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JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:13 PM Mar 2017

"Communist" Russia?


When arguing with conservatives it's pretty common to be unfairly accused of being a communist.

So I think it's only fair to turn the tables a little bit.

Lately, when talking with conservatives, I mention the Trump Administration's ties to "Communist" Russia.
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"Communist" Russia? (Original Post) JEFF9K Mar 2017 OP
Jealousy Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #1
well might as well, they don't know any better Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #2
Russia really isn't really communist any more. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #3
Isn't Russia more of a fascist regime now nt doc03 Mar 2017 #4
yabbut most RW trogs don't grasp those kinds of complexities..... lastlib Mar 2017 #6
National Socialist Bear Creek Mar 2017 #8
Better dead than red! Renew Deal Mar 2017 #5
Love it Bear Creek Mar 2017 #7
I think that's silly, as the communist government fell over 20 years ago, but... JHB Mar 2017 #9
I've been calling them "Commie dupes" for months now. Really harkens back. :) TeamPooka Mar 2017 #10
Ask them how they like their... pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #11
I think it is unwise to do so and causes confusion. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #12
Communism Bear Creek Mar 2017 #13

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Jealousy
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:16 PM
Mar 2017

IMHO, the right wing in this country were never anti-communist as much as they were jealous of the control the totalitarian government had over its people........you always hate and bad mouth the competition when you think they have an advantage you don't.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
3. Russia really isn't really communist any more.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:24 PM
Mar 2017

The Communist Party lost much of its power in the '90s. Now it's basically a controlled, authoritarian capitalist (or oligarchic) state. But if it makes the conservatives nuts by suggesting they are happy with Trump's close relationship with a communist regime, go for it.

lastlib

(23,220 posts)
6. yabbut most RW trogs don't grasp those kinds of complexities.....
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:02 PM
Mar 2017

A lot of them think Hitler was a left-winger because he was a totalitarian.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
8. National Socialist
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

The Soviet Union, officially the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics was a socialist state in Eurasia that existed from 1922 to 1991. They have went back towards the national socialist.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
9. I think that's silly, as the communist government fell over 20 years ago, but...
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:10 PM
Mar 2017

...I do sometimes speak of the ongoing Sovietization of the Republican Party.

There's a raft of things, like torture and airbrushing inconvenient history, that back when I was growing up were on the list of things the Soviets did and we didn't, and that's why we were better than them. Yeah, reality was never that clean, but Republicans have taken them out of the booth in the back in the corner in the dark and made them official policy.

They have a Correct Policy (in the old Soviet sense, not "political correctness&quot , and you are either on board with it or you are targeted for destruction. They may not actually send people to a gulag (yet. With Bannon writing policy, anything is possible), but their careers do end up in Siberia.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. I think it is unwise to do so and causes confusion.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:43 PM
Mar 2017

They are capitalism run amok, and if we don't take care, we are looking at our future in Russia. People here probably hate Communism, but no matter how you feel about it, there was at least an attempt to have public programs that helped people.

Russia is cozying up to Trump because they have financial interests that they want to advance by stripping the U.S. of our democratic norms. The GOP are on board because there is nothing in that goal that is in conflict with their own goals. They aren't going to care what name you call them because they know you are wrong.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
13. Communism
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:54 PM
Mar 2017

Russia never was communist they were and still are national socialist. They did try to go capitalist but it was not working so they have been going back to the old ways.

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