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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 06:54 PM Mar 2017

Louise Mensch has developed evidence that Wikileaks is an FSB/GRU front

And that the Russian server has the ability to deanonymize and track those who communicate with it. So it's a Kompromat tool.

Here are her conclusions:

Wikileaks Hands “Keys” to Putin’s Russian Hacker – Readers, Leakers Tracked

* Wikileaks has handed Chayanov access to everything stored on its site and servers

* The Russian hacker and spammer can ‘monitor traffic’

* He can tell who is reading anything on the Wikileaks site anywhere in the world

* The Russian hacker has access to all documents that have been sent to Wikileaks

* He can probably bust the anonymity of any computer or user who thought they were anonymously donating to Wikileaks

* It is not reasonable to suggest that this hacker is other than linked with Russia’s GRU – if he has it, they have it

* Through Julian Assange and his website, it appears that the Russian hacker and his government can track any readers of the Wikileaks site and any donors of material to it, thus allowing Russia to ‘blackmail’ anyone who ‘sent secrets’ to Wikileaks as a ‘whistleblower’.
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Louise Mensch has developed evidence that Wikileaks is an FSB/GRU front (Original Post) GliderGuider Mar 2017 OP
Makes perfect sense. Assange hates and fears Clinton. Putin hates and fears Clinton Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #1
Thanks for the info. Lucinda Mar 2017 #2
Assange has his own show on Russian state television. geek tragedy Mar 2017 #3
True rockfordfile Mar 2017 #8
Bingo. roamer65 Mar 2017 #36
Hi GG! - I was reading Ms. Mensch (as usual) earlier today, and boy, this thing just Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #4
Well, everything she's said so far is basic Internet stuff. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #5
Well now, all's I can do is check twitter feeds, check DU, and send emails - such is the extent of Leghorn21 Mar 2017 #9
A few choice quotes from her feed: GliderGuider Mar 2017 #6
She also thinks that Chayanov is Guccifer 2.0 - or at least part of the persona. nt GliderGuider Mar 2017 #7
This is from the Patribotics blog..it's not Louise Mensch Kaotic Mar 2017 #10
Uh, no. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #11
Right, missed that... Laurelai Bailey Kaotic Mar 2017 #12
No, this article is by Mensch herself. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #15
I can't find any association of the blog with Louise Mensch... Kaotic Mar 2017 #18
Then you can't have read her Twitter feed this last few months. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #19
Pointless for you cause you can't prove it's her blog. Kaotic Mar 2017 #21
If it's not shade, why are you so hot on it not being her blog? GliderGuider Mar 2017 #22
Because it's not her blog..how do you KNOW it's her blog? No mention Patribotics in her Wiki... Kaotic Mar 2017 #25
Sorry, dude. It is. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #27
I guess you're new to Menschworld, huh? n/t Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #23
Patribotics is Mensch's own blog. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #14
How do you know that's Mensch's blog? Kaotic Mar 2017 #16
It's common knowledge for anyone who reads her Twitter feed. Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #17
Yes she links to it frequently..doesn't mean she penned any the pieces Kaotic Mar 2017 #20
Why don't you tweet her and ask? nt GliderGuider Mar 2017 #24
It's her Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #28
She links to it frequently because it's her major outlet nowadays, Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #30
OK I believe now..I found proof... Kaotic Mar 2017 #32
That's OK, though you were taxing my patience there for a minute! Denzil_DC Mar 2017 #33
Thanks. n/t Kaotic Mar 2017 #34
thanks for letting us know. I too was stretching a bit thin there for a minute. GliderGuider Mar 2017 #35
That's Louise Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #26
FSB/GRU WTF spanone Mar 2017 #13
Russian Intelligence and Military Intelligence Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #29
thank you. spanone Mar 2017 #31

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. Makes perfect sense. Assange hates and fears Clinton. Putin hates and fears Clinton
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

(this alone should have her winning an election HERE 90/10).

So the world's biggest thief and murderous dictator, Vlad Putin desperately does NOT want Clinton president.

So if you support Trump you support Putin, our enemy.

And yet, they do.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
4. Hi GG! - I was reading Ms. Mensch (as usual) earlier today, and boy, this thing just
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 07:21 PM
Mar 2017

blew UP!

https://mobile.twitter.com/LouiseMensch?max_id=841736169075421185

....this investigation has been brewing for a while, but starting at the above link from earlier today, a woman named laurelai Bailey told her story - and one thing led to another - wow - sure sure sure do hope it's all true

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. Well, everything she's said so far is basic Internet stuff.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

I was on her feed when Chayanov deleted his account. Boy howdy, that made me take note! The whois sleuthing is solid - even I can see on my own machine that it's a Russian server. the notion that it's completely open to FSB/GRU is elementary stuff, but the implications are a bit numbing.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
9. Well now, all's I can do is check twitter feeds, check DU, and send emails - such is the extent of
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 07:54 PM
Mar 2017

my tech abilities (for real) - but I was there too when Chayanov's account vaporized, and Louise was so ecstatic over it that I was, too! "Somethin' cookin' HERE, sports fans!" - giddy hope abounding now!

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. A few choice quotes from her feed:
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 07:34 PM
Mar 2017

"Digital encryption won't save you from a state sponsored effort with physical hardware access."

"If you read Wikileaks, you're giving Russian Intelligence the ability to read/track you."

"Russian Hacker Peter Chayanov has the SSL keys to the entire site - and so does Putin"

"Submit secrets to #wikileaks, become an unwitting asset of Russian intelligence, which can then blackmail you for doing so. It's a feature!"

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
11. Uh, no.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:01 PM
Mar 2017

The analyst is named Laurelai Bailey. The blog is only used by Louise. She refers to Laurelei in the third person, so even if the article doesn't have her name on it, Louise wrote it.

Throwing shade?

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
15. No, this article is by Mensch herself.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:15 PM
Mar 2017

First couple of paras:

Exclusive analysis by Laurelai Bailey, published by Patribotics this week confirmed that Julian Assange and Wikileaks obtained two new servers in Russia just one week before the hacked Podesta emails were released.

Laurelai reported that the ultimate registrant of the servers was one Peter Chayanov, of Russia, a known cyber-criminal and hacker


That's Mensch writing this particular post.
 

Kaotic

(83 posts)
18. I can't find any association of the blog with Louise Mensch...
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:23 PM
Mar 2017

She links to the articles from her Twitter account but that doesn't mean a thing. Where on the Patribotics blog site is Mensch given credit as the creator or author of content?

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
19. Then you can't have read her Twitter feed this last few months.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:24 PM
Mar 2017

This is a pointless argument, dude.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
22. If it's not shade, why are you so hot on it not being her blog?
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:31 PM
Mar 2017

When everyone who follows her knows it is?

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
14. Patribotics is Mensch's own blog.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:12 PM
Mar 2017

Unsigned posts will be Mensch's.

Recently, she's enlisted Laurelai Bailey, some years back a key member of Wikileaks. Any posts by her will no doubt be signed "by Laurelai Bailey".

Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
17. It's common knowledge for anyone who reads her Twitter feed.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:22 PM
Mar 2017

She refers to and links to it frequently. It's where she self-publishes her longer-form material that doesn't fit with her other outlets (the Guardian's Comment Is Free., etc.).

Here's her current pinned tweet:




Louise Mensch ✔ @LouiseMensch

Major breaking exclusive - why @Wikileaks Russian servers are MUCH WORSE NEWS than anybody thought #TrumpRussia https://patribotics.wordpress.com/2017/03/14/wikileaks-hands-over-the-keys-to-russia-and-vladimir-putin/
 

Kaotic

(83 posts)
20. Yes she links to it frequently..doesn't mean she penned any the pieces
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:28 PM
Mar 2017

Why doesn't she have a link to Patribotics in her sidebar bio?


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Denzil_DC

(7,233 posts)
30. She links to it frequently because it's her major outlet nowadays,
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

where she publishes her research (and just recently, Bailey's).

A day or so following her feed would tell you this.

While you're tweeting her to ask why she doesn't link to it in her sidebar bio, maybe you can ask her why the Patribotics "About" page still reads

This is an example of an about page. Unlike posts, pages are better suited for more timeless content that you want to be easily accessible, like your About or Contact information. Click the Edit link to make changes to this page or add another page.


and the "Contact" page still reads

This is a contact page with some basic contact information and a contact form.

Name(required)

Email(required)

Website

Comment(required)
 

Kaotic

(83 posts)
32. OK I believe now..I found proof...
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

Excuse me for not believing but I'm skeptical of everything and it's not overtly obvious that it's her blog. But I kept digging and found this...so now I'm on board.


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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
35. thanks for letting us know. I too was stretching a bit thin there for a minute.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 08:59 PM
Mar 2017

But as I've discovered to my chagrin, it's far better to be a bit too skeptical than not skeptical enough. (I used to be a Snowden/Assange fanboi )

And welcome to DU!

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