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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 12:51 PM Mar 2017

If we show alarm about Russia it means we want war?

It means we support the USA military provocation and build up?

I am so sick of this meme.
It seems to be rampant out there that if anyone is against Russia then we must want war.
Why is it like this? Why can't we critique the Russian system of governance without being accused of wanting to revive the Cold War and military build up?

Here's a classic example of an interview with no mention of:

* a free press
* LGBTQ rights
* free and fair elections
* environmental protection
*'civil rights
* etc...

You know, all the issues Russian leadership abhors and so does Trump.


Adversarial Relationship With Russia Result of Decades of US Provocation




http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=18594

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dalton99a

(81,466 posts)
1. I don't see a lot of U.S. planes buzzing Russian ships, or American cops harassing Russian diplomats
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 12:54 PM
Mar 2017

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. +1, "you want war" is a common winger position now on mixed forums. Its their go to response...
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 12:54 PM
Mar 2017

... when someone says what Russia did was an act of war (which it is).

My response is Benedict Donald wont go to war against his master Vlad

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
5. It started as an anti Hillary meme, and never made sense to me. It migrated to the RW to provide
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:02 PM
Mar 2017

Cover for the DTs bizarre fondness for Putin.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
6. They're trying to rot us from the inside, I pray we got some patriots in the US gov with courage ...
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:05 PM
Mar 2017

... otherwise we're fucked proper.

TRMS is letting us know by no uncertain terms Benedict Donald is wrapped too tight with Vlad

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. Who is TRMS? I just watched an interview w Dimitry Peskov who worked closely w Putin for 20 years..
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:29 PM
Mar 2017

Oh it's still on Fareed Zakaria... BRB

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
8. He said the USA is "self humiliating" by claiming Russia could disrupt their election-
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:32 PM
Mar 2017

Total psy-ops bullshit. He also just did a total white wash over how popular and special Putin in. That was creepy.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
9. I see it all the time too...they were saying this around here before the electoral college too
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

THEY want the war, when they colluded with a hostile foreign government.

KPN

(15,643 posts)
3. Not to mention that the right has actually always pushed
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

aggression against Russia in the past -- especially during Obama's presidency. They are so friggin' duplicitous!

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. Yes, it's just another ploy by the GOP
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

Either or fallacy. Put us on the defensive and distract. Make us seem like the bad guys. We need to call it what is is, a logical fallacy.

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