Have you ever noticed.. anyone who has NEVER been in a war is so gung ho for one

[Peacetrain]

[INdemo]

1. Yep

[ck4829]

2. Yes. Look at the build up to the Iraq War

They absolutely romanticized the future war with Iraq. Iraqis would greet us as liberators, they'd shower soldiers with flowers and kisses. We'd use the oil to pay for the war, we wouldn't even notice it. We'd have "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" and get out.

All said by people who were never in one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

6. Oh yes, so true. That was disgusting.

[luvMIdog]

3. too bad they do not have to gear up and join the men they doom

Stupid dictator fucker

[redstatebluegirl]

4. Yes, also people who know their family is immune to being drafted and serving in harms way.

I never served but my brother did. He always told me that you should never send others to war if you haven't been shot at yourself.

[NWCorona]

5. Paper bag warriors always think they're high-speed until the guns come out.

I've seen plenty chicken out when that red light turns green and that door opens up.

[KingCharlemagne]

8. OT a bit, but what is a "paper bag warrior"? I've never seen that

particular phrase before.

[NWCorona]

10. We used it for people who never served and act like they did or act like they know everything

Or actual soldiers who act hard but chicken out.

[KingCharlemagne]

17. Hmm. I wonder where the phrase originated. I was thinking that if

you inflate a paper bag and then pop it, it can make a loud percussive noise. But it's only sound, no explosive power. So a PBW is someone who makes a lot of noise but there's nothing behind it (other than a bunch of hot air).

Full disclosure: I've never been in combat or the military, but I have read a lot of fiction set in times of war and a lot of histories of folks who went through it. I do think there are some wars that had to be fought -- the U.S. Civil War and World War II, for example, or the American War if you were Vietnamese. But generally speaking, wars should always be a last resort.

[NWCorona]

19. Wars should definitely be a last resort. That's why I prefer elected officials

Who would be in charge of sending our brave men and women off to combat to have served in the military. I do realize that the times have changed though and it's more common for politicians not have not served.

I always thought paper bag warriors was a play on the phrase, couldn't [fill in the blank] there way out of a paper bag. I like your idea too.

[roscoeroscoe]

28. Bragg?

Never jumped, but drove out thru the ECP numerous times. Good times. Why would a chicken hawk want to miss out?

[NWCorona]

32. Mostly Benning as Bragg has the Advanced jump school

Definitely some good times.

[Mendocino]

7. The only people that are for war

are chickenhawks, psychopaths and REMFs. (the RE refers to rear echelon)

[MineralMan]

9. Let's You and Him Fight!

The cry of the chickenhawk...

[ck4829]

25. You and him fight... in that place far away from me

[Zing Zing Zingbah]

11. There's still a lot of us who have never been in a war that aren't exciting about war

It should be last resort. Otherwise it is a stupid waste of human life and money.

[Wounded Bear]

12. That's why, with the exception of some in the Trump cabal...

Generals are a bit more reserved about their jingoistic tendencies.

Even a couple of Trump's generals seem to be a bit more reticent. Trump thinks he's playing Risk or something.

[Scruffy1]

13. Every day.

I've often noticed the kind of people that going around wearing an Army or Navy hate were usually remfs. My grandfather had three silver stars and was staunchly anti war. My father served in two wars and was the same way. Neither hated the military, they were just against wars. Strangely, I've know some lifers who were pretty much the same way. I think the military propaganda wears out after two or three hitches, or as friend put it, "they only have you for five or six years, after that you start questioning things." the vast majority of Americans think that war is a football game where our team wins.

[roscoeroscoe]

31. Same here

My dad did two tours in Viet Nam on Swift boats; he drove his beat up old truck around with a "Republicans for Kerry" bumper sticker for years. He was quietly anti-war.

When I deployed to Tikrit, I swear we had some right wing types who were convinced by the time we were done with our tour, American troops would run over Iran, Syria, Jordan, the whole works. By the time we left, they mostly saw the error of their ways...

I was surprised how bitter some of the previously rah-rah types were. "That xxxx-sucker Bush," one guy said; surprised the heck out of me.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

14. Let's you and him fight. nt

[Iggo]

15. It is ever thus.

[brooklynite]

16. I haven't and I'm not...

..."anyone" is a very broad category.

[librechik]

18. unfortunately, I have. Many, many times. n/t

[democratisphere]

20. Sure. Specially when they are old and flabby and couldn't fight their way

out of a wet paper bag. I can think of at least one blowhard that comes to mind.

[HAB911]

21. The way of the Chickenhawk

[sarge43]

22. They think war is a video game

When it starts unspooling, just hit the ESC button.

[DavidDvorkin]

23. Anyone? You need to rephrase that.

"Many of the people who are gung ho for war have never been in one."

[m-lekktor]

24. I have noticed,for partisan hacks, it depends more on who is president

whether they support war or not. I am a vet who would rarely support it unless an attack on our soil was imminent.

[Oneironaut]

26. My teenagers can kill your teenagers!

[Baitball Blogger]

27. Bravado. Tough talk for the weak.

[madamesilverspurs]

29. Indeed.

My older brother did three tours in Vietnam. He was horrified by Bush's push for war with Iraq. For the first time in his life he volunteered for a political campaign when Obama ran for President, and he remains ardently committed against any argument in favor of war.

My younger brother retired from the military at the end of August 2001. His years of service took him around the globe, but he never once saw combat. He worships Reagan, supported Bush, and refuses to engage in any conversation that doesn't glorify Trump. And he's one of those who believe his service makes his opinion more important than anyone else's.

Family gatherings are "interesting."


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[muntrv]

30. Bush/Cheney.