Sen Stabenow (D-Mich): If he came to Michigan to campaign for this plan? I think it'd be terrific

[kpete]

The three-phase Republican plan to replace the Affordable Care Act is intended to end with massive political pressure on Senate Democrats, who’ll face a choice: Vote with them on individual replacement bills, or be blamed for the American Health Care Act’s implementation going awry. The crux of the theory is that 10 Democrats face reelection next year in states won by Trump.

The problem with the theory is that those Democrats feel little pressure to vote Trump’s way.

“If he came to Michigan to campaign for this plan? I think it’d be terrific,” said Sen. Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) at a Thursday news conference. “We’d welcome him to come to Michigan, and talk to the people who with all sincerity voted for him because they thought he was going to make their lives better. Let him talk about what happens when they lose health care, and when their parents lose health care.”

In the past, presidents trying to build support for their first-term agendas have reached out to the opposition party; when that’s failed, they’ve campaigned in their states. During his unsuccessful 2005 pitch for Social Security privatization, President George W. Bush flew into states like Nebraska, still represented by Democrats in the Senate, with the not-so-subtle suggestion that rejecting the presidential agenda would come with risks.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/03/11/trump-stumping-for-ahca-democrats-arent-worried/?utm_term=.1f1998f90798
https://www.balloon-juice.com/2017/03/11/saturday-morning-open-thread-make-it-so-cute/#comments

[Cha]

1. KR

[still_one]

2. First of all he won't be coming to Michigan. Second, Hillary lost Michigan by .3%. Jill Stein

received 1.1% of the vote. Those that voted third party or didn't vote what did they expect? Trump promised he would get rid of the ACA, and that is exactly what he is doing. So those who voted third party, or didn't vote, will not be blameless for those who lose their healthcare under the republican plan.

Elections have consequences, and it wasn't just those that voted for trump, it was also those that refused to vote for Hillary by either voting third party, or not voting. If they have anyone to complain to, they should first look in the mirror

[oberliner]

4. He said he would get rid of Obamacare, not the ACA

A lot of his voters do not realize they are the same thing.

[still_one]

5. ignorance is not an excuse in my view Obe, and those who voted for Jill Stein certainly knew they

were the same thing

[George II]

10. I think it was Jimmy Kimmel who did a series of on the street interviews of people...

....asking them if they had a choice, would they choose Obamacare of the ACA. Just about every one (at least the ones that were shown on air) said the ACA definitely. How stupid or ignorant is the average person on the street?

Reminds me, years ago someone did a survey of 100 people about some very basic things - the one that stands out is that only 25 knew whose bust was on the quarter!!!!

[GWC58]

17. Many in this nation should have to wear a

Dunce cap!🤡😜

[mopinko]

6. dont you think it time to move on?

we have bigger fish to fry than jill stein, may that traitor rot in hell too.

[still_one]

8. I was specifically addressing an exception to the OPs point that it wasn't

only those who voted for him, but also those who didn't vote, or voted third party.

In fact I would say it was those who didn't vote or voted third party that had the most impact, and would be the most likely to vote Democratic in 2018 or 2020, than those who voted for trump, because I believe those who voted for trump do not have the self-realization that they were voting against their own interests.

Approximately 23-25% of the voting public voted for trump, and the other 23-25% voted for Hillary. It was the 47% who didn't vote, and the 3 - 5% who voted third party that will determine 2018 and 2020.

[coco22]

7. Third,our votes weren't counted..

or were thrown out due to incompetence by our elected officials.

[still_one]

9. That is a very valid point. Still I believe our best hope is convincing

third party voters, and those that didn't vote, for 2016 and 2020

In my view the majority of those that voted for Trump were either motivated because he carried the republican label, or because of their underlying prejudice. Those voters I don't believe will change their views in 2018 or 2020.

[Merlot]

12. The votes weren't thrown out by incompetence

In fact, throwing away democratic votes is a large and well thought out plan.

CrossCheck threw away enough votes to deliver the presidency to HC 4 times.

[mountain grammy]

15. Yes, there's that too..

Michigan was rigged. I'll never believe anything else.

[coco22]

18. I was mad as hell,I never miss a vote..

I saved it to the last minute and took it in person..

[truebluegreen]

16. Very helpful.

[Barack_America]

3. I'd certainly be there to "welcome" him.

[DeminPennswoods]

11. The GOP strategists must be dim bulbs

All Dems need to do to counter this "strategy" is offer a bill that strikes the age restriction in Medicare and, voila, everyone is covered under Medicare. Then the Republicans in the senate can decide if they want to vote against that, a simple healthcare system or keep their convoluted ACA replacement.

[Merlot]

13. Ha, that's to easy!

Politicians seem to like these insurance plans with all kinds of tax credits, subsidies, and arbitrary rules. Keeps every one confused enough and fighting about the wrong things.

Kind of like fighting about what causes climate change instead of fighting about solutions.

[sarcasmo]

14. Debbie worried about her job, F-that. Vote against this idiot Every time.