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Guess the ICE raids are working. I got a glossy postcard (Original Post) sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 OP
If there's something out there with guts, pluck, and a backbone... Girard442 Mar 2017 #1
+1000 sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #2
Had to LOL at that one... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #3
What you said. old guy Mar 2017 #4
Post of the day! Vinca Mar 2017 #5
You win the internet today! shraby Mar 2017 #6
That's awesome! We all need to use it! NT Ilsa Mar 2017 #9
DUzy! FSogol Mar 2017 #11
Hey-Oh! Iggo Mar 2017 #14
You know if they really wanted to end illegal immigration BainsBane Mar 2017 #7
+1000. But they've always refused that.. Hortensis Mar 2017 #13
Coal miners welcome safeinOhio Mar 2017 #8
Hard work man. That sort of work takes years off you, and exposes you to all sorts of crap. haele Mar 2017 #10
Shit's gonna get real. We have big Turkey processing MineralMan Mar 2017 #12
You sound almost Republican the way you understate the Hortensis Mar 2017 #16
Wow! Let's see here . . . $12.75 x eight hours x five days a week x 52 .. . . . hatrack Mar 2017 #15

BainsBane

(53,027 posts)
7. You know if they really wanted to end illegal immigration
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 02:53 PM
Mar 2017

They would focus on employers. It would be far less expensive and far more effective.

haele

(12,646 posts)
10. Hard work man. That sort of work takes years off you, and exposes you to all sorts of crap.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:35 PM
Mar 2017

Laz worked a chicken processing plant for two years. Five years later, he had developed an auto-immune disorder, arthritis, all sorts of nasty, little crap pains and deterioration that could be linked back to the work and the chemicals - especially the cleaning chemicals - that he was exposed to.

He said most of the men and women who worked that plant lasted at most 10 years before they got to the point they couldn't work any sort of manual labor any more.
Since this was one of the two (now three) major employer in a small southern county, everyone knew people who were on or were filing for disability after they worked there. It was also the "last choice" employer for most of the employees, even if the hours were reliable and the pay and benefits were around $2.00 an hour better than Walmart or Hardees.


Haele

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
12. Shit's gonna get real. We have big Turkey processing
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:45 PM
Mar 2017

plants here in Minnesota, too. It's almost exclusively a job taken by immigrants, many of whom are undocumented.

Nasty, hard work, at best, and at pay that is far lower than it should be. All so, we can buy cheap turkey in the supermarket. And we won't buy it unless it's cheap, because turkey is not a favorite food for most people.

They're gonna have a hard time finding people to fill those jobs, especially if working conditions don't change. Poultry processing plants are hellish places to work, and the supervisors are always on people to speed up the work. Work Faster!

Turkey prices will be going up for this year's holidays, I predict.

Here's a link to a very good story on working at a turkey processing plant:

http://www.slate.com/articles/business/the_grind/2016/11/turkey_plants_are_harsh_on_workers_in_the_weeks_before_thanksgiving.html

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
16. You sound almost Republican the way you understate the
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

nastiness of this work itself. Plus, these are "peripheral" labor market jobs often filled by POC and the "external labor market," so that even God presumably sanctions the exploitation and abuse, even poisoning, of the unworthies holding them.

As you can probably tell, I live in a big poultry state also, Georgia. Bible belt.

Even before this election, as jobs improved in Mexico especially, fewer "externals" were coming for these horrible jobs and other ag work. The good people in the state capital thought that would be a great time to ratchet up punitive laws against workers critical to state revenue to even more vicious levels. So already large numbers haven't been returning to their old jobs. And now this.

No doubt quick to be hurt, though, will also be the local, typically white Christian farmers who raise the chickens, who have already been systematically degraded from independent farmers to, I forget the word. They have no independence, their "farms" merely subcontracting points on a production belt strictly controlled by rules and instructions they have no say in, pretty much the same for what they're paid. Like all "peripheral" labor, they are exploited and paid far less than their contribution, but these former small independent farmers have absolutely no choice but to take it as long as they stay in the industry.

Well, more will change than the accents on the streets, that's for sure. But the transition is going to be very painful.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
15. Wow! Let's see here . . . $12.75 x eight hours x five days a week x 52 .. . . .
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

Yowza!! Starting pay would be . . . yuuge!

You could work full time and not take any time off and work for a full year, and you'd bring home $26,520 (before taxes, of course).

Twenty-six Thousand Five Hundred Twenty dolares!!!! All that, shitty health coverage (maybe) and some repetitive motion disorder, maybe?? Pretty please!!!!

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