trump going down? Ain't gonna happen.

[Comatose Sphagetti]

The gop controls the senate, house and presidency. Scandals, graft, corruption, major illegalities - no matter how devastating, obvious and harmful - the gop/trump and their idiot hordes don't care. Get it? THEY. DON'T. CARE!!! It's their dream come true and they will NEVER give it up.

Grasping at straws and hoping the next scandal fells trump is useless. He isn't going anywhere.

[FreepFryer]

1. Oh NOES! Jump overboard! Give it up! Roll over! FYI: DISCOURAGERS ONLY ENCOURAGE US (n/t)

[caroldansen]

27. Youre wrong. If he is found guilty of a felony hes gone. Hiding money outside the united states

In order to avoid paying taxes on it is a felony.

[caroldansen]

28. Yes.That is a felony.

[caroldansen]

29. Yes. That is a felony.

[FreepFryer]

37. What are you on about? You seem to misunderstand my post thoroughly. (n/t)

[mrs_p]

2. Maybe not

But sitting idly by and not do or say anything seems wrong.

What is your solution?

[Comatose Sphagetti]

6. Solution?

Fight, scratch, gouge, claw, obfuscate, deny, block, delay, demoralize, demean... In other words, use the gops tactics against them. Do any and all to register disbelief this bullshit is happening.

This is what we are doing now.

Do I believe any of the above or rallies, marches, speeches, pissed-off tv and twitter responses by democrats and liberals will get trump out of the white house?

No.

[brush]

3. We all have opinions. No thanks for yours. Enjoy your stay.

[Saboburns]

36. The OP is telling us to fight harder

Not that Trump is infallible.

Im sorry but i feel the same way. And when I mention that we arent fighting hard enough I get the same treatment you gave the OP.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE KICKING OUR ASSES. They have all 3 branches of Government and elected a known clown President. We are not winning. we are not fighting hard enough.

[brush]

41. Like I said, we all have opinions. One of mine is not putting up with negativity preachers

People on this site know we're up against it.

We're not rolling over and giving up and definitely don't need nickel and dime reverse psychology.

[Saboburns]

42. Fair enough

As for myself I think I hate Donald Trump too much. (If thats possible) And I gnash my teeth in regards to him, his Fanboys, and Republicans in general. I get frustrated and think (and say) that we arent figyting hard enough. Thats my reaction, and sometimes my over-reaction to his clownishness. I am frlustered and frustrated that this man was elected President of the United States.

[elleng]

4. Thanks for nothing.

RNC on Ossoff race: We must protect our majority at all costs or risk getting Pres Trump impeached.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028780806

[Kingofalldems]

5. Doing yeoman's work there.

[Jonny Appleseed]

7. It'll end up being a pseudo-coup once things get really bad

They'll be forced to impeach rather than face a full coup because the generals refuse to send troops into Mexico and the CIA can expose the corruption of individual congressmen and senators that can't escape prosecution.

[cilla4progress]

8. Hey don't act jerky

Haven't we all felt hopeless and desperate from time to time lately? It's Saturday night. Cut some slack.

I feel you... "Sphagetti"?

[Comatose Sphagetti]

9. I know...

spelled it wrong.

[58Sunliner]

17. LOL.

[coco22]

10. He is going down...

one way or the other.

[The Wielding Truth]

18. He is so deep into it that he will be swallowed by it.

[Scruffy1]

11. Rats will flee a sinking ship.

It won't be congress, but the weight of the crimes piling up. The US media is pretty docile, but you can't stop foreign intelligence in this age of rapid worldwide communication. When the idiot finally comes down, they will be looking for a life raft. No things will not get better because anyone in the Republican leadership is just as bad or worse, but it could spell doom at the polls in 2018.

[Cosmocat]

31. Honestly, that is the last stand

There is going to be a L O T of damage done by then, and if this country does not find it within itself to hit the hail mary of either getting the house against the long odds of beating the gerrymanding or the senate, beating the long odds of the extraordinarily small number of R seats up vs Ds seats up, they will see that as validation and keep pushing forward.

[pressbox69]

12. That's what they said

about Nixon and Agnew until they were ripped out of the White House by real Americans. Republicans need to see how easily the majority can turn against them. Even the 1% doesn't win all the time. All they have to do is ask Czar Nicholas.

[Comatose Sphagetti]

13. You have to understand...

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Conservatives in power and their idiot hordes DO NOT CARE. Even if they are negatively affected, even if trump gets us into nuclear war, his supporters will not, CANNOT, see it as having to do with their choice.

Cannot because this has nothing to do with logic or morals or values (why would christians vote for a pussy grabber/disabled mocker? They wouldn't). This is a psychological issue. Rationalization, delusion, denial, selfishness, anger and fear run deep with trump voters. And any catastrophe cannot be the result of their choices... their psychosis demands it be the fault of another.

[cilla4progress]

19. I completely agree

I stupidly got into a convo with one a couple weeks ago. It was mind bending. Not in a good way.

[Cosmocat]

32. Look

I have been telling people this here for years, and I throw my share of cold water on things regularly.

But, this a place where people actually see what is going on and care.

Gotta allow the hail mary.

[gordianot]

14. The information is out there they know it.

Give it some time after all there is a swamp and it is getting deeper and will not be drained quickly. I think Trump may well end up draining the swamp, he used a bad analogy.

[Hamlette]

15. While I think Trump will be in office for 4 years, we might take back congress (one house?)

And and do think we can have a an influence on legislation.

If I didn't believe at least that much, I couldn't keep going.

[MFM008]

16. I dont think he will live that long

something tells me he is NOT the healthiest man ever to hold the office.

[smirkymonkey]

20. He'll go down.

Maybe not right away, but he will go down.

[NanceGreggs]

21. Oh, he is going down, my friend.

The GOP couldn't give a shit less about the country, or their fellow citizens.

They would fuck their own mothers live on TV if their constituents thought mother-fucking was a plus, and voted accordingly.

They would sell their own children into sex-slavery, and post videos of their torture on YouTube if it meant getting votes.

They would publicly worship Satan if got the Satan-worshipers to the polls to vote GOP.

But what they WON'T do is stand behind anyone who "tarnishes their brand" to the point of jeopardizing their chances of re-election - and the mid-terms are looming.

Keep in mind that Pence was their first choice - so it's not like Trump going down is a problem. It is in fact a blessing, and gets them the pResident they wanted all along. Therefore, Trump's downfall serves their purposes.

The GOP are notorious for turning on their own when politically expedient - and Trump was never "one of their own" to begin with, so there is no party loyalty he can rely on to save his skin.

While the PTB in the Democratic Party want Trump OUT, the PTB in the GOP are equally anxious to be rid of him.

Trump's "presidency" is less than two months old, and it's already mired in more scandal than any other administration has had to deal with over the course of years in office. Somehow I don't see the Republicans
risking their "brand" in order to support the guy they never wanted in the first place.

[Comatose Sphagetti]

23. This -

"But what they WON'T do is stand behind anyone who "tarnishes their brand" to the point of jeopardizing their chances of re-election - and the mid-terms are looming."

- is beautiful and well reasoned. But:

How does one "tarnish the brand" of a party whose constituents gleefully elected a demonstrably unstable sociopath?

There is no bridge too far. There is no ultimate outrage for the idiot hordes. They may go down in flames by their own hand (taking us with them), but they will be cursing the names Obama and Clinton.

[Kablooie]

24. Not while the press focuses on Trump's continual stream of scandals ...

which draws attention away from all the Republican bills being passed which are designed to dismantle our democracy.

He could well remain as a useful, radioactive, glowing shield for them during the full 4 years.

[Cosmocat]

33. YEP

this is part of the math right now.

I would also note that for all of their chest beating and bravado, they are cowardly little fucks.

He brow beat them in the primary, see EVERY single of his opponents who he shit on during their campaigns ultimately being forced to take a knee to him.

It isn't one thing, but he has effectively castigated them, he serves as someone to take the bullets, he creates so much chaos it takes the heat off of them, etc.

[58Sunliner]

22. Thanks Comatose.

[Demonaut]

25. Yeah,, Thanks!...it makes the challenge more interesting and ultimately more satisfying!

[Warpy]

26. Oh, it will happen

but they really do want to get 2 years out of him so they can decrease as many regulations and destroy as many regulatory agencies as they can, the corporatist dream. Then they'll let the Democrats who take over get rid of him so they can live on spite the way they did after Nixon got shitcanned. They really think they can hold onto the presidency for the next 10 years with whatever replaces Dolt45.

Pence has a lot of problems, so he might do an Agnew and disappear to be replaced by a more affable yes man.

Considering how thoroughly they're going to foul things up, I sincerely doubt they'll get power again for a while---unless the Democrats throw it away with both hands the way they did with Carter, fighting him tooth and nail on everything.

[sellitman]

30. Our hope is the next election

He wants us to spend time concentrating on him. We need to spend the time mobilizing for the mid terms IMHO. The pukes will not Impeach him.

I agree with the poster.

Go after the mid terms that will stop the bastards.

[no_hypocrisy]

34. Depends.

If the lips of Congress are firmly attached to Trump's rump and enough Trump voters turn against them, the republicans will throw away Trump and accept Pence as a reasonable replacement.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

35. Walking around with a "Kick Me" sign on your ass is no way to live.

[FreepFryer]

38. THIS x1000! These 'everybody be discouraged!' posts aren't discouraging ANYONE. (n/t)

[KingCharlemagne]

39. What is the purpose of this OP? - nt

[FreepFryer]

40. good question. (n/t)

[Justice]

43. Their dream come true is turning into their nightmare.

They don't know how to govern.