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https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/03/14/at-south-by-southwest-seth-moulton-warns-of-nuclear-war-with-russia-makes-fun-of-paul-ryans-workout-routineRep. Seth Moulton shared some wide-ranging thoughts Monday at South by Southwest, the annual Austin, Texas, festival and latest stop along the Salem Democrats recent meteoric rise.
In a live-taping of Pod Save America a popular liberal advocacy podcast hosted by former aides to President Barack Obama Moulton talked about how he got into politics, President Donald Trumps travel ban, and his relationship with other members of Congress.
The generally light-hearted interview hit its most serious note, however, when Moulton was asked about his most serious foreign policy concern. The former Marine and member of the House Armed Services Committee had a one-word answer: Russia.
In the short term, its Russia trying to undermine our democracy; in the medium term, its Russia not just trying to undermine our democracy, but other democracies across the world; and in the long term, its Russia because we might not even get to the long term because we could literally have a nuclear war with Vladimir Putin, Moulton said.
Moulton acknowledged that the possibility he raised was a pretty strong statement, but explained his fears of a tactical nuclear war were underlined by Russias willing to escalate international relations, as well as Trumps sole decision-making authority over nuclear weapons.
"As NPR recently reported, Moulton recently asked the Pentagon to confirm reports that Russia was violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty by testing land-based cruise missiles. The defense departments response: Yes. It was the first official confirmation that Russia was violating the treaty."
This is a big deal, folks, Moulton said Monday.
Russia is violating a nuclear weapons treaty, and what has Trump done about it? I mean, he hasnt even tweeted about it. Thats how out to lunch he is.
Moulton said the lack of a response could allow Putin to try other aggressive actions, similar to Russias annexation of Crimea."
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PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)If Pootie has his grip around donald's balls (like I suspect he does), Pootie can go ahead and do anything he wants because who's going to stop him?
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Western world goodbye.
BSdetect
(8,994 posts)never mind Putin.
Putin can squeeze other countries at will now as drumph is too much under his control.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)Russia will use the dummies in the WH to initiate a tactical nuclear war against China and then will turn on the dummies and hit us...now while MAD is still in play, ameriKKKa weakened by a recent war russian intelligence aware, because of the russian moles, both cyber and Humint, of most of our sites...could take over real quick. No proof, just years of study of military tactics... Putin is going to chump the trump. Nuclear winter, here we come.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Nobody wins.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)more than likely probably will escalate. Since private ego's, that give less than a damn about us 'little people' out here, will be pushing the buttons. Just think, president bannon....he doesn't give a damn about us, I even think as ugly and fucked up looking as he is, he, really deep down, doesn't know how much he hates himself. Yes, it will be the beginning of a short lived end for us all, think children, grandchildren, animals, plant life, yes you're right...planet. a ball of dirt spinning in space, lifeless, with evidence of once thriving life...I think about it all the time now . Deplorable people put us in this place...only decent people can take us from this place by unified fighting against the RW that wants us destroyed. That's coming too.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)that SOMEONE in close ranks (a patriot) will do what's necessary with their service revolver?
Given his mental instability, do you think this scenario is being discussed?
Ligyron
(7,616 posts)Especially a first strike.
So what if they were court martailed? Better off that then flat-out dead.
Radiation poisoning is a bad way to go for both them and their loved ones, never mind the rest of us..
heaven05
(18,124 posts)that this ruling triumvirate we have as 'leaders of the free world' has given field commanders the go ahead to use nucs at their discretion depending on perceived threat....George C. Scott's character, 'Dr Strangelove" anyone...
heaven05
(18,124 posts)there is one true american among these ameriKKKans. I guess, this scenario is their go to if the Terrible Triumvirate find themselves in real danger of being deposed. I wouldn't put it past them.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't think that is too far off base.
lostnfound
(16,162 posts)If there is a history
The people who voted for him,
The people in power who could have stopped him but didn't,
The media that played along.
History will not be kind.
coco22
(1,258 posts)the CLOWNS are running every thing and they don't give a damn about this country,they will when it's too late then they will want everyone to come together which won't happen.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)thanks for posting that.
I actually thought his comments on vets in congress were really interesting too.
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)It's the followup to "Keepin' it 1600"
The Pod Save the World show is really good too, and this week they have Glenn Greenwald. Haven't listened yet but I'm curious what the interaction will be like.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I will make a point to listen.
The Sand Reckoner
(194 posts)He's sitting right at the table with Putin, giving him a handjob under the table.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't think he's on to Putin's end game.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)If there was ONE scintilla of shenanigans on Trump's part, and it's almost a certainty there was, Putin has Trump by the short hairs for all eternity. Blackmail city.
Trump (and The US) is fucked. The only end game is he comes clean (highly unlikely) or gets exposed.
Either way it is going to get ugly.