I'm not a huge fan of the CIA*, but I think it is unwise for Thump to throw them under the bus.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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He seems to be happy that their surveillance methods have been exposed. If they are surveilling ISIS, Kim Jong-un, and other assorted bad actors that seems like a good thing. No?





On edit-when they act badly, like aiding in the overthrow of democratically elected leaders

[BainsBane]

1. Because he's a traitor

Full stop.

[get the red out]

2. Exactly!

He couldn't care less what happens to this country, or its people. He just wants power and $$$.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. Have you heard the new alt- right theory on the Russian hack(s)?

The CIA hacked the DNC and made it look like the Russians did it to damage Trump.

[get the red out]

4. Yes, I've been hearing that

That the CIA can make their IP addresses look like they come from anywhere and THEY did it, not the Russians. But if that were true, how would the pieces of shit on RW radio KNOW THEY DID?????

Just like the circular thinking an R used with me the other day; that Obama wiretapped Trump and will end up in prison for it. But everyone is essentially wiretapped in the whole country by our dastardly intelligence agencies. (So why would Obama need to wiretap Trump if everyone was already wiretapped?).

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. It still wouldn't explain all the surreptitious meetings or the meetings that occurred and then...

It still wouldn't explain all the surreptitious meetings or the meetings that occurred and then were denied.

[get the red out]

6. Not in the least

But if the RW media says it, it has to be true.

Frustrating.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. We are continually told those meetings were routine and had historical precedent.

Yet no such meetings were held by Clinton associates. If there were I am sure the right wing press would have made us aware of them by now.

[nikibatts]

7. There is always the possibility that not ALL CIA surveillance methods were exposed.

That may be what they want people to think.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

9. I sure hope so. I don't think it inures to our benefit to see the CIA neutered.

Where will we get our intelligence?

FOX?

BREITBART?

NEWSMAX?

[asiliveandbreathe]

17. I believe they are fishing - being as paranoid as they are..

and now we "walk" - into Syria..is that truly what the trumphumpers voted for? - I am just mystified by all this...dismayed, disgusted and every other description for how many of us feel, Ii know...

[world wide wally]

10. If everyone was wire tapped, 45 would be doing 45 years by now.

[KittyWampus]

11. You're not a "huge fan of the CIA". Are you a huge fan of the Justice Dept?

Because ultimately how the CIA operate largely depends on the person in the Oval Office.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. The CIA is an intelligence gathering agency who has acted poorly at times

The Department of Justice is responsible for law enforcement.

Both the DOJ and the CIA are as good or bad as the people who lead them and work there.

[kentuck]

12. I canunderstand the ambiguity about the CIA.

For decades, we have criticized the CIA for embedding themselves in American foreign policy and creating problems all around the world.

Now, it appears they are being destroyed bit by bit (byte by byte) by external protagonists? These foreign hackers are accomplishing what many Americans had hoped they could have done themselves.

Would we be better without a CIA? That's a tough question for many leftists that have fought the CIA operations for so long. They have robbed us of trust and treasure over the years.

The bottom line is that when it came down to the final analysis, they could not protect our country. Their work was used to harm our country.

No doubt, the CIA and intelligence agencies have their tentacles in all parts of our government. But, it appears now that their deepest secrets have been revealed? Wikileaks says that they have everything the CIA had? If that is true, should we re-build the CIA from scratch? Or should we look at this as an opportunity to continue dismantling this freedom-smothering organization?

Or should we look at it as something more important? It is more about the security of our nation than whether the CIA survives or not? Can they finally prove that they are up to the task of saving our country from determined foreign enemies? Can they finally justify their reason for existence?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. The CIA is necessary. A nation like a person can not effectively act without intelligence...

The CIA is necessary. A nation like a person can not effectively act without intelligence which includes an awareness of what is going on around us.

I just want them to act in a manner that upholds our ideals .

[dembotoz]

13. historically we have been caught with our pants down before..and while pants down is natural

for trump...the rest of us would prefer a better understanding of what is going on

[asiliveandbreathe]

15. This is not a challenge..if we cannot trust our own

intelligence - FBI/CIA/IC then what the hell are we to do...I welcome them and am waiting for them to unleash the information to save our democracy...

We are now walking into Syria..and wherever else this POS WANTS to take us..and we are being blinded by the crickets....