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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:40 PM Mar 2017

Please god let this be true about Flynn

Michael Flynn is absolutely screwing Donald Trump and Mike Pence, and he doesn’t care


when Michael Flynn retroactively registered a foreign agent this week, he set off a bomb within the Trump-Russia scandal. Flynn is now coming clean about the half a million dollars he took from a Turkish government intermediary, and when he took it. In the process he’s indirectly exposed the fact that Donald Trump and Mike Pence both knew Flynn was on the take from a hostile foreign government at the time they made him National Security Adviser.

Worse, Flynn has exposed that Trump and Pence both lied about it to the public.
Even worse than that, it’s blown apart the claim that Flynn was forced out because he lied to Pence about his phone calls with the Russian Ambassador.
Pence can no longer believably paint himself as this put-upon innocent character who had no idea Flynn was a dirty rat until he read about it in the headlines.
If Pence lied to the American public about knowing Flynn was dirty on Turkey, then it’s a reasonable assumption that Pence lied about knowing Flynn was dirty on Russia as well.
Just how much did Mike Pence know about the Russia scandal at the time? And so as bad as this is for Trump, it may be worse for Pence.

t still begs the question of why Michael Flynn is suddenly doing this. By registering now as a foreign agent, he’s admitting he broke the law by not registering while he was on the take. He’s voluntarily implicating himself in a past crime in an attempt to now get himself on the right side of the law. You know who does that? Someone who’s listening to his lawyer. And you know what else lawyers tell their guilty clients? Flip on your bosses and sing like a canary in exchange for leniency or immunity. Flynn is already Trump and Pence’s worst nightmare – and it’s just getting started.
http://www.palmerreport.com/opinion/michael-flynn-is-absolutely-screwing-donald-trump-and-mike-pence-and-he-doesnt-care/1892/


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Please god let this be true about Flynn (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 OP
K&R 2naSalit Mar 2017 #1
Perhaps Flynn doesn't care because he knows that all of the GOP doesn't care. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #2
I'm in that camp n/t hibbing Mar 2017 #12
He is trying to stay out of jail. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #60
And remember, we don't have any U.S. Attorneys at the present time either. Stonepounder Mar 2017 #19
So we know the strumpers have tried to eviscerate the executive branch erronis Mar 2017 #28
Silence implies consent vlyons Mar 2017 #57
Milo showed us how low you have to go for the GOP to abandon you. RainCaster Mar 2017 #63
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #3
Sing it Flynn. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #4
oh, palmerreport.... nevermind OKNancy Mar 2017 #5
Yup. Unfortunately ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #7
I like him big time - he seems good enough for Joy-Ann Reid and Howard Dean womanofthehills Mar 2017 #32
He repackages other people's reporting and adds his clickbait headlines oberliner Mar 2017 #44
This Stand and Fight Mar 2017 #75
Palmer Report? I go there every day RealityChik Mar 2017 #76
He never breaks any news oberliner Mar 2017 #84
I wondered about that. MelissaB Mar 2017 #11
He means well, but he is just so OTT OKNancy Mar 2017 #30
I disagree with you - womanofthehills Mar 2017 #38
thank you......I make sure to check out each of his sources in a story dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #71
you know we nudged Palmer off of here before..during the recount jodymarie aimee Mar 2017 #15
This. n/t Earth Bound Misfit Mar 2017 #86
Try the New York Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html?_ TXCritter Mar 2017 #90
I have yet to find a reason to trust Palmer Report. butdiduvote Mar 2017 #6
What has he written about this scandal in the last month The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #25
Good question. Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #34
Start following him everyday womanofthehills Mar 2017 #39
I think he leaves stuff out. LisaM Mar 2017 #83
How about this, then? TXCritter Mar 2017 #91
I can't wait for Groper Don the Con to sing malaise Mar 2017 #8
President Paul Ryan? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #9
I know....that is the devil-ish choice. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #72
Being a foreign agent is enough TexasProgresive Mar 2017 #10
They may be a part of Nato sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #18
That doesn't make Turkey a hostile TexasProgresive Mar 2017 #33
Trump has little to fear here. Flynn is obviously for sale while having little credibility. Jarqui Mar 2017 #13
Whether or not the palmerreport has credibility, the premise of the post does. shraby Mar 2017 #14
If you click on the palmerreport actual link - you will see blue highlights you need to click on womanofthehills Mar 2017 #46
That's because it comes from other people's reporting oberliner Mar 2017 #68
Yes please Faux pas Mar 2017 #16
Dems needs to zentrum Mar 2017 #17
Yes erpowers Mar 2017 #41
I post every palmerreport on my Facebook page womanofthehills Mar 2017 #47
Adam Schiff klebean Mar 2017 #103
omg it's fitzmas ..... again Ohioblue22 Mar 2017 #20
We should have an answer in about 24 business hours. n/t trotsky Mar 2017 #100
sure, but who is going to prosecute him, sessions? nt tomp Mar 2017 #21
Pence. Now nominated as most maligned VP since Spiro Agnew nt Xipe Totec Mar 2017 #22
Fingers crossed lillypaddle Mar 2017 #23
This is very good. PatrickforO Mar 2017 #24
TRMS confirmed the same story on Friday. Looks really bad for Pence & tRump ffr Mar 2017 #26
I saw her show as well. This is all true. n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2017 #37
Rachel is doing some STELLAR work on the Russian connection NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #73
Except those in power don't care. Haven't you figured it out? Drahthaardogs Mar 2017 #27
If not registering as a foreign agent is against the law, Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #29
It's felony is all I know. womanofthehills Mar 2017 #48
Makes sense. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #51
He is getting some of the shit off himself so his immunity pleas goes better randr Mar 2017 #31
Payback erpowers Mar 2017 #35
Yep. Guys like Flynn, Trump and Pence are really only out for themselves. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #43
For Trump loyalty is a one-way street. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #70
Maybe Flynn is trying to keep from getting Caponed by the IRS. displacedtexan Mar 2017 #36
I tend to think it's about money, too. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #79
When is all this going to make a difference? bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #40
The Palmer Report is literally a guy in his basement oberliner Mar 2017 #42
He's been right on and has his own reporters now too womanofthehills Mar 2017 #50
No, he hasn't oberliner Mar 2017 #54
Yes he has -LATEST FROM PALMER REPORT - MORE DETAILS womanofthehills Mar 2017 #65
No, he hasn't oberliner Mar 2017 #67
Then look for confirmation like here -- TXCritter Mar 2017 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author TXCritter Mar 2017 #93
Yes, the NY Times is an actual news source oberliner Mar 2017 #96
He might want to take out a bit more life insurance.. Hulk Mar 2017 #45
Palmer and Rachael both worry me womanofthehills Mar 2017 #52
While Turkey isn't technically a "hostile foreign government" annabanana Mar 2017 #49
the guy behind (or not behind )the failed coup, Gulen, has a weird kind of story - known as kind of womanofthehills Mar 2017 #56
This story, and the Turkey Coup attempt, and Flynn ... have 'The Family' written ALL OVER THEM ... mr_lebowski Mar 2017 #87
Don't count on a skunk like Flynn to burn potential financial bridges. nt oasis Mar 2017 #53
I always wondered who would be the first rat to snitch on Trump. vlyons Mar 2017 #55
Plus Flynn seems the less stable of them all - remember the arabic signs he said were in Mexico womanofthehills Mar 2017 #64
Purge Pence first. Ryan will decline. He wants 2020/24. Doesn't want to be short term Ford (74-76). Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #58
No...he is trying to stay out of jail...it is illegal to take money as he did without registering as Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #59
IMO, Was Flynn just a carrier of money or was it his money for services. CK_John Mar 2017 #61
supposedly he ran a "sort of" company called the Flynn Intel Groop womanofthehills Mar 2017 #66
Why this? "And so as bad as this is for Trump, it may be worse for Pence." ? Amaryllis Mar 2017 #62
I wondered the same thing. How does that mean Pence knew? Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #80
Pence said he did not know about Flynn until Flynn told him last month. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #97
Still dont get why worse for Pence. P and Trump both lied. Amaryllis Mar 2017 #99
I just posted why, in detail, pls see below, my #97 reply....n/t dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #98
When he went and got himself a lawyer... kentuck Mar 2017 #69
They all know every dirty detail AC_Mem Mar 2017 #74
Nice!!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2017 #77
"Hostile Foreign Government" madville Mar 2017 #78
Flynn give in to his inner vindictiveness ? hmmm... nocalflea Mar 2017 #81
45 faces Compromise possibilities due to non-divestiture MedusaX Mar 2017 #82
Amen, dixiegrrrrl. Flynn strikes me as an angry SOB with a massive grudge.... Hekate Mar 2017 #85
Two Questions I would like to have answered, which might make things clearer OnDoutside Mar 2017 #88
We need dirt on Pence for when Don the Con resigns the presidency. Nitram Mar 2017 #89
New York Times confirms Story TXCritter Mar 2017 #94
Doesn't Erdogan want a refund? not fooled Mar 2017 #95
I said day one, Pence was lying, was in on it. They all lie about everything. Remember that. Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #101
Loose Cannon C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #102

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
2. Perhaps Flynn doesn't care because he knows that all of the GOP doesn't care.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:51 PM
Mar 2017

With the GOP owning all of the federal government, there are no checks on their behavior by any (functioning) opposition, so Trumpy could be inviting Putin to the Oval office for a game of checkers and no one in the GOP would bat an eye. And that includes the King and Queen of Lip Service, McCain and Graham.

Flynn doesn't care because the GOP doesn't care. They REFUSE to object, they refuse to investigate.

As the WP printed last night, the GOP is enabling Russia's incursion into the US government.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
28. So we know the strumpers have tried to eviscerate the executive branch
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 03:47 PM
Mar 2017

And the legislative branch is full of corruption.
The judicial branch is in severe jeopardy.

Does that leave the civil branch (the people)?

Is the military (under executive) able to keep reason?
What will the military do when the Russki's start some obviously antagonistic actions against this country?
Will the bunkers of the GOP and the Wall Street elite protect them in the long term?
I'll stay tuned as long as I can (internets and radio waves permitting.)

RainCaster

(10,868 posts)
63. Milo showed us how low you have to go for the GOP to abandon you.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

It involves little boys and public disclosure of same...

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
32. I like him big time - he seems good enough for Joy-Ann Reid and Howard Dean
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:16 PM
Mar 2017

He is right on what is happening each day and he posts links to where the stories are coming from. What made you stop liking him? He is on our side and we need every reporter we can get.



Hi, I’m Bill Palmer. I’m the creator of Palmer Report. I’m a political journalist who covered the 2016 election cycle from start to finish. Now my editorial staff and I are reporting on the political aftermath.

As the publisher of an independent news site, I can affirm all of the following: Every one of our articles includes supporting source links for independent verification. If you’re not familiar with Palmer Report, you can use those links to confirm the accuracy of our reporting for yourself. We have no connection of any kind with any candidate, campaign, party, PAC, or any other political entity. We’re as independent as they come.

Thank You

Thank you to Congressman Ted Lieu for posting a Palmer Report article on the U.S. House of Representatives website.

Thank you to former Michigan Governor Jennifer Granholm for encouraging her constituents to read a Palmer Report article.

Thank you to NBC News legal analyst Lisa Bloom, Governor Howard Dean, MSNBC host Joy-Ann Reid, Pulitzer Prize winner Joyce Carol Oates, Mississippi State Representative Jeramy Anderson, Rosie O’Donnell, Mark Hamill, Wil Wheaton, Mira Sorvino, and Debra Messing for all sharing Palmer Report articles.
https://www.palmerreport.com/about/


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oberliner

(58,724 posts)
44. He repackages other people's reporting and adds his clickbait headlines
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017

Not a source to be taken seriously.

RealityChik

(382 posts)
76. Palmer Report? I go there every day
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 10:42 PM
Mar 2017

Yes, sometimes there's more of his opinion than there should be in some of his articles, but he breaks a lot of news before everybody else. It's often a good starter point on an issue, but I get validation from other sources before accepting as factual.

Raw Story used to be my first stop for breaking news, but since they went commercial 5 or so years ago, not so much. Palmer Report is now the very first stop on a long list of sources in my daily news chase.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
84. He never breaks any news
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 02:48 AM
Mar 2017

He uses other people's reporting in his articles (sometimes credited, sometimes not) and then throws in his own speculation.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
30. He means well, but he is just so OTT
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:13 PM
Mar 2017

He exaggerates and does sensational clickbait articles.
He's our version of Breitbart ( only with fewer readers)

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
38. I disagree with you -
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:21 PM
Mar 2017

I've been following him for a month and he has been right on. It sounds sensational because it is f**king sensational. He is reporting lots of the same Russia stuff that Rachael is reporting plus he has been giving links to where he is getting his stories - from reputable sites.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
71. thank you......I make sure to check out each of his sources in a story
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:57 PM
Mar 2017

and usually I can find at least 2
he seems to get info a day ahead of tv news....
plus his info is in one page, quick to read.

I agree with Nancy that sometimes his headlines are bit over done, but so far I have been able to understand a hell of a lot on what has turned out to be very fast developing events.

 

jodymarie aimee

(3,975 posts)
15. you know we nudged Palmer off of here before..during the recount
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 02:16 PM
Mar 2017

don't give him any clicks and he may go bye bye again....

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
34. Good question.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

Just because someone casually trashes a site doesn't make it suspect. I think he's often spot on.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
39. Start following him everyday
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:23 PM
Mar 2017

Has he reported anything in the past month you disagree with? He has been excellent!

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
83. I think he leaves stuff out.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 02:00 AM
Mar 2017

He's obviously biased. I don't think everything he writes is wrong but it's slanted. I double or triple check everything he says. Fitzmas every day with that guy, too.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. President Paul Ryan?
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:58 PM
Mar 2017

From bad to worse because Ryan is younger than Trump and more connected to the GOP establishment and their owners.

Recommended.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
72. I know....that is the devil-ish choice.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:59 PM
Mar 2017

Looks as if Pence is no better and may have enough on him to get him out...
and Ryan, if he is smart, will help with the push.
but then we got almost as bad.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
10. Being a foreign agent is enough
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 01:59 PM
Mar 2017

but when was Turkey desigated as a hostile foreign government? I thought the Turks were still part of NATO.

"...Donald Trump and Mike Pence both knew Flynn was on the take from a hostile foreign government..."

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
33. That doesn't make Turkey a hostile
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

We may not like him but we are still allies. I really miss journalist excellence that was the standard just a few years ago.

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
13. Trump has little to fear here. Flynn is obviously for sale while having little credibility.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 02:10 PM
Mar 2017

Trump, Putin and the GOP will just buy him off.

If he has a change of heart and somehow finds a conscience in that messed up, shallow conspiracy mind of his, they'll probably find him dead in a hotel room in Istanbul or somewhere like that.

If we had an honest justice department, we might have had some other criminal activity to look at but with the firing of the US Attorneys and Comey probably looking to the 2018 or 2020 election to see how he can sway that, I'm not very optimistic.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
14. Whether or not the palmerreport has credibility, the premise of the post does.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 02:15 PM
Mar 2017

I also think Flynn is flipping on the trump cabal. If he can keep his jail sentence to a minimum, what is there that would stop him?
Loyalty is obviously not one of his character attributes.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
46. If you click on the palmerreport actual link - you will see blue highlights you need to click on
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

the blue highlights will take you to other info to collaborate his report

The fact that Flynn just registered as a foreign agent, might mean they let him do this to avoid a felony if he talks.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. Dems needs to
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 02:28 PM
Mar 2017

...be shouting about this every day.

Both DT and Pence have lied to the country. Sessions lied under oath. The Dem leadership needs to show much more outrage and to be demanding press coverage of it by themselves creating press events. They have a type of bully pulpit and they need to be more fierce. Damnit!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
41. Yes
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:25 PM
Mar 2017

Not only do they need to talk about this everyday; they need to talk about all the other bad things coming out of the Trump Administration. They need to talk about the new rule that allows coal companies to dump waste into our waterways. They also need to talk about the rule that allows oil and gas companies to not disclose that they have bribed a foreign government. Democrats need to scream from the rooftops that Trump claimed he would get rid of corruption, but instead he has lead an administration that is promoting corruption.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
47. I post every palmerreport on my Facebook page
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:36 PM
Mar 2017

with lots of Raw Story posts because they have the best headlines to wake up the sleepers.

klebean

(284 posts)
103. Adam Schiff
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 08:46 PM
Mar 2017

He also does stand-up comedy. For real. He's my congress critter xxx

I laughed out loud when I heard Schiff on the TV say that Hair Twittler "deliberately made up wiretap charges, or more troubling, he believes it. Either way, I've not seen a shred of evidence."

Schiff has been speaking out every day, if not on Twitter, then in front of the TV cameras.
He's our liberal provocateur!

ffr

(22,669 posts)
26. TRMS confirmed the same story on Friday. Looks really bad for Pence & tRump
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 03:33 PM
Mar 2017

And it's getting worse, as these are serious allegations. Lying. Cover-up. Corruption. Breaches of national security with the knowledge of both the pResident and VP.

Enjoy the sound of what you're suspicious of.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
73. Rachel is doing some STELLAR work on the Russian connection
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:07 PM
Mar 2017

Nobody is connecting the dots as well as she is.

Drahthaardogs

(6,843 posts)
27. Except those in power don't care. Haven't you figured it out?
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

The GOP with the exception of a few just don't care.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
35. Payback
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

I do not think Michael Flynn registered as a foreign agent because his lawyer told him to do so. I think he did so because he is angry that Donald Trump and Mike Pence turned on him. Flynn may be looking for payback.

He likely thought since Trump and Pence knew he was working for Turkey and meeting with Russians during and after the election they were going to stick with him when it was proven that he had met with the Russian ambassador. The moment the truth came out both men acted as if they did not know what Flynn was doing, acted as if he had lied to them, and pushed him out of the administration, or allowed him to leave the administration.

We should remember how Trump raked Hillary Clinton over the coals for not sticking with Debbie Wasserman-Schultz during the DNC hacking scandal. Flynn likely thought Trump would stick with him since Trump made such a big deal over loyalty during the DNC hacking scandal. It has been said, Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned. I think the same thing can be said of men and friends. Sometimes a person will turn on you if they think you have not been loyal enough to them, especially if they broke the law for you.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
43. Yep. Guys like Flynn, Trump and Pence are really only out for themselves.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017

They'll step on everyone to save their own asses, including each other. They'd stab their own mothers in the back, if they though it would get them what they wanted.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
36. Maybe Flynn is trying to keep from getting Caponed by the IRS.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

This wouldn't be the first time a serious tax cheat used valuable info on his/her bosses to avoid a lengthy prison sentence because of IRS problems.

bucolic_frolic

(43,134 posts)
40. When is all this going to make a difference?
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:23 PM
Mar 2017

Being a Russian agent is so de rigeur right now

The non-progressive public doesn't care. The GOP is using PR techniques to make
Russia and supporting Trump a patriotic duty. People are so ignorant of what is happening,
what this means for them, the effects of Trump policies on their lives and health. SAD!

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
50. He's been right on and has his own reporters now too
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:42 PM
Mar 2017

He always puts reference links throught out his articles in blue. I've learned much about Russia/republicans from Rachael ,Bill Palmer and Malcolm Nance.

He is fighting the good fight and putting out news others are not (with lots of links) - so what's the problem?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
54. No, he hasn't
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

He is pretty much always wrong about everything that he thinks up in his basement on his own.

The only accurate information on that site are things he cites from other websites.

Edit to add: He also does not have "other reporters" - and he himself is not a reporter. He has a handful of "political writers" which is basically the equivalent of "people who post their thoughts on discussion boards".

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
65. Yes he has -LATEST FROM PALMER REPORT - MORE DETAILS
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:38 PM
Mar 2017

Palmer is onto some more good stuff today.

During Trump campaign, Michael Flynn met with Turkish minister who does oil business with ISIS
By Bill Palmer | March 12, 2017 |


It turns out Donald Trump and Michael Flynn have a much bigger problem on their hands than the mere fact that Flynn was on the take from a foreign government and Trump knew about it. Flynn was paid half a million dollars by a Turkish government intermediary to represent its interests while he was working for the Trump campaign and administration – and the guy who paid Flynn also set him up with a meeting with a Turkish minister who does oil business with ISIS.

Michael Flynn now admits he took $530,000 in consulting money from Turkish businessman Ekim Alptekin. In turn, Alptekin admits he set up a meeting in September between Flynn and two members of the Turkish government. According to this Associated Press report, Flynn’s own recent government filings state that he met with “Turkey’s ministers of foreign affairs and energy.” The latter is almost certainly a reference to the Turkish Minister of Energy and Natural Resources, also informally known as the Minister of Oil. That’s a man by the name of Berat Albayrak. And that’s a big problem — for Flynn and Trump.

According to hacked and stolen leaked emails which The Independent reported on, Berat Albayrak does business with a company that’s been “implicated in deals with ISIS-controlled oil fields.” In other words, while he was a Donald Trump campaign adviser, Michael Flynn held a meeting with a Turkish minister who does business with ISIS terrorists.

Congressman Elijah Cummings sent a publicly available letter to Mike Pence’s office on November 18th, alerting him to Michael Flynn’s financial arrangement with Turkey. That means Pence, and assuredly Trump, knew Flynn was on Turkey’s payroll when they decided to appoint him National Security Adviser. Did they als
o know that Flynn had recently met with a guy who does business with ISIS?

http://www.palmerreport.com/news/isis-michael-flynn-turkey-minister/1894/
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
67. No, he hasn't
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:10 PM
Mar 2017

That article is a good example of him taking accurate information reported on by other legitimate news sources (the Associated Presss and the Independent) and then embellishing it with statements that he pretends are his own, but actually come from other sources that he does not name or credit (to wit: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article137853773.html).

Response to TXCritter (Reply #92)

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
96. Yes, the NY Times is an actual news source
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:04 PM
Mar 2017

Not a Clickbait site that steals other people's reporting and passes it off as their own (and throws in some BS speculation now and then for good measure).

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
45. He might want to take out a bit more life insurance..
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

...if this country's government starts to follow the path of 45's admirable idol, Russia.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
52. Palmer and Rachael both worry me
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

Randi Rhodes has been out there too - she had Malcolm Nance on for almost an hour a few weeks ago.

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
49. While Turkey isn't technically a "hostile foreign government"
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

it has become so functionally with the autocratic response to the failed coup.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
56. the guy behind (or not behind )the failed coup, Gulen, has a weird kind of story - known as kind of
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:58 PM
Mar 2017

a Mormon/Scientologist. Why did Flynn think he could return him to the Ukraine ? Gulen has taxpayer-funded schools in the US ???? There was a video spot about his schools in Turkey - they looked better than US schools and the first graders were all learning English.


Trained as a prayer leader, Gulen gained notice in Turkey some 50 years ago, promoting a philosophy that blended a mystical form of Islam with staunch advocacy of democracy, education, science and interfaith dialogue.

Supporters started 1,000 schools in more than 100 countries, including about 150 taxpayer-funded charter schools throughout the U.S. In Turkey, they have run universities, hospitals, charities, a bank and a large media empire with newspapers and radio and TV stations. His group is called Hizmet, which means service.

He once worked alongside Erdogan but the two have split. Erdogan has vowed Gulen will be punished for his role in the overthrow attempt.

The pro-Gulen Lehigh Dialogue Center issued a statement denouncing the overthrow attempt Saturday afternoon.

"For more than 40 years, Fethullah Gulen and Hizmet participants have advocated for, and demonstrated their commitment to, peace and democracy. We have consistently denounced military interventions in domestic politics. These are core values of Hizmet participants. We condemn any military intervention in domestic politics of Turkey," the statement says.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/news/index.ssf/2016/07/rare_look_at_exiled_turkish_cl.html
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
87. This story, and the Turkey Coup attempt, and Flynn ... have 'The Family' written ALL OVER THEM ...
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:42 AM
Mar 2017

It couldn't be more obvious to me who these guys really work for, both Gulen and Flynn ...

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
55. I always wondered who would be the first rat to snitch on Trump.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017

So now I guess Flynn gets the booby prize. I always thought it would be Manafort. Of course, they may be several, who are quietly singing the snitch song that we don't know about - yet. The thing about Flynn is that he is into pay back and vengence. He better watch his back that someone doesn't serve him a plutonium martini. Or as my ex-con neighbor says, "A snitch is a bitch in a ditch."

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
64. Plus Flynn seems the less stable of them all - remember the arabic signs he said were in Mexico
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:30 PM
Mar 2017

pointing the way to the border.


Michael Flynn once claimed Arabic signs on southern border guide 'radicalized Muslims' into US

(CNN)Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Donald Trump's pick to be his national security adviser, claimed in an August radio interview that Arabic signs were present along the United States border with Mexico to guide potential state-sponsored terrorists and "radicalized Muslims" into the United States.
Flynn further said in the interview he had personally seen photos of such signs in Texas.
A CNN KFile review of available information about the terror threat along the US-Mexico border could not corroborate Flynn's claim. CNN's KFile asked Flynn for clarification about the Arabic signs, but received no reply. A Trump transition spokesman declined to comment. A spokesperson for the US Customs and Border Protection (CBP) "respectfully" declined to comment.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/08/politics/kfile-michael-flynn-arabic-signs-on-border/

Demsrule86

(68,553 posts)
59. No...he is trying to stay out of jail...it is illegal to take money as he did without registering as
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:12 PM
Mar 2017

a foreign agent...this is why it was retroactive...and Pence was notified about this during the transition...so the story about how Flynn lied is pure bullshit.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
61. IMO, Was Flynn just a carrier of money or was it his money for services.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 05:24 PM
Mar 2017

I think he was just a carrier, a gut feeling on my part.

womanofthehills

(8,698 posts)
66. supposedly he ran a "sort of" company called the Flynn Intel Groop
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:50 PM
Mar 2017

which was "supposedly" doing research on Gulen.


Mr. Flynn was assigned to investigate Fethullah Gulen, a Turkish cleric who lives in Pennsylvania and was blamed by Mr. Erdogan for helping instigate the failed coup. Mr. Erdogan has demanded the United States extradite Mr. Gulen, which the Obama administration refused to do.

The forms filed this week indicate that Mr. Flynn’s firm was “to perform investigative research” on Mr. Gulen and “develop a short film piece on the results of its investigation.” In the end, the video was never completed, and Mr. Flynn’s firm received $530,000 before the contract terminated in November. But on Election Day, Mr. Flynn published an op-ed article in The Hill, a newspaper serving Congress, calling Mr. Gulen “a shady Islamic mullah” and “radical Islamist.”

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Mr. Flynn opened the Flynn Intel Group in October 2014, two months after he was forced out as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. The business was opaque, making little public, not even an address. When a reporter went looking for it last fall, he tracked it down to an Alexandria, Va., office building operating out of the nondescript headquarters of another firm, called the White Canvas Group.

In the interview in October, Mr. Flynn offered only a vague description of the firm. He said he had clients in Japan and the Middle East and that he worked on cybertraining, aviation operations and energy business.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/10/us/politics/michael-flynn-turkey.html

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
97. Pence said he did not know about Flynn until Flynn told him last month.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:26 PM
Mar 2017

thus Trump said he fired Flynn for lying to Pence.

Except..Pence knew, in November:

Democratic Congressman Elijah Cummings sent a letter to Mike Pence’s office on November 18th, spelling out in detail the financial arrangements which Michael Flynn had with Turkey. Cummings entered the letter into the official House record at the time. The letter has long been public knowledge, but it’s once again become relevant because it demonstrates that Pence was long ago made aware of Flynn’s payments from Turkey.

This means that the Donald Trump administration went on to appoint Michael Flynn as its National Security Adviser even though Mike Pence knew Flynn was taking Turkish money. It also means Mike Pence was lying this week when he claimed in this interview with Fox News host Bret Baier that he wasn’t aware of Flynn’s Turkey situation until he heard about it from the media. This is a remarkable development considering that the Trump administration framed Flynn’s firing last month as having been a result of Flynn lying to Pence about his repeated phone calls with the Russian Ambassador.
http://www.palmerreport.com/news/mike-pence-learned-in-november-that-michael-flynn-was-a-foreign-agent-lied-about-knowing/1863/

AC_Mem

(1,979 posts)
74. They all know every dirty detail
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:15 PM
Mar 2017

NO WAY are there innocents who are unknowledgeable at the top. They know, and think they are above the law. I'm afraid that many many people have bought into one of the greatest tragedies of American history.

MedusaX

(1,129 posts)
82. 45 faces Compromise possibilities due to non-divestiture
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:14 AM
Mar 2017

Flynn has also established a connection between his being paid & 45 being subject to manipulation by Turkey ....
income from 45's Istanbul Tower could be cut off if 45 does not do as Turkey wishes.....


Extradition Swap?
The conflicts between the commercial interests of the Trump family and U.S. foreign policy extend beyond the many financial benefits for the next president and his children. Already, there is a situation in which the president of the United States could be blackmailed by a foreign power through pressure related to his family’s business entanglements.


More .....
http://www.newsweek.com/2016/12/23/donald-trump-foreign-business-deals-jeopardize-us-531140.html

This section is pretty far down in the article ...

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
85. Amen, dixiegrrrrl. Flynn strikes me as an angry SOB with a massive grudge....
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 04:13 AM
Mar 2017

I don't know why it had not occurred to me before that he had lawyered up. Hmmmmm.

OnDoutside

(19,954 posts)
88. Two Questions I would like to have answered, which might make things clearer
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 07:23 AM
Mar 2017

1) When Congressman Cummings sent the letter to Pence on November 18 warning him of the Flynn-Turkey issue, did Pence reply to/acknowledge receipt of his letter ?

2) During the time Flynn was not registered as a Foreign Agent, but receiving classified briefings, did some of those briefings include discussions on Turkey ?

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
95. Doesn't Erdogan want a refund?
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 11:43 AM
Mar 2017

That should scare the Jebus out of Flynn. I wouldn't want that guy coming after me.

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