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shockey80

(4,379 posts) Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:45 PM Mar 2017

Healthcare. I am watching the people of america debate their own destruction.

The free market healthcare system does not work. It will never work. It has been proven. We must go to a single payer/medicare type healthcare system.

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Healthcare. I am watching the people of america debate their own destruction. (Original Post) shockey80 Mar 2017 OP

Problem is it works great, if you are a rich investor. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1

DURec leftstreet Mar 2017 #2

Yes, it does not work for the benefit of many, and furthermore, it is not a 'system' at all. elleng Mar 2017 #3

We've never had a healthcare "system"... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #4

Look at obamacare. shockey80 Mar 2017 #5

Before you can have that, we're going to have to win some elections. MineralMan Mar 2017 #6

After i watch the american people destroy themselves on healthcare, shockey80 Mar 2017 #7

What did we have before the ACA? jmg257 Mar 2017 #8

Why is this country so different from the others? What is happening today is the wrong way lunasun Mar 2017 #9

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)

1. Problem is it works great, if you are a rich investor.

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:46 PM

Mar 2017

People dont understand how badly they are being robbed

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)

2. DURec

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:47 PM

Mar 2017

elleng

(130,865 posts)

3. Yes, it does not work for the benefit of many, and furthermore, it is not a 'system' at all.

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:50 PM

Mar 2017

Wounded Bear

(58,646 posts)

4. We've never had a healthcare "system"...

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 01:52 PM

Mar 2017

we have a healthcare "Industry." Profit rules all. Patient care? I think they consider that a side effect.

shockey80

(4,379 posts)

5. Look at obamacare.

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:03 PM

Mar 2017

The parts that worked the best are not part of the free market. Medicaid expansion, outlawing pre-existing conditions,etc. The parts that are not working are part of the free market.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)

6. Before you can have that, we're going to have to win some elections.

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:10 PM

Mar 2017

Until then, it's a waste of time talking about it, frankly.

Focus on the first tasks first. Right now, we'll be lucky if we don't lose everything we've gained. We lost the election in 2016, and we lost it badly. That's where we have to fight if we want single payer.

Save your energy for election activism. You're going to need it.

shockey80

(4,379 posts)

7. After i watch the american people destroy themselves on healthcare,

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:16 PM

Mar 2017

I get to watch them destroy the economy when trump and the republicans pass the biggest trickle down bill is history. Massive tax cuts for the rich, deregulation on a scale never seen before and the gutting of government agencies.

I should not be surprised, The american people have been voting to destroy themselves for decades. They were almost successful in 2008. Now they are trying again.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)

8. What did we have before the ACA?

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:21 PM

Mar 2017

lunasun

(21,646 posts)

9. Why is this country so different from the others? What is happening today is the wrong way

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Thu Mar 9, 2017, 02:30 PM

Mar 2017

But I sure hope it's not a one way back slide and that yes eventually we can make it like most any other developed country to a healthcare system.

Why are we so different that we don't allow this as a country when almost all other developed countries do?

What does it say about our culture?

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