Rep Joe. Kennedy just threw Ryan's bible quote right in his face. We all need to do this

[Maraya1969]

I was doing this on Twitter for a while until I had to stop or go mad. All these rethugs call themselves Christians and do every single thing that Jesus said not to do and nothing that he said to do.

It is really easy to look up things like, "Jesus's sayings on healing the sick" "The bible on welcoming foreigners"

Just look at what they are doing and there is probably something in that book that they lay their hands on when they are sworn in that says NOT to do it. They are hypocrites of the first degree and they should be shown that, in their face, repeatedly, by all of us.

You don't have to be a Christian to teach these hypocrites about Christianity.


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/it-is-an-act-of-malice-dem-lawmaker-cites-the-bible-to-take-trumpcare-to-the-woodshed/?comments=disqus


Rep. Joe Kennedy III (D-MA) absolutely torched the House Republicans’ health care plan on Wednesday, and he did it by throwing House Speaker Paul Ryan’s words back in his face.

Noting that Ryan called the House GOP health care plan an “act of mercy,” Kennedy noted that there’s nothing at all in the New Testament that would justify stripping health insurance from millions of people.

“With all due respect to our speaker, he and I must have read different Scripture,” said Kennedy. “The one I read calls on us to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to shelter the homeless, and to comfort the sick.”

[Girard442]

2. Call them "CINOs"

Christians in name only.

[Maraya1969]

5. I think we have to be specific. Ever since Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson started their,

"Moral Majority" bullshit they have abused what are the real teachings of Jesus are to manipulate and gain power.

The Republicans main voting block are Christians. Yet they are the Anti-Christians. I see it in my own family. They have become so callous over the years by listening to this bastardized version of what Jesus taught. Actually they don't even listen to the actual teachings, they listen to the people who teach. And these people teach what ever the Hell they want and pull different verses to justify themselves.


Truthfully, though I do not consider myself a Christian now I really like the teachings of Jesus since I started reading them! I consider myself Buddhist but what I've found out is Jesus and Buddha taught the same things.

[Girard442]

8. Evangelicals' support of Trump was a wathershed moment.

Hypocrites have always been with us, but after November 7, 2016, the religious right gave up any claim of even a molecule of morality.

[Bettie]

10. My grandma used to call them

Cafeteria Christians...they go down the line and take what they want and leave the stuff that they don't like.

Then, she'd tell me that the stuff they don't like is the stuff that's harder to do, like caring about those who have less than they have and being kind to those who have done wrong or have different beliefs, while taking extra helpings of things like being judgmental.

Today's right wing evangelicals go far beyond that, they have changed the entire message to "If you have money, "god" loves you, if you don't have money, you need to be punished for lacking "god's" favor".

[bigbrother05]

18. They mine the OT for ways to support their prejudices

Christianity is based on Jesus and the NT. The intent should be to view the OT as "history", not law.

[world wide wally]

21. Exactly the way I see it.

Jesus even said, "I now give you a new law above all the rest. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" (paraphrasing)
Talk about keeping it simple.

[N77VG]

55. Tell it to the 'christians' who want to erect large graven images of a 'holy'

old testament injunction that starts out "make no graven image" on the steps of public government buildings....

[Alice11111]

60. Good point! Do not take God's name in vain, they misuse

that commandment too. Everytime they use Christianity as a basis for doing something despicable, that is using gods name in vain.
It doesn't mean, don't curse. When they pepper their racist, anti Muslim, writings and radio with scripture, that is using God's name in vain. Their values and how they live their lives, money over everything else, is complete hypocrisy, yet they wear and post all of the Christian icons and scripture, as though that gives them a license to say or do anything.
I get especially upset at how they teach theit kids mean, anti compassionate values or they fail to teach their kids decency,
I often don't even tell people I'm a Christian because I don't want to be associated with them. They are a plague on Christianity.

[Alice11111]

70. Cafeteria Christians, descriptive. Grandmothers are wise.

[Bettie]

78. She was very annoyed by them

also by people who said one needed to have blind faith.

She said faith that won't stand up to questions or other people's beliefs wasn't faith, it was willful blindness disguised as belief.

She also taught me that people who look to be the ones ordering people around are not usually trustworthy.

[Alice11111]

79. Wise grandmother

I had wise and wonderful grandparents too. A very Bright spot is my life.

[Bettie]

80. Mine were too

I miss them all and I hope that I can some day be a similarly bright spot for my own grandchildren, should I be fortunate enough to have a few.

Maybe I'll even become wise by then!

[Beartracks]

82. Even this is stupid: "you need to be punished for lacking 'god's favor'"

Even *if* the assertion -- that poor people clearly lack God's favor -- were true, then such divine disfavor *is* the punishment, and that punishment is to be meted out by God, not man, and no more punishment would be necessary.

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[joet67]

90. I like this description. Also, a not insignificant number of them are just straight-up frauds about

it, in this group. And they know it.

[Ligyron]

11. Problem is: there's a Jesus for each and every ideology.

Just shop the different denominations and no-denominations available on about every other street corner and you'll find a Jesus that hates the same people you do - from Agape to RW and Nazi Dominists.

Doesn't help that the the KJ bible is so cryptic and contradictory in many instances.

I was raised hippie Episcopal Anglican before I threw in the towel on the whole stinking mess.

[Maraya1969]

17. I find that when I read the actual verses they sound like kindness, except

the old testament and all the atrocities there but that doesn't matter because we need to just show them that they are not following the teachings of Jesus, which they aren't. Jesus never said anything bad like that.

Christians like to throw some verse around where Jesus said he came with a sword, like that justifies them being violent but I also heard someone say that it was like performance art and not at all meaning violence. And that makes sense.

[Ligyron]

81. Did not Jesus say that not one jot or tittle of the (Old Testament) Law would be changed?

You know - all those bad things therein?

[Major Nikon]

98. Jesus did not, the self-described "apostle" Paul did

Paul never met Jesus (unless you count the one time on a 3 day bender when the holy poltergeist whispered in his ear), yet Paul managed to change many parts of Mosaic Law enshrined in the Hebrew bible. That's why Christians don't have to be circumcised and eat ham on Easter, among other things.

[Doreen]

85. I remeber the old testament encouraging to kill those who

did not believe and even to the extent of genocide. I think I remember reading some of that in the old testament.

[N77VG]

56. Amen! .......oops

anyone who thinks the bible is a good book has never bothered to actuallly read it.

http://www.godisimaginary.com/video2.htm

[cilla4progress]

28. Isn't there something about false idols

in the bible?

"The Gospel of Prosperity." Blech.

[Lotusflower70]

43. Yep

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."

Matthew 7:15

[Alice11111]

61. That's the Repubs

[Lotusflower70]

84. I know right

Pretty much sums them up.

[Warpy]

96. Jesus in the NT also warns extensively about false prophets

and I think we know exactly who those are: any preacher who focuses on who to hate, who to punish, and who to condemn on earth, taking god's place as judge.

Prosperity gospel isn't packing the butts in the pews any more. Too many people saw the only one prospering was the preacher.

[Major Nikon]

99. Jesus himself is a false idol

The so-called evidence establishing Jesus as the Messiah is demonstrably false, and even if it weren't Jews never worshiped King David.

[lastlib]

94. "I like your Christ. I'm not sure I like your Christians."--

--Mohandas Gandhi.

I love that quote!

[Major Nikon]

34. No true Scotsman

The problem with that idea is that Christianity throughout history has always reflected the ideology of those in power, and as such has been far more of a method of justifying a set of morals rather than a moral philosophy. Hitler even used Christianity to his benefit.

"In truth, there was only one Christian, and he died on the cross."
― Friedrich Nietzsche

[Crash2Parties]

87. Exactly right. Christian is as Christian does. Don't like it? STOP THEM.

Get large numbers of people - important people (read: celebrities, sportsball players, talk show hosts) to proclaim that the GOP's brand of Christianity is far more hypocritical than the rest and far more dishonest.

Call them on it. Not quietly. Bring it out in the open every chance you get, to everyone you talk to about politics or religion.

Right now, they ARE the face of Christianity.

[Major Nikon]

95. They are just using religion for exactly as it's always been intended

There's nothing new about it. The face of Christianity, or any organized religion for that matter, is always a false facade. Pretending to be a moral philosophy is just the veil religion must wear to maintain a sense of legitimacy. It's always been a means of controlling the masses, which is why it's always been entwined with politics.

[Maraya1969]

3. I just looked up verses on the evils of loving money. Here

https://www.openbible.info/topics/love_of_money

I went through them quickly, and found these would be appropriate to repeat to these greedy and people



1 Timothy 6:10 ESV /

For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

Matthew 6:24 ESV /

“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.


1 Timothy 6:5 ESV /

And constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain.

1 John 2:15 ESV /

Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.


Matthew 19:23-24 ESV /

And Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly, I say to you, only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”

1 John 4:20 ESV /

If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

[King_Klonopin]

45. "For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also." (Matthew 6:21)

We have passion for things we value most.


Do you prefer the ways of men or the ways of God ?

Power or compassion ?

Heaping up wealth or acts of charity ?

To be served yourself or to serve others ?

Punishment or mercy ?

Passing judgment or mercy ?

[druidity33]

86. Ah Matthew...

The guy who makes me think Christianity just might be OK...

[n2doc]

4. Funny how the RWNJ's always claim the Government was founded on 'Christian principles"

And then do the most unChristian things with it.

[CrispyQ]

46. Colbert nailed it:

[Ilsa]

57. Rep. Kennedy should use that, next time he speaks. NT

[brooklynite]

6. Aha!

The Bible said "COMFORT the sick", not "CURE" them.

[Maraya1969]

7. OK. But it says to help the poor many times. And giving them health care is helping the poor

And taking it away is just plain evil


Acts 20:35 ESV /

In all things I have shown you that by working hard in this way we must help the weak and remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”


Matthew 25:35-40 ESV / 883 helpful votes

For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, I was a stranger and you welcomed me, I was naked and you clothed me, I was sick and you visited me, I was in prison and you came to me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, saying, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? And when did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? And when did we see you sick or in prison and visit you?’ ...

[Maraya1969]

9. This one is about when you don't help those in need!

Matthew 44

And they too will reply, ‘Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?’ 45 Then the King will answer, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for Me.’ 46 And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.”…


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I think this one is good because it is a mirror of what they are.

[HopeAgain]

13. Not a lot of curing going on 2 millennia ago

Except Jesus did heal the lepers even though it was a pre-existing condition.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

35. Ah. OK. "I'll pray for you".

Then be on my merry way, hurting anyone in my path who disagrees with me.

[LanternWaste]

39. Don't sprint unless you stretch.

Textual criticism requires us to look at the meaning, context and placement of the words used in their original language and only then, compare and contrast.

Don't sprint unless you stretch.

[Buckeyeblue]

12. Fundies are a new religion

I've posted on this before. They have effectively said that it is ok to substitute opinion for the word of god. You can see this in their nonsensical religious posts on Facebook or Twitter. It's like they take on king james bible speak and suddenly that is the word of god. These post are fun to read dramatically. But they are dangerous because these ignorant people believe this shit.

[world wide wally]

23. The religious right is simply a wing of the GOP

It has NOTHING to do with God or religion or spirituality or anything else.
Haven't you ever heard of Saint Ayn Rand?

[Buckeyeblue]

97. In some cases yes

But many of these people don't know who Ayn Rand is, nor would the understand The Fountainhead if they read it. This new religion gives them cover for a life that has not been well lived. Gives them instant martyrdom for being stupid, because that means they stood against the evil lies perpetuated by higher education. These people vote against their own self interests, which is akin to wallowing in your own feces.

[malthaussen]

14. "With all due respect" is my favorite insult. n/t

[El Mimbreno]

25. Especially when directed at...

Someone who deserves none!

[Alice11111]

63. Yeah, it means, "hey, stupid ashole."

[phylny]

15. I'm a Christian. I'm the type of Christian who believes that it is our duty as people and

as a nation to take care of those who need to be cared for.

I have lots of cousins. On one side, they're fundamentalist, evangelical Christians. All but one have these beliefs:
- always vote Republican, no matter what
- God gave us control over the earth to do whatever we want. We don't have to necessarily take care of it
- it is up to churches, NOT government, to help people

There is no reasoning with this type of thinking.

[dchill]

27. "...no reasoning with this type of thinking."

None whatsoever. What a travesty.

[safeinOhio]

29. Fundamentalist.....

No fun and mental.

[Alice11111]

66. Well said

[Alice11111]

65. Me too. Plagued with fundamentalist Repub "Christian"

relatives that cause me a lot of grief, even though we live in different states.
Constant mean drama anytime something comes up about my mother. I don't deal with them unless I have to.
Other than the kids, I wish they would all blow up, just like DT and his gang. They are putting evil into the world.
I worry that they don't even teach their kids good values.
Next generation...coming right up.

[Sherman A1]

16. K&R

[Cary]

19. Joe left out Gods greatest blessing

Tax cuts for billionaires!

That cures everything, always and everywhere, don't you know?

[Cryptoad]

20. Bless their Hearts,,,,

They all believe that the Poor are poor because they are lazy!

"... the man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest..."

[WePurrsevere]

31. True and that's one of the best and truest S&G song lines IMO. nt

[Plucketeer]

22. I'm NOT a Christian - proud to say

But I know and DO more of what's in the "Good Book" than a GOPer EVER has. And I don't even ask for receipts for tax deductions. Imagine how STUPID I am - giving without expectation of a return?

Here's hoping Ryan's final "viewing" (when his day comes) has him laid out in a gold-trimmed coffin, an expensive suit and a fat wad of dollars stuffed and overflowing from his lying mouth.

[dchill]

30. A "was of dollars" for tipping...

the porters on the way to hell.

[Cryptoad]

42. Most of the "True" Christians I know,,,,

do not profess to be Christians!

[jannyd65]

48. So true...

A true Christian walks the walk, not just talks the talk like some of these "so-called" Christians in Congress!

[Alice11111]

67. Very true

If you are wearing neon signs and constantly quoting scriptures to justify every time you fuck someone over, you aren't really a Christian.

The real ones serve in silence.

[YoungDemCA]

88. FWIW, phrases like "follow God" or "follow me" (Jesus) far outnumber the word "Christian"...

...in the Bible.

Anyone can call themselves a "Christian", Muslim, Shit-eating Pepe Troll, or whatever the fuck they want to label themselves. At the end of the day, you are what you do.

[Cryptoad]

91. "You will know them by the Fruit they bear!"

[jmbar2]

24. Call 'em what they are - Fake Christians

Jesus, please protect us from your "followers".

[King_Klonopin]

47. If Jesus were standing in front of them, he would say, "I never knew you!"

Matthew 7:21-23

21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

He knows the ones who are full of shit.

[Thinkingabout]

26. Good, they try to hide behind their religion declaring God sent Trump to the WH, WRONG.

They claim to be interested in unborn children then they make every effort to stop food stamps which will be feeding the same children they claim to protect. I would hope more Christians will step up and say this is wrong, it is time to follow the teachings of Jesus. Jesus did not hate others, why is the hate of Muslims, etc tolerated by the supporters of Trump who displays his hate of others.

[Goblinmonger]

32. How about we tell our government officials to stop using religion?

How about they keep religion out of government like Madison wanted. That would cool.

And there are multiple ways to correctly interpret the bible given the multiple and weird contradictions it contains (even with regard to Jesus). They will say you are wrong as much as you say they are wrong. And you both have verses to support you. Another reason to not use religion in policy arguments.

[Alice11111]

68. It is actually the law already...they bastardize it.

[Goblinmonger]

69. They can talk about whatever they want, I guess

but I agree that it just gets frustrating that religion keeps being this thing we use to justify policy decisions.

[Alice11111]

73. It IS using the Lord's name in vain, to justify whatever

they want to do to make money or hurt others.

[safeinOhio]

33. The religious right follows

The Gospel according to John Galt....

Always nice to have your Red Letter Bible around so you can ask them to show you Jesus's words on that subject. Gay marriage, abortion and free markets.

[SticksnStones]

36. My very conservative Christian brother, Rush's biggest fan by the way...

Says if you want to be fed, clothed and safe in a home then join a church. It's not the government's job, it's the failing of people to join churches that's the problem.

There is such a disconnect between cause, action and goal in his world ~

[Alice11111]

74. Maybe we are related. I have such a brother too.

Always making a show about praying and wearing a red armband. Loves Rush. RW as hell. Mean, aggressive Hypocrite.

Someone should start a thread on dealing w RW family.

[DUgosh]

37. Proverbs 11:24

"The liberal soul shall be made fat, and he that waterth shall be watered also himself".

Extra points for us liberals still having our souls.

[El Mimbreno]

38. And Kennedy continued ripping ryan:

There is is no mercy in a system that makes health care a luxury.

There is no mercy in a country that turns their back on those most in need of protection: the elderly, the poor, the sick, and the suffering.

There is no mercy in a cold shoulder to the mentally ill.

This is not an ‘act of mercy.’ It is an act of malice.”

[Ilsa]

58. Brilliant speech. He was cut off the very second his time ran out. NT

[asiliveandbreathe]

40. Ah, Rep. Joe Kennedy...I am encouraged - let the light shine on him -

I was trying to figure out why all that is swirling about us just doesn't feel right..like a thorn in our side - nails on a chalkboard - a splinter in my finger that I just know is there, but I have to wait..

I have no answer..I just know it is wrong -

Think about the most detestable behaviors we are witness to..

Haughty eyes, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked schemes, feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false witness who pours out lies, and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers - some writings about the seven deadly sins... RESIST..

[Enoki33]

41. The humanity of organized religion has been so corrupted by ugly

politics, business and charlatans that pretty much nothing surprises me because l believe religion was invented by mankind as a way to indoctrinate and control the masses. That does not mean there is not a supreme being, or that spirituality does not exist. Viewed from that perspective people like Paul Ryan can be better seen for the power hungry hollow hypocrites that they are.

[Lotusflower70]

44. Bravo!

Well done Joseph Kennedy III. He called out the fake Christian which the GOP is full of. They have been milking the Bible for decades with their distorted viewpoints. It's sickening.

[alfredo]

49. Republicans rule by the Old Testament, Dems live by the Beatitudes.

[packman]

50. When a Repuke uses the word "Christian"

[madamesilverspurs]

51. The more things change...

the more they stay the same.




.

[Charles Bukowski]

52. Right-wing Christians

= modern-day Pharisees

[Alice11111]

71. Yep! Yep!

[mnhtnbb]

53. The right wing pretend "Christians" are such hypocrites--and not just about their religion.

They will claim it's not the government's job to do all the things that Christians are called upon to do
privately as individuals. And then they'll turn right around and want to use the government to
deny LGBT people equal rights or women the right to make their own health care decisions.

Hypocrites. Just great big fu*kin' hypocrites. I'm sick of the lot of them.

[N77VG]

54. Religion was invented when the first scammer bumped into

the first gullible dope.

If praying to a deity worked -at all- there would be at least a few people (christians?) who had limbs amputated through no fault of their own running (or at least walking) around with magically, divinely restored appendages.

When we determine whether religion is the cause...or the result...of insanity we might be able to cure both.

http://www.godisimaginary.com

[Ilsa]

59. I guess gopers see poor people needing healthcare as

a chance for Jesus to return and do a few million miracles. Right. Like that's going to happen.

[lagomorph777]

62. According to the Bible, Jesus operated a free mobile clinic:

Miracle Sources
Rich young man raised from the dead Secret Gospel of Mark 1
Resurrected dead playmate Zeno Infancy Thomas 9
Healed a woodcutter's foot Infancy Thomas 10
Healed James' viper bite Infancy Thomas 16
Resurrected a dead child Infancy Thomas 17
Resurrected a dead man Infancy Thomas 18
Miraculous Virgin Birth verified by midwife Infancy James 19-20

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracles_of_Jesus

[bdamomma]

64. the American people are just a waste of time

for Mr. Ryan. He has no respect for the American people and Mr. McConnell too.

[Angry Dragon]

72. republican christians only read the good parts ......... in their eyes

[red dog 1]

76. You tell 'em, Joe

I like this guy...a lot!

[pamdb]

77. Bible

That's because Eddie Munster's bible was written by Ayn Rand.

[Beartracks]

83. Different scripture: The Book of Rand. n/t

[YoungDemCA]

89. Note that Jesus commanded his followers to love God AND love people.

I don't think the intention there was to separate loving God from loving others. But an awful lot of the people in this country who call themselves Christians sure don't live like they understand that.

[zentrum]

92. Go Joe!

[krakfiend]

93. Good for him (Kennedy)

Although it's just going to fall on deaf ears. What ryan refers to when he talks about mercy, is a mercy tax cut for the wealthy.