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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:53 AM Mar 2017

This is a big deal, folks.

https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2017/03/14/at-south-by-southwest-seth-moulton-warns-of-nuclear-war-with-russia-makes-fun-of-paul-ryans-workout-routine

Rep. Seth Moulton shared some wide-ranging thoughts Monday at South by Southwest, the annual Austin, Texas, festival and latest stop along the Salem Democrat’s recent meteoric rise.

In a live-taping of Pod Save America — a popular liberal advocacy podcast hosted by former aides to President Barack Obama — Moulton talked about how he got into politics, President Donald Trump’s travel ban, and his relationship with other members of Congress.

The generally light-hearted interview hit its most serious note, however, when Moulton was asked about his most serious foreign policy concern. The former Marine and member of the House Armed Services Committee had a one-word answer: “Russia.”


“In the short term, it’s Russia trying to undermine our democracy; in the medium term, it’s Russia not just trying to undermine our democracy, but other democracies across the world; and in the long term, it’s Russia because we might not even get to the long term because we could literally have a nuclear war with Vladimir Putin,” Moulton said.

Moulton acknowledged that the possibility he raised “was a pretty strong statement,” but explained his fears of a “tactical nuclear war” were underlined by Russia’s willing to escalate international relations, as well as Trump’s “sole decision-making authority over nuclear weapons.”

"As NPR recently reported, Moulton recently asked the Pentagon to confirm reports that Russia was violating the 1987 Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty by testing land-based cruise missiles. The defense department’s response: Yes. It was the first official confirmation that Russia was violating the treaty."

“This is a big deal, folks,” Moulton said Monday.

“Russia is violating a nuclear weapons treaty, and what has Trump done about it? I mean, he hasn’t even tweeted about it. That’s how out to lunch he is.”

Moulton said the lack of a response could allow Putin to try other aggressive actions, similar to Russia’s annexation of Crimea."

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This is a big deal, folks. (Original Post) smirkymonkey Mar 2017 OP
Yeah, it's a big deal. Very scary. PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #1
If we don't get him and Bannon out of office soon, we can kiss a peaceful smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #5
The GOP is too busy feeding in the trough to deal with drumph BSdetect Mar 2017 #2
as I see it heaven05 Mar 2017 #3
But, MAD and a nuclear winter is the entire planet, Putin included. PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #6
I know..it could heaven05 Mar 2017 #8
Do you think it's possible, if BLOTUS, out of paranoia/revenge, intends to launch a nuclear weapon PearliePoo2 Mar 2017 #12
Yeah, I personally don't think the military would cooperate with launching nucs. Ligyron Mar 2017 #18
I read somewhere, maybe here heaven05 Mar 2017 #21
I can only hope heaven05 Mar 2017 #19
+1000 smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #13
The people who voted for him are going to be embarrassed in history lostnfound Mar 2017 #4
Yep not fooled Mar 2017 #9
In the meantime... coco22 Mar 2017 #7
yeah-- I just listened to the podcast this morning Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #10
if you listen to podcasts and don't get this one (Pod Save America)-- you should, it's really good Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #11
Thank you! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #14
Trump is not out to lunch The Sand Reckoner Mar 2017 #15
Only because he thinks it's going to make him richer. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #16
It doesn't matter, at this point, if he is or isn't on to Putin's end game. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #22
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #17
K&R ATL Ebony Mar 2017 #20

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
1. Yeah, it's a big deal. Very scary.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:01 AM
Mar 2017

If Pootie has his grip around donald's balls (like I suspect he does), Pootie can go ahead and do anything he wants because who's going to stop him?


BSdetect

(8,994 posts)
2. The GOP is too busy feeding in the trough to deal with drumph
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:04 AM
Mar 2017

never mind Putin.

Putin can squeeze other countries at will now as drumph is too much under his control.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
3. as I see it
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:07 AM
Mar 2017

Russia will use the dummies in the WH to initiate a tactical nuclear war against China and then will turn on the dummies and hit us...now while MAD is still in play, ameriKKKa weakened by a recent war russian intelligence aware, because of the russian moles, both cyber and Humint, of most of our sites...could take over real quick. No proof, just years of study of military tactics... Putin is going to chump the trump. Nuclear winter, here we come.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
8. I know..it could
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:45 AM
Mar 2017

more than likely probably will escalate. Since private ego's, that give less than a damn about us 'little people' out here, will be pushing the buttons. Just think, president bannon....he doesn't give a damn about us, I even think as ugly and fucked up looking as he is, he, really deep down, doesn't know how much he hates himself. Yes, it will be the beginning of a short lived end for us all, think children, grandchildren, animals, plant life, yes you're right...planet. a ball of dirt spinning in space, lifeless, with evidence of once thriving life...I think about it all the time now . Deplorable people put us in this place...only decent people can take us from this place by unified fighting against the RW that wants us destroyed. That's coming too.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
12. Do you think it's possible, if BLOTUS, out of paranoia/revenge, intends to launch a nuclear weapon
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:38 AM
Mar 2017

that SOMEONE in close ranks (a patriot) will do what's necessary with their service revolver?
Given his mental instability, do you think this scenario is being discussed?

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
18. Yeah, I personally don't think the military would cooperate with launching nucs.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:33 PM
Mar 2017

Especially a first strike.

So what if they were court martailed? Better off that then flat-out dead.

Radiation poisoning is a bad way to go for both them and their loved ones, never mind the rest of us..

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
21. I read somewhere, maybe here
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

that this ruling triumvirate we have as 'leaders of the free world' has given field commanders the go ahead to use nucs at their discretion depending on perceived threat....George C. Scott's character, 'Dr Strangelove" anyone...

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
19. I can only hope
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:52 PM
Mar 2017

there is one true american among these ameriKKKans. I guess, this scenario is their go to if the Terrible Triumvirate find themselves in real danger of being deposed. I wouldn't put it past them.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
9. Yep
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:00 AM
Mar 2017

The people who voted for him,

The people in power who could have stopped him but didn't,

The media that played along.


History will not be kind.

coco22

(1,258 posts)
7. In the meantime...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:38 AM
Mar 2017

the CLOWNS are running every thing and they don't give a damn about this country,they will when it's too late then they will want everyone to come together which won't happen.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
10. yeah-- I just listened to the podcast this morning
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:32 AM
Mar 2017

thanks for posting that.

I actually thought his comments on vets in congress were really interesting too.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
11. if you listen to podcasts and don't get this one (Pod Save America)-- you should, it's really good
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:34 AM
Mar 2017

It's the followup to "Keepin' it 1600"

The Pod Save the World show is really good too, and this week they have Glenn Greenwald. Haven't listened yet but I'm curious what the interaction will be like.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
22. It doesn't matter, at this point, if he is or isn't on to Putin's end game.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:22 PM
Mar 2017

If there was ONE scintilla of shenanigans on Trump's part, and it's almost a certainty there was, Putin has Trump by the short hairs for all eternity. Blackmail city.

Trump (and The US) is fucked. The only end game is he comes clean (highly unlikely) or gets exposed.

Either way it is going to get ugly.

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