make drastic decisions, without a clue how to implement them may prevail...like repealing Obamacare, without a "better" replacement, for which DT campaigned.
jalan48
(13,836 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)dalton99a
(81,374 posts)caroldansen
(725 posts)The Democrats in!
triron
(21,981 posts)Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)Warpy
(111,115 posts)He torpedoed the Clinton campaign by innuendo just days before the election and the corrupt bastard is still sitting on all the information he has on Trump's Russian connections, especially those with mobsters.
He wants to be some kind of hero, honorable, as he said, when he has the last perfectionist detail worked out and he releases it. Comey, you already fucked up the world. Nothing you do right will ever balance out with the evil and incompetence you have brought on the world.
Cha
(296,726 posts)world wide wally
(21,734 posts)Yeah right.
manicraven
(901 posts)all three branches because it was a big blue wave, and the next thing, the most terrible, lying, misogynistic, racist, xenophobic, illiterate and ignorant, Russian colluding, narcissist is in the White House, and we have zero power to do much of anything except sign petitions and carry signs around and are forced to watch while the GOP shreds our country to bits so they can gift their donors with even more of the pie.
So, in a nutshell, absolutely!
AllaN01Bear
(17,935 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)said this very stuff at various times and places. Him, his sons, the news. Im going to get pushback, but WTF didnt the Dems put it out there? Other than Bernie, and sometimes Bill C, most would not call it what it was or publicly connect the dots. Tippy toe, be really quiet and nice and maybe the Repubs will be nice back. How has that worked? We have lost our country. Even if we win now, it will take decades to undo the damage caused to us by DT, plus the loss of our reputation. Hillary, who I supported, was beaten to death with lies. Some of the media are now putting it out there. As RM said tonight, I've decided no one else is going to do it, we better. I guess they thought the Dems were going to do it in the election. The DNC was in turmoil, changing leaders, and both had lost all credibility, and the neophytes running the camp were so craven they didn't even go into Wisconsin or Michigan because they didnt want to stir it up. There were at least 20 other reasons we lost. However, most of them can be boiled down to, we let them steamroll right over us with fake bs and lies, and we didnt nail them for the stuff that they REALLY did.
A HERETIC I AM
(24,360 posts)I would say no, it doesn't qualify as a coup d' etat
When you have tanks in the streets, major political figures being arrested and the press and radio shut down, then you might have something
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)blood. Just more insidious, better planning, more power, and less violent.
Warpy
(111,115 posts)What we are now suffering through is the founding fathers' worst nightmare, that the uneducated masses would directly elect an ignorant populist with several large screws loose. It's why they stuck the antidemocratic EC into the constitution, as a protection against the rabble going against the interest of the country and electing a fool.
Well, that has happened. The EC failed to do their duty to the constitution and were loyal only to their party, so the fool was installed against the votes of the majority for the second time in my lifetime.
No, it wasn't a coup, exactly, although it does feel like one in many ways.
Our best hope now is that the Congress becomes frightened enough of their constituents to rectify the error, starting with getting that model of corruption, Comey, into the hot seat to find out just what's going on with 45's Russian "entanglements."
zentrum
(9,865 posts)Bannon has been planning and studying this for years.
butdiduvote
(284 posts)The exact nature of it I don't know. Something very evil and undemocratic happened, though. I can't believe that Hillary simply was so unpopular that that many people stayed home or that so many working class people were just wooed by his promises to bring back their coal jobs. I live in Georgia and remember the people at my campaign office genuinely pushing the idea that Georgia could turn blue. I remember the early voting reports that Hillary's Florida lead was all but insurmountable. I remember all of the talk about how the Republicans were in trouble if they didn't do some serious modernizing and accept that the left won the culture wars.
I could maybe accept a few things not going as we were anticipating, like maybe Hillary actually lost but it was only because of one state or Hillary won, but the Rs overperformed in the House and Senate races. This giant red wave is suspicious as fuck. I want answers as to what happened. I deserve them as an American citizen. None of the answers I've been given thus far are satisfactory or even believable.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)furtheradu
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..SO describes my convictions (not feelings) after November 8. Thank you. Stay strong. 💜
LovinBlueInKY
(9 posts)I knew it was a coup on election night! We have to fight.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)In terms of war this was the perfect war and we lost. The perfect crime has always been the crime that was committed and no one knows that there was a crime. The perfect war is one which was committed and no one officially acknowledges it ever happened. We were invaded and lost the first great Cyber War with Russia. We now have an illegitimate government supported by domestic traitors and are occupied by agents of the Russian Federation. Anyone at any level who supports or works for Donald Trump is a traitor.
catbyte
(34,322 posts)"The arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends towards justice."
With this gang of traitors, criminals, crackpots, bigots, and miscreants currently infesting government at every level, that arc has taken a disastrous u-turn. We must fight tooth and nail to get it back on track.
gordianot
(15,232 posts)We have been invaded by racism, hate, xenophobia and a real foreign enemy government. Dr. King if he were alive today would face the same enemy + to his message. Hope is dying a quick death.
get the red out
(13,460 posts)I did not until it became obvious that 45 is a Russian asset, as well as those around him, and it doesn't seem to matter at all.
sinkingfeeling
(51,434 posts)Even if things could be reversed in 2018 or 2020 (and they will make that an impossibly by changing who can vote), it would exceed my lifetime to fix.