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Trump document dump coming today at 1PM (Original Post) Renew Deal Mar 2017 OP
K & R malaise Mar 2017 #1
Kick. dalton99a Mar 2017 #2
Better get a nap in beforehand! n/t ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #3
For those who were personally offended by Maddow last night BannonsLiver Mar 2017 #4
It takes a lot of 'pieces' PatSeg Mar 2017 #14
WAtergate was before the INternet! Amaryllis Mar 2017 #32
Yes PatSeg Mar 2017 #43
And they didn't have RAchel connecting the dots every evening on national TV. Amaryllis Mar 2017 #67
We only had three networks PatSeg Mar 2017 #69
Much slower. No 24 hour news. Hour in the AM and hour in the PM plus Sunday shows and an Amaryllis Mar 2017 #74
Yes PatSeg Mar 2017 #78
Then there should be less over-hyping, "buckle up", etc. AJT Mar 2017 #26
Really? I've been disappointed so often. nt Ilsa Mar 2017 #5
Well, it's all grist for the mill. MineralMan Mar 2017 #6
I'm just hoping for something substantial, not necessarily resign-worthy. Ilsa Mar 2017 #10
As always, we'll have to wait and see what emerges. MineralMan Mar 2017 #11
i think what we expect is... lame54 Mar 2017 #12
People keep putting grains of powder in that gun, one at a time. MineralMan Mar 2017 #15
You can still use the goddamned gun as a club! randome Mar 2017 #19
Even better, throw the gun at the foe. MineralMan Mar 2017 #22
Lol. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #27
I hear you. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #33
this. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #61
Exactly theglammistress Mar 2017 #29
There are lots and lots of impatient people. MineralMan Mar 2017 #30
It's always interesting to get new information. MineralMan Mar 2017 #7
Who is "we"? Who's releasing them? Who's got em? jmg257 Mar 2017 #8
Looking forward to anything good. Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #9
Is it starting yet? What is it? lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #13
"court cases, taxes, contracts etc" Renew Deal Mar 2017 #16
Please please let it be good shit. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #17
There is treatment for that Renew Deal Mar 2017 #21
Oh I thought you meant this: lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #23
Ummmm Renew Deal Mar 2017 #24
I'm not going to hold my breath that this will reveal anything earth shattering. beaglelover Mar 2017 #18
NEWSFLASH: world wide wally Mar 2017 #20
That ain't news to anyone but the ones with half-a-brain that voted for asshole! FreeStateDemocrat Mar 2017 #34
I'm cautiously optimistic!!!!!! frogmarch Mar 2017 #25
I hope this has more substance than the blockbuster "Tax ReturnS" from last night. George II Mar 2017 #28
Dworkin said "any minute now" over half an hour ago. MineralMan Mar 2017 #31
Happy Ides o' March !!!! C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #35
Seems like these "dumps" never happen on time...which really nicks credibility. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #36
I guess the idea is to build some buzz. MineralMan Mar 2017 #37
Completely agree. NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #38
lol GaYellowDawg Mar 2017 #41
ROFL! lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #44
Here we go: 45 failed to disclose 6 businesses: Ilsa Mar 2017 #39
That was yesterday. This dump is supposed to be new. MineralMan Mar 2017 #40
It's still pretty good stuff. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #45
I tweeted at him. MineralMan Mar 2017 #46
I don't have a tweeter. lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #49
It's 2pm eastern time, was there a data dump? AJT Mar 2017 #42
Nope. No sign of any dump at all. MineralMan Mar 2017 #47
I don't have a twitter account. AJT Mar 2017 #48
Easy to sign up. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #53
Yes. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #50
Here. herding cats Mar 2017 #51
Link to Dump: MineralMan Mar 2017 #52
So is this significant do you think? Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #55
It's some sort of property assessment legal case on MineralMan Mar 2017 #56
I think they're trying to prove that these 5 unreported businesses are real Renew Deal Mar 2017 #63
OK. I think I'm going to wait and let someone else MineralMan Mar 2017 #64
That makes sense...and if he didn't report them...there may be a good reason for him not to do so. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #66
The 90s is when Trump was having serious financial trouble and it is alleged / suspected that wiggs Mar 2017 #65
It's out now. herding cats Mar 2017 #54
wow...going to take some time and work to scan all those jpg'd docs NRaleighLiberal Mar 2017 #60
I know. herding cats Mar 2017 #62
Updated #TrumpRussia report from @TheDemCoalition to be released at 330pm ET herding cats Mar 2017 #70
This message was self-deleted by its author herding cats Mar 2017 #71
cool, hope there's something good in there Kimchijeon Mar 2017 #72
The Russian reports aren't coming out for another half hour or so. herding cats Mar 2017 #73
I skimmed through the documents and it looks like a bunch of court documents that Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #76
It would be more respectable if they would just release /Tweet what they have, C Moon Mar 2017 #57
If you're looking for an example of egregious hype GliderGuider Mar 2017 #58
So far woundedkarma Mar 2017 #59
Maybe they meant 1:00 Saturnian time. randome Mar 2017 #68
on the eastern side of Saturn or the western side of Saturn? still_one Mar 2017 #77
And do they go on daylight time there or is it Saturnian standard time? Amaryllis Mar 2017 #79
We also need to be able to answer the three questions still_one Mar 2017 #80
It would be helpful if the jpg files had descriptive titles. NWCorona Mar 2017 #75

BannonsLiver

(16,291 posts)
4. For those who were personally offended by Maddow last night
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:55 AM
Mar 2017

A friendly reminder: It's unlikely this is the silver bullet, either. Just another piece of the puzzle. Temper your expectations.

PatSeg

(47,244 posts)
14. It takes a lot of 'pieces'
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:04 PM
Mar 2017

to get a full picture. Watergate took years, but I don't think it will take that long with Trump.

PatSeg

(47,244 posts)
43. Yes
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:06 PM
Mar 2017

And there are far more people digging into Trump's world than Nixon's at the time. Also Nixon was a much smarter man than Trump.

PatSeg

(47,244 posts)
69. We only had three networks
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:53 PM
Mar 2017

plus PBS back in those days. People had to rely on newspapers to get most of their news. It was a much different world in many ways.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
74. Much slower. No 24 hour news. Hour in the AM and hour in the PM plus Sunday shows and an
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:23 PM
Mar 2017

occasional evening special.

PatSeg

(47,244 posts)
78. Yes
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

And there were morning and evening editions of major newspapers. People relied heavily on newspapers. The evening news on TV was usually more of a brief recap. There breaking stories that would interrupt regular programming, but they were really big like the death of JFK. Also people still listened to the radio.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
6. Well, it's all grist for the mill.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

If there's something interesting in this dump, that will add to the rest.

If you're expecting someone to suddenly dump something that will force Trump out of office the same day, you're expecting too much. It won't happen. Instead, little by little, more information becomes available until there is enough to have that effect.

I'll be watching for this additional information this afternoon.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
10. I'm just hoping for something substantial, not necessarily resign-worthy.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:57 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe enough to get more of his voters to scratch their heads and see a pattern forming of who he is.

lame54

(35,260 posts)
12. i think what we expect is...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:00 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:52 PM - Edit history (1)

not to constantly be promised that smoking gun that will put him out of office

if, as you say, it doesn't exists they need to stop presenting every revelation as the one

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
15. People keep putting grains of powder in that gun, one at a time.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:06 PM
Mar 2017

Eventually, there will be enough in there to actually fire it. We have to stop expecting some single thing that is going to work.

Each grain is important, though. Patience is needed.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
19. You can still use the goddamned gun as a club!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:12 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Wed Mar 15, 2017, 05:48 PM - Edit history (1)

Sorry. I'm impatient.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
22. Even better, throw the gun at the foe.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:15 PM
Mar 2017

That always gets the job done. How many old movies do you have to see before you learn to do that, I wonder?

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,311 posts)
33. I hear you.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

I had pretty much given up on all cable news. These last several weeks has changed that.

But the over hype is getting a bit annoying.

One night Maddow does a great show on Trump shady business partners and I think "wow great show." The next next day I see MSNBC has a countdown going for her "Russia ties" show and I think "holy shit this must be big" -- pfft. More of the same. Certainly not worthy of a countdown.

They are getting the audience based on good in depth reporting. No need to go off the rails with hype. It's probably the MSNBC execs getting greedy.

theglammistress

(348 posts)
29. Exactly
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:39 PM
Mar 2017

I'm just so bewildered over the Maddow criticism - and people saying she committed career suicide on live TV. She got one of Trump's returns, so she reported it.

All these little bits build on each other. This will take time.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
30. There are lots and lots of impatient people.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:40 PM
Mar 2017

They can't stand to wait for anything, and pounce on anything they don't think is big enough. They can never be satisfied, really.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
7. It's always interesting to get new information.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 12:07 PM
Mar 2017

I hope it's good and clear enough for people to understand fairly quickly.

frogmarch

(12,153 posts)
25. I'm cautiously optimistic!!!!!!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:19 PM
Mar 2017
Scott Dworkin is the Founder and President of Bulldog Finance Group and was a Senior Advisor on both the Draft Biden and Run Warren Run campaigns. He is also a veteran of both the 2008 and 2012 Obama campaigns. To date, Scott has worked in all 50 states.. Scott also serves on the Advisory Boards for the New Leaders Council and Democratic GAIN. He was named to the Campaigns & Elections Magazine’s 2011 class of Rising Stars. He received a BA in Political Science and a BA in Sociology at North Carolina State University.


https://www.democraticcoalition.org/scott-dworkin

I hope this marks the beginning of the for-sure end of trump.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
31. Dworkin said "any minute now" over half an hour ago.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

Should have waited until it was all ready and then just dumped it. Announcing it in advance and then not making it on time is poor practice. I'm watching for this "dump." Maybe it will happen soon, or maybe Dworkin is blowing smoke up our leg.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
37. I guess the idea is to build some buzz.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:49 PM
Mar 2017

As if just doing the dump wouldn't create buzz fast enough.

Stupid move on Dworkin's part.

Dump or do not dump. There is no try.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
39. Here we go: 45 failed to disclose 6 businesses:
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 01:57 PM
Mar 2017

Scott Dworkin (@funder) tweeted at 5:06 PM on Tue, Mar 14, 2017:
#TrumpLeaks: Trump Lied to Office of Gov Ethics in 104-Page Financial Disclosure-Hid at least 6 Businesses

#trumprussia #russiagate #resist https://t.co/PBqDPBQsgx
(


?s=03)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
45. It's still pretty good stuff.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:10 PM
Mar 2017

But yeah, where's the dump? Are we being anal retentive?

He shouldn't have pre-announced; the Russkies had time to hack his server, and Trump had time to send muscle to his house.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
46. I tweeted at him.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:12 PM
Mar 2017

He has tweeted something else, but no data dumps, so far. I hope this is not bullshit. Go tweet back at him and ask where the hell the stuff he promised is.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
56. It's some sort of property assessment legal case on
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:24 PM
Mar 2017

a Trump property. I haven't read through all of the documents, which are dated back in the 1990s. I doubt it has much significance really, in terms of his presidency.

They're all fuzzy jpg images of papers, and hard to read.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
64. OK. I think I'm going to wait and let someone else
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:38 PM
Mar 2017

sort it all out. I hate reading fuzzy cell phone images of documents, so I'm not going to go any farther.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
66. That makes sense...and if he didn't report them...there may be a good reason for him not to do so.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:43 PM
Mar 2017

and doesn't that violate something?

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
65. The 90s is when Trump was having serious financial trouble and it is alleged / suspected that
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:43 PM
Mar 2017

the Russians (govt or financiers) saved him.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
62. I know.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:30 PM
Mar 2017

I'm going to have to wait until I can be on a larger screened device to make heads or tails of all this.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
70. Updated #TrumpRussia report from @TheDemCoalition to be released at 330pm ET
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:01 PM
Mar 2017

52s
Scott Dworkin‏ @funder
Updated #TrumpRussia report from @TheDemCoalition to be released at 330pm ET: The #DworkinReport on Trump's Russia ties

#russiagate #resist

https://mobile.twitter.com/funder/status/842087587405791232


Ok, so now I at least know I don't have to rush to go through the lawsuit files.

Response to herding cats (Reply #70)

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
76. I skimmed through the documents and it looks like a bunch of court documents that
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:33 PM
Mar 2017

someone photographed. I can't imagine that there is anything new in documents unless they were previously sealed.

C Moon

(12,208 posts)
57. It would be more respectable if they would just release /Tweet what they have,
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:24 PM
Mar 2017

and not Tweet vague grand headlines—after awhile, everyone assumes it's more clickbait.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
58. If you're looking for an example of egregious hype
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
Mar 2017

Scott Dworkin trumps Rachel Maddow, tiny hands down.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
59. So far
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:25 PM
Mar 2017

Looks like a publicity stunt of some sort.

Only 1995 crap and it's only about 30 files so far.. maybe this big dump is coming later on. Maybe they don't have it and they just want facebook likes.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
68. Maybe they meant 1:00 Saturnian time.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 02:48 PM
Mar 2017

Someone quick! Find out what time it is on Saturn!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]"There is a crack in everything. That's how the light gets in."
Leonard Cohen, Anthem (1992)
[/center][/font][hr]

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
75. It would be helpful if the jpg files had descriptive titles.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

Hard to make heads or tails with out a lot of clicking.

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