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Attorney General Sessions has asked the remaining 46 U.S. Attorneys appointed by Obama to resign... (Original Post) HipChick Mar 2017 OP
Only Trump cultists need apply dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
Nope - he lied to the senate three times now- he gets to resign. bettyellen Mar 2017 #2
And Sessions is doing it boldly and openly. MineralMan Mar 2017 #3
That's the plan - purge them malaise Mar 2017 #5
Wow! Right before this, ACLU filed ethics complaint against Sessions Hortensis Mar 2017 #18
Both Bush and Clinton did the same thing. Pretty standard when President enough Mar 2017 #19
Actually, it is legal and normal. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #28
I thought this was true Dem2 Mar 2017 #40
I hope they all make him fire them!!! Dustlawyer Mar 2017 #45
LIke i keep saying, it is over. get the nukes...otherwise, forget it. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #51
Isn't that what GWBush did when he came in? vlyons Mar 2017 #4
He tried but got caught at it and had to change his game plan. shraby Mar 2017 #6
No. Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he came in, what Bush did... PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #11
No, he tried to do it halfway thru his term dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #29
And it got even more attention when it came out they fired the attorneys for not... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #42
And we thought that was most crooked thing possible dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #48
Does that include Preet Bharara? Renew Deal Mar 2017 #7
Yes, it does include him. HootieMcBoob Mar 2017 #39
The current purgerer should not be allowed to get rid of decent people. shraby Mar 2017 #8
FRIDAY NIGHT MASSACRE! Shades of Richard Milhous Nixon! n/m machoneman Mar 2017 #26
+1 Liberal In Texas Mar 2017 #34
They're political appointees SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2017 #9
Have link?? Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #10
NYT are reporting.. HipChick Mar 2017 #13
thank you Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #20
I knew this was coming .... But I couldn't find this being reported anywhere Nictuku Mar 2017 #12
I'm seeing some reports now Nictuku Mar 2017 #16
These are apoointees, not career investigators. Exilednight Mar 2017 #25
Not true....they are political appointees dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #30
Its customary for political appointees to resign drray23 Mar 2017 #14
Not all. 1/3 were not replaced. Nictuku Mar 2017 #17
Yet, maybe? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #33
It is customary, but Obama didn't replace all of them. I wish he had. n/t DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #22
THey had hearings on the new one T nominated on Tuesday. Rod Rosenstein. Amaryllis Mar 2017 #24
Link? nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #15
I actually don't have a huge problem with that, in the abstract. DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #21
The politicization of our Justice System troubles me a great deal Nictuku Mar 2017 #27
It would appear at least some were asked to be out by the end of the day! herding cats Mar 2017 #23
US Attorneys are political appointees. yallerdawg Mar 2017 #31
Does he have replacements yet, or is he going to do all the work himself? ;-( .. nt Ilsa Mar 2017 #32
EXACTLY. This will be interesting. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #36
As Nancy Reagan said, " Just say fuck no" world wide wally Mar 2017 #35
What happens if they refuse? littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #37
If they refuse to resign SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2017 #44
I would chain, tether myself to my desk. littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #58
SEE THIS is how REPUBLICANS OPERATE... yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #38
All the Democratic presidents did the exact same thing. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #53
Sure why not, lets make it a yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #55
Gee, you don't think the new ones will target Democrats, do you? orangecrush Mar 2017 #41
Let me get back to you on that.. HipChick Mar 2017 #47
... orangecrush Mar 2017 #49
Expect shit like this, only on steroids... orangecrush Mar 2017 #50
Yep... HipChick Mar 2017 #52
Announcement released Friday evening.... Binders Keepers Mar 2017 #43
FO russian stooge Cha Mar 2017 #46
Gleicschaltung - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #54
Can they just say no? -nt Bradical79 Mar 2017 #56
I have often wondered about this. ManiacJoe Mar 2017 #57

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
3. And Sessions is doing it boldly and openly.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

The Justice Department will be completely compromised by this sort of thing. Same with every other Executive department and agency, I have no doubt.

Damn them!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Wow! Right before this, ACLU filed ethics complaint against Sessions
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

over his communications with the Russian ambassador. But this a good distraction. Timing a coincidence?

Remember the scandal when Bush fired 8 because they wouldn't pursue political prosecutions of Democrats and other such accommodations? Far too much happening for this to be that huge. Have to wait for corrupt, politically motivated prosecutions, and refusals to prosecute.

enough

(13,256 posts)
19. Both Bush and Clinton did the same thing. Pretty standard when President
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:42 PM
Mar 2017

takes office succeeding a President from the opposite party.

From Wikipedia:

By tradition, U.S. Attorneys are replaced only at the start of a new White House administration. U.S. Attorneys hold a "political" office, and therefore they are considered to "serve at the pleasure of the President." At the beginning of a new presidential administration, it is traditional for all 93 U.S. Attorneys to submit a letter of resignation. When a new President is from a different political party, almost all of the resignations will be eventually accepted.[11] The attorneys are then replaced by new political appointees, typically from the new President's party.[12][12][13] Despite this, their political impartiality in deciding which cases to prosecute and in arguing those cases before judges and juries with diverse views is essential.[14]

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
28. Actually, it is legal and normal.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:15 PM
Mar 2017

Remember we discovered that during the USA AG scandal of 2008?
when Gonzales tried to fire 7 specific attorneys in the middle of Bush's term?
and it was pointed out that
"By tradition, U.S. Attorneys are replaced only at the start of a new White House administration.
U.S. Attorneys hold a "political" office, and therefore they are considered to "serve at the pleasure of the President."
At the beginning of a new presidential administration, it is traditional for all 93 U.S. Attorneys to submit a letter of resignation. When a new President is from a different political party, almost all of the resignations will be eventually accepted.
The attorneys are then replaced by new political appointees, typically from the new President's party"

This is from Wiki, but it is a valid entry.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
40. I thought this was true
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:35 PM
Mar 2017

Glad that I withheld an opinion until I was certain this was business as usual.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
51. LIke i keep saying, it is over. get the nukes...otherwise, forget it.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:44 PM
Mar 2017

Coup is happening, I wish there was a way to stop it, there isnt given liberals and patriots are non violent

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
11. No. Clinton fired 93 US attorneys when he came in, what Bush did...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:26 PM
Mar 2017

and which generated controversy was a midterm firing of some US attorneys. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. No, he tried to do it halfway thru his term
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:16 PM
Mar 2017

at it got attention because it is normally done only at beginning of a new term.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,324 posts)
42. And it got even more attention when it came out they fired the attorneys for not...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:40 PM
Mar 2017

... playing ball and prosecuting Democrats for bullshit trumped up charges.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
48. And we thought that was most crooked thing possible
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:07 PM
Mar 2017

till now.
I blame shrub's voters for letting his bar lowering ass into the WH.....

What does it say about the mentality of this country as a whole which put Trump even into the race????

HootieMcBoob

(3,823 posts)
39. Yes, it does include him.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:32 PM
Mar 2017

According to MSNBC it does include him. Apparently, he was surprised because he says he was told by Trump during the campaign that he would be kept on.

Nictuku

(3,601 posts)
12. I knew this was coming .... But I couldn't find this being reported anywhere
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:27 PM
Mar 2017

... do you have a link? Where did you hear this?

Nictuku

(3,601 posts)
16. I'm seeing some reports now
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:38 PM
Mar 2017

I remember when Bush did the big purge of US Attorneys, and there was a big deal made of it because these people are usually considered career officials.

I found a link discussing the issue: https://thinkprogress.org/feinstein-u-s-attorneys-are-not-political-appointees-f8e86001d685#.qr7bph3kp

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
25. These are apoointees, not career investigators.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:05 PM
Mar 2017

Bush purged career employees, not political appointees.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
30. Not true....they are political appointees
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:18 PM
Mar 2017

AND it is normal to replace them when a new party comes into the White House.

By tradition, U.S. Attorneys are replaced only at the start of a new White House administration. U.S. Attorneys hold a "political" office, and therefore they are considered to "serve at the pleasure of the President."
At the beginning of a new presidential administration, it is traditional for all 93 U.S. Attorneys to submit a letter of resignation. When a new President is from a different political party, almost all of the resignations will be eventually accepted.
The attorneys are then replaced by new political appointees, typically from the new President's party


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dismissal_of_U.S._attorneys_controversy

drray23

(7,627 posts)
14. Its customary for political appointees to resign
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

When president Obama took over, all the ag were replaced. Same for previous presidents. The fact it did not happen earlier is probably because the Trump administration wanted them to stay since they have troubles staffing up.


Now this raises the interesting case of dana boente who is the deputy ag. He replaced yates when she was fired. Boente was appointed by President Obama.

If he has to go , the Trump admin will have an interesting problem. Session recused himself from the russian investigation case. The deputy ag is supposed to take over. Wonder who that will be ??

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
21. I actually don't have a huge problem with that, in the abstract.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

If we have a Democrat in the White House and a reasonable Attorney General, there is no reason he or she should be required to have some Republican appointee stay on the job. Unfortunately President Obama tried to be reasonable and bipartisan and he did let a lot of wing nut Bush US Attorneys stay on the job.

Nictuku

(3,601 posts)
27. The politicization of our Justice System troubles me a great deal
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:11 PM
Mar 2017

... as I just read when looking into this, Bill Clinton did replace all of them, and Reagan before him. Prior to that I didn't find much.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
23. It would appear at least some were asked to be out by the end of the day!
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 04:51 PM
Mar 2017


Jonathan Martin‏ @jmartNYT
One Dem member of congress tells me US Attys in this member's state being told "to be out by COB today"

Maggie Haberman‏ @maggieNYT
The DoJ is asking United States Attorneys to submit resignations immediately, standard practice for POTUSes,but occurring w sudden scramble
https://mobile.twitter.com/jmartNYT/status/840296662656569344


Why the frenzied rush all of a sudden?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
31. US Attorneys are political appointees.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:28 PM
Mar 2017

Judges are political appointees.

Where did we ever get the notion "justice is blind"?

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
35. As Nancy Reagan said, " Just say fuck no"
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 05:57 PM
Mar 2017

Make them spend time and energy getting you to leave.
Keeps them from effecting the rest of us as much.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
38. SEE THIS is how REPUBLICANS OPERATE...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:31 PM
Mar 2017

They Remove all the DEMOCRATS so only REPUBLICANS can rule. 共和党員は地獄に行く!

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
53. All the Democratic presidents did the exact same thing.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:10 PM
Mar 2017

There is nothing special going on here. It is common practice for both parties.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
55. Sure why not, lets make it a
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 09:12 PM
Mar 2017

PURE party, than we can blame them for all the shit they do, not that they would give a flying crap about any of it.

orangecrush

(19,510 posts)
41. Gee, you don't think the new ones will target Democrats, do you?
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 06:39 PM
Mar 2017

... You know, mine for detrimental info, wiretaps, Tommy Chong, etc. ....





orangecrush

(19,510 posts)
49. ...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:20 PM
Mar 2017

Railroaded by Bush appointed feederal prosecutor Mary Beth Buchanan out of Pittsburgh, Pa.

Tommy went to jail because they threatened to jail his family, as part of a plea bargain.

orangecrush

(19,510 posts)
50. Expect shit like this, only on steroids...
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 08:25 PM
Mar 2017

Nice Dreams had a policy in place for refusing to sell bongs to states where the statute was being enforced. Federal agents, disguised as head-shop owners, pressured Paris Chong to sell them his pipes and deliver them through the mail to a fictitious shop in the Pittsburgh suburb of Beaver Falls, Pennsylvania. When Paris persistently refused, agents went to the place of business in person and ordered a massive quantity of out of stock merchandise. The merchandise was crafted but not picked up and sat idle in the warehouse as federal agents again pressured Paris to ship it. To get the merchandise out of his warehouse, Paris eventually agreed to ship it. In a Plea bargain, Chong agreed to plead guilty to one count of conspiracy to distribute drug paraphernalia in exchange for non-prosecution of his wife, Shelby, and his son, Paris. Federal Prosecution admitted to being harsher on Chong in retaliation, citing Chong's movies as trivializing "law enforcement efforts to combat drug trafficking and use."[3


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Pipe_Dreams

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
57. I have often wondered about this.
Fri Mar 10, 2017, 11:37 PM
Mar 2017

Why resign?
Why not force them to fire you? Collect unemployment insurance?

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