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(47,466 posts)
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:39 AM Mar 2017

Trump voters would get hurt more than Hillary's

We know that, but Chuck Todd had a detailed analysis:

Starting with Clark County, Nevada, home to Las Vegas. Clinton, by the way, carried the county with 52 percent of the vote. Under the Obamacare, ACA, a 60-year-old making $40,000 a year qualifies for a federal subsidy of $4,380 per year for a mid-level insurance plan. Under the proposed House Republican plan, they would just get a flat credit of $4,000. Which means they'd have to find another $380 more per year out of their own pockets.

Now, let's move over to rural Northumberland County, Pennsylvania. Donald Trump won this county with 69 percent of the vote. With Obamacare, the same 60-year-old qualifies for a subsidy of, ready for this, $11,150. With this new House Republican plan, he or she would get just $4,000 - it's that same $4,000 tax credit. Which means they'd have to dig out more than $7,000 out of their own pocket to pay for additional coverage.

Let's look at 81 percent of the counties that voted for Hillary Clinton overall. In fact, a 60-year-old making $40,00 a year would see their subsidy decline overall. The same would be true for 93 percent of the counties carried by Donald Trump. In fact, Trump counties would also see bigger subsidy cuts. This is a point that many democrats have been making.

In fact, here's another way to look at it which is two examples from The New York Times' upshot. Those who stand to gain at least $2,500 in subsidies, they were split in November 47-46, Clinton over Trump. But those set to lose anywhere from $5,000 to $7,500 in federal assistance for healthcare, they voted 60-35 Trump over Clinton. So, in other words, financially in this plan it is Trump folks who get hurt more than Clinton voters.

Look, President Trump and republicans in Congress were elected largely on one of the promises being to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act. Trump's strongest supporters may get the repeal that they wanted, but higher costs could come as part of that deal.

http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meet-press-03-12-17-n732406 (and scroll down)

I honestly cannot feel sorry for them.

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Trump voters would get hurt more than Hillary's (Original Post) question everything Mar 2017 OP
Trump voters are the most at risk; they'll be the first to suffer and die in agony. NBachers Mar 2017 #1
If you vote to oppress oasis Mar 2017 #2
And yet their talking heads will instruct them that... Beartracks Mar 2017 #3
It's worse. Rate cap of three times the 21yo rate would go to 5 times 21 yo rate. pat_k Mar 2017 #4
Maybe there is some kind of inadvertent justice world wide wally Mar 2017 #5
The 3rd president of America says hi DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2017 #6
They'll go to their graves clutching their MAGA hats dalton99a Mar 2017 #7
They'll go to their graves clutching their MAGA hats. LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #9
K&R. dchill Mar 2017 #8

NBachers

(17,098 posts)
1. Trump voters are the most at risk; they'll be the first to suffer and die in agony.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:54 AM
Mar 2017

And they'll bring their innocent children with them, and proclaim it's "God's Will."

Beartracks

(12,807 posts)
3. And yet their talking heads will instruct them that...
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

... somehow, Democrats are to blame.

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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
4. It's worse. Rate cap of three times the 21yo rate would go to 5 times 21 yo rate.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:56 AM
Mar 2017

The subsidy will buy a lot less insurance under the WeDontCare plan because the top rate is going up by 60%

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
6. The 3rd president of America says hi
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 02:06 AM
Mar 2017

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that his justice cannot sleep forever. "

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
9. They'll go to their graves clutching their MAGA hats.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:23 AM
Mar 2017

Scary thing is that some will LITERALLY be going to their graves if Don't Give a Damn Care passes.

Oh well

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