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SecularMotion

(7,981 posts)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:27 PM Mar 2017

Only 18 Percent Of Americans Can Drive Manual

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A new report shows fewer Americans own a car with manual transmission let alone know how to operate one. And there appear to be a number of reasons for it.

The report from U.S. News and World Report show only 18 percent of U.S. drivers know how to operate a stick shift. It says that because of advancements in automatic transmissions and fuel economy, only about 5 percent of vehicles sold in the U.S. today come with a stick shift. That’s down from 25 percent of cars in 1987.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2016/10/11/report-only-18-percent-of-americans-can-drive-manual/
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Only 18 Percent Of Americans Can Drive Manual (Original Post) SecularMotion Mar 2017 OP
I never learned how to drive a manual yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #1
I know how and prefer it. Got me around the world more easily. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #14
I have friend who love driving a manual and would never change yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #20
If you drive in the city, manual is a pain in the ass in traffic chelsea0011 Mar 2017 #2
My wife grew up on a farm titaniumsalute Mar 2017 #4
It really isn't. If you are used to driving stick, you don't notice. we can do it Mar 2017 #13
Try sitting on a freeway in SoCal rufus dog Mar 2017 #23
I agree. Driving stick in SoCal is awful. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #29
I'll see your SoCal and raise you San Francisco Retrograde Mar 2017 #112
Parallel parking on a hill in SF with a stick shift is even harder than driving in SF brush Mar 2017 #114
My Kia Soul with a manual transmission MineralMan Mar 2017 #149
My Mini Cooper stick has one too. Essential in a city with hills! nolabear Mar 2017 #161
I would think San Francisco GWC58 Mar 2017 #55
Even worse! rufus dog Mar 2017 #58
Ok I'll give you SF, but I wouldn't want to drive there, period. we can do it Mar 2017 #63
Seattle too cemaphonic Mar 2017 #92
I live there and I love it nolabear Mar 2017 #162
I live in San Francisco with a Ford Focus 5-speed. I love my stick-shift car- that's why I bought it NBachers Mar 2017 #125
I lived in SF for years CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #136
I did that for a few years. It wasn't the stick shift that made me miserable. hunter Mar 2017 #99
I hear you, I always wanted to live close to my work. That commute took too much Jim Beard Mar 2017 #113
Driving the 405 in L.A. hastened my left knee replacement MurrayDelph Mar 2017 #100
That's the only drawback I can see wryter2000 Mar 2017 #116
Well, I have done both and I will not ever go back to stick in the city chelsea0011 Mar 2017 #28
Nope. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #102
No thanks metroins Mar 2017 #121
It's not that bad hardluck Mar 2017 #110
Well, I can, my wife can, yagotme Mar 2017 #3
You should have seen the look my 80 year old dad gave me when I expressed... Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2017 #47
Heh. yagotme Mar 2017 #165
so glad to not have a stick anymore. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #5
Hills are a bear with sticks. nt Blue_true Mar 2017 #34
Morons in the making....Get off my LAWN!! Boxerfan Mar 2017 #6
I liked those little vent windows. I wish they still had them. LisaM Mar 2017 #10
That is funny to me rufus dog Mar 2017 #24
Power windows would be fine under water, once the pressure equalizes. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #85
People are starting not to know what "Rolling the window" means. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #82
"Rolling down the window" is, technically, an obsolete term still in use because....... WillowTree Mar 2017 #111
Open the window...close the window Grammy23 Mar 2017 #155
I miss the vent windows, too wryter2000 Mar 2017 #117
My husband can't LOL LeftInTX Mar 2017 #7
Neither can my husband. kstewart33 Mar 2017 #168
I like my manual trannies Dem2 Mar 2017 #8
That's another plus. And not likely to be stolen. we can do it Mar 2017 #18
One of the reasons I bought mine. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2017 #128
My dad insisted we learn GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #9
Having a manual car is a theft deterrent. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #11
True central scrutinizer Mar 2017 #76
It is fun to drive a manual, but not all the time. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #12
Glad I got rid of mine. I broke my shoulder, elbow and finger and it is tough driving them with kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #15
That's what we had when I started driving malaise Mar 2017 #16
Does it reduce the chance of auto theft if not many people know how to operate a no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #17
I think so we can do it Mar 2017 #94
I learned to drive with a vehicle that had three on the tree. Kaleva Mar 2017 #19
I learned with four on the floor Rorey Mar 2017 #86
Autos are so boring to me and it's getting hard to find a good stick shift NWCorona Mar 2017 #21
I love driving manual. Two of my vehicles are manual. RedWedge Mar 2017 #22
My dad had 3 on the column benld74 Mar 2017 #25
I shared driving across country on a four on the column wryter2000 Mar 2017 #118
I learned on a manual, a truck, going down a mountain with rock and red dirt roads. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #26
I learned in my late twenties samplegirl Mar 2017 #154
Hey! I love the feel of the gear shift in my hand. All that control. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #169
How many don't know how to use a typewriter? randome Mar 2017 #27
I agree, with modern technology, manual transmissions mean something only Blue_true Mar 2017 #49
AAA changes tires. I will keep my stick shift. we can do it Mar 2017 #95
I taught my husband and son sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #30
ok you've convinced me. ZOmbie apocalypse is serious business. JHan Mar 2017 #51
also used this one.. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #68
My mom uses similar arguments lol :p She's right about everything. everythinggggg JHan Mar 2017 #71
all mom's are.. sarah FAILIN Mar 2017 #75
Your daughter would burn up the clutch and the smoke would sicken the zombies. nt Blue_true Mar 2017 #52
I loved driving my stick shift... ButSeeYa Mar 2017 #31
I'm so glad ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #32
Not only can I drive a Manual shift, but I can also use a slide rule still_one Mar 2017 #33
Damn - haven't used a slide rule in almost 50 years. dhol82 Mar 2017 #40
My first Calculator was a TI, then moved up to HPs. A walk down memory lane still_one Mar 2017 #45
Still got my HP 28S from about 25 years ago. reflection Mar 2017 #148
HP were the best. Very solid RPNs. I still have an HP25C and HP67, and they still work. Lot of still_one Mar 2017 #151
I can extract a square root, House of Roberts Mar 2017 #50
but can you add, multiply, or divide without a calculator? still_one Mar 2017 #54
I can't - never learned how, no one in my family ever had one nadine_mn Mar 2017 #35
How do you double clutch in an automatic oldcynic Mar 2017 #36
I have a 2003 turbo WRX in bright yellow. :) dhol82 Mar 2017 #37
Cool car! we can do it Mar 2017 #96
Think of the bright side Remington Mar 2017 #38
Three on the tree jpak Mar 2017 #39
I own 2 manual cars. I can hardly drive an automatic. sinkingfeeling Mar 2017 #41
Been driving a stick since I was 16. House of Roberts Mar 2017 #42
And I'm one of them dflprincess Mar 2017 #43
Great thing to know, blew my knee cap/meniscus at 18.5 could never drive my manual again... NotThisTime Mar 2017 #44
I Never Learned Leith Mar 2017 #46
Recent story is that a carjacker got caught flamingdem Mar 2017 #48
So what? n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Mar 2017 #53
lol,how 'bout a column shift Go Vols Mar 2017 #56
And I can't make a rocking chair out of a tree stump. egduj Mar 2017 #57
Sad. There's a joy in handling decent manual car Panich52 Mar 2017 #59
Learned how to drive in a VW bug CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #84
Me too! Rorey Mar 2017 #88
I never had a Rabbit CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #93
Lucky you, re the camper Rorey Mar 2017 #105
That was my first car in 1964 dhol82 Mar 2017 #132
I remember the Blue Wonder as I called it ... CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #137
Mine was blue also dhol82 Mar 2017 #138
Only reason I chose automatics f/ last 2 cars was my Panich52 Mar 2017 #147
same here CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #156
I'm old (67) and I grew up in the country. I can drive most any truck or tractor or stick of any OregonBlue Mar 2017 #60
I can proudly say that I can! JesterCS Mar 2017 #61
My farm truck is a manual. Everyone here knows how to drive it riderinthestorm Mar 2017 #62
I never learned TlalocW Mar 2017 #64
Mazda CX5 manual transmission me, my husband, and two of ALBliberal Mar 2017 #65
Love my stick shift car zeusdogmom Mar 2017 #66
One of the less often mentioned advantages Cadfael Mar 2017 #67
Popping the clutch Rorey Mar 2017 #90
I had a 95 Hyundai that I regularly started that way on my own. Cadfael Mar 2017 #104
LOL, yeah, my kids had to learn in a stick too Rorey Mar 2017 #106
The very first car I bought was 1973 Fiat 128sl Cadfael Mar 2017 #109
Am I the only one who feels a sense nocalflea Mar 2017 #69
Fuel economy isn't really the issue for me Warpy Mar 2017 #70
Yep, stick shifts are much better in snow. we can do it Mar 2017 #98
All-wheel drive solves that problem. With the hills we have here I feel steadier in snow now pnwmom Mar 2017 #131
Even better is 4 wheel drive with a stick. NutmegYankee Mar 2017 #163
Not so great with some of our hills. I did it for 15 years but don't miss it a bit now. Also, pnwmom Mar 2017 #164
I know how to drive a stick shift. I also Ilsa Mar 2017 #72
Muncie Rock Crusher ftw Go Vols Mar 2017 #73
Ahh the M22 hardluck Mar 2017 #107
Automatic for me Freethinker65 Mar 2017 #74
I sometimes forget when I am driving a stick.... Historic NY Mar 2017 #77
I love driving stick and wish I still could. kysrsoze Mar 2017 #78
I don't usually but I can drive a stick-shift. neeksgeek Mar 2017 #79
it's been a long time but I used to drive a manual transmission truck Skittles Mar 2017 #80
Most of us can't operate a horse and buggy either; who the fuck cares? nt Codeine Mar 2017 #81
lol,they don't sell those new anymore at the dealer Go Vols Mar 2017 #83
Seems like most serious car enthusiasts or purist prefer sticks. Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #87
I learned on a manuel but have not driven one for years. Doreen Mar 2017 #89
Old tractor Bayard Mar 2017 #91
I learned to drive a manual transmission on a WW II era Willys Jeep my dad used in his orchard mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #97
Tell him to keep his s2000 forever hardluck Mar 2017 #108
He got a very good deal buying it used from someone. mnhtnbb Mar 2017 #142
When her manual died, my 26 year old daughter insisted on replacing it with another manual. Ms. Toad Mar 2017 #101
I Am One Of That 18% colsohlibgal Mar 2017 #103
Love my stick shift wryter2000 Mar 2017 #115
l learned to drive on a manual, but I don't think I would have much luck these days xor Mar 2017 #119
Proud 18% here! tenderfoot Mar 2017 #120
My German mini-SUV lets the driver choose manual or auto... VOX Mar 2017 #122
I can drive a stick, but hated... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #123
My granddaughter will likely never learn to drive at all. JTFrog Mar 2017 #124
When I was in high school.... chillfactor Mar 2017 #126
Manuals are all I've ever driven and still do to this day. arthritisR_US Mar 2017 #127
And your point is?It used to be called "a standard" when I was a kid (I'm now 69) but it long ago... Hekate Mar 2017 #129
We switched when the fuel economy numbers became virtually the same. pnwmom Mar 2017 #130
I buy cheap useD cars. Really prefer stick dembotoz Mar 2017 #133
Don't worry, big diesel trucks are now also switching to automatic transmisions nolabels Mar 2017 #134
I love my stick. LWolf Mar 2017 #135
I'm in that number! Blue_Tires Mar 2017 #139
I learned too drive a stick in the army. It was a crash course. shockey80 Mar 2017 #140
I tried to learn. I really did. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #141
I know how lillypaddle Mar 2017 #143
I couldn't find a manual transmission the last time I bought a car. alarimer Mar 2017 #144
and in related news, only .5% of Americans know how to ride a horse. cbdo2007 Mar 2017 #145
What seems strange to me is the way horses ride people nolabels Mar 2017 #167
I learned to drive ellie Mar 2017 #146
Even fewer know the difference between manual and semi-automatic. Orsino Mar 2017 #150
Trannys are so much better and more economical nowadays, marybourg Mar 2017 #152
I learned how after my brother went to Vietnam and left his MG midget redstatebluegirl Mar 2017 #153
I would like to know what percentage know how to check fluids or change a tire? LOL Lib Mar 2017 #157
Funny Stick Shift Story ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #158
I can drive one DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #159
Growing up on farms can guarantee you know how to drive manual. Foamfollower Mar 2017 #160
my entire family can drive a manual transmission spanone Mar 2017 #166
The biggest challenge is driving shift in England Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #170

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
4. My wife grew up on a farm
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:34 PM
Mar 2017

She always swore she'd always drive a na manual. Then we moved to Palm Beach County Florida and she had a 30 minute drive to work...mostly side streets. That ended that.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
23. Try sitting on a freeway in SoCal
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:45 PM
Mar 2017

I didn't mind my manual when driving to work, but then having to go rush hour into LA it became a PAIN IN THE ASS!

 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
29. I agree. Driving stick in SoCal is awful.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:00 PM
Mar 2017

Sitting in traffic is bad enough without having to play with the clutch the whole time.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
112. I'll see your SoCal and raise you San Francisco
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:21 AM
Mar 2017

I got my first non-manual car about 3 years ago, after having driven manuals since I started driving in 1974. We bought it because there weren't any manuals available in the make we wanted unless we wanted to wait several months - and pay more. Dealing with the clutch on relatively flat land is not a big deal. The first time I had to go through San Francisco and found I could stop for a light on the top of a hill and start again without requiring 3 feet and a hand brake I decided an automatic had its advantages.

I still keep reaching for the passenger's knee whenever I think I should be shifting, though.

brush

(53,769 posts)
114. Parallel parking on a hill in SF with a stick shift is even harder than driving in SF
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:31 AM
Mar 2017

Those "Curb your wheels" signs are not joking.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
149. My Kia Soul with a manual transmission
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:35 PM
Mar 2017

has a hill holder feature. If you're on a hill, when you take your foot off the brake, the brake stays applied until the car begins to move in gear, then it releases. I haven't driven it in SF, but it works perfectly on every hill I've been on. I'm not sure, but I suspect the same feature is on a lot of new manual transmission vehicles.

Notably, it is a 6-speed. When I was a young guy, only racing cars had six-speed transmissions. I can assure you that a Kia Soul is not a racing car, but the 6-speed is fun.

The two top gears are overdrive gears, so they're useless unless you're going at least 45 MPH. And oddly, the top speed in that little car, which is approximately 113 MPH, can only be achieved in 4th gear at 7250 RPM, the car's red line. The two higher gears won't redline the engine. They're for maximum fuel economy only and cruising on the freeway.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
161. My Mini Cooper stick has one too. Essential in a city with hills!
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

I've never owned an automatic except an ill considered minivan that I hated so badly that I ditched it in less than a year. Sadly I might have to go automatic due to old knees. 😩 I'm trying to decide whether an automatic Mini is just embarrassing.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
55. I would think San Francisco
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:24 PM
Mar 2017

would be a royal pain driving a manual transmission. I sure wouldn't want to!

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
58. Even worse!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Mar 2017

I did need to rent a car in SF once to get out to Tahoe, they asked if I could drive a shift! Sure no problem. The wife wanted to go down Lombard Street on our way out. No Problem going down, getting back to the freeway was a major pain! Once we got back from Tahoe the car was immediately turned in and back to public transportation and walking.

cemaphonic

(4,138 posts)
92. Seattle too
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:09 PM
Mar 2017

Steep hills + heavy traffic 24/7 makes driving manual intolerable. I know how, and have had to do it occasionally, but outside of a true emergency, I'd rather ride the bus.

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
162. I live there and I love it
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:25 PM
Mar 2017

Sadly the knees are getting old but I'm resisting. That roll back prevention clutch is fabulous.

NBachers

(17,107 posts)
125. I live in San Francisco with a Ford Focus 5-speed. I love my stick-shift car- that's why I bought it
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:38 AM
Mar 2017

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
136. I lived in SF for years
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:34 AM
Mar 2017

and I drove a stick shift the whole time. I got really got good at parallel parking my little VW/Honda SE on those steep hills!

It was hard on the clutch though! I think I went through 3 of them on a Toyota Corolla I had for awhile.





hunter

(38,311 posts)
99. I did that for a few years. It wasn't the stick shift that made me miserable.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:29 PM
Mar 2017

I could shift gears effortlessly, automatically, without thinking. I still can.

It was the utter waste of my life commuting that got to me. I resent every second I've ever spent sitting in a fucking car, especially the times I've been caught in heavy traffic..

Cars are among the most awful things humans have ever invented. They are right up there with nuclear weapons and just as deadly..

The "freedom" of automobile ownership is a sick illusion. Automobiles are tools of "Papers Please" fascism.

Hitler, Volkswagen and Autobahns... not a coincidence. Wear a license plate on your butt wherever you go.

When my wife and I met we were Los Angeles commuters on 15 mph freeways. My bicycle could be faster, but that was fraught with much greater danger to life and limb. And showing up at work stinking of fear-sweat wasn't a good idea. The piranhas of human-kind smell that.

Riding my bicycle I've been hit by cars and so has my wife. It impresses upon a bicycle rider the importance of helmets.

By some planning and greater good fortune my wife and I have avoided the automobile commuter lifestyle since the mid 'eighties.

I can walk to my office in my underwear, a cup of coffee in one hand. We can see my wife's workplace from the balcony of our house.

The U.S.A. could be a better place by building walkable urban areas with good public transportation. I have nephews and nieces living in San Francisco and Seattle. They don't own cars but sometimes they rent them. That should be the "normal" we strive for.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
113. I hear you, I always wanted to live close to my work. That commute took too much
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:21 AM
Mar 2017

time out of my life.

MurrayDelph

(5,293 posts)
100. Driving the 405 in L.A. hastened my left knee replacement
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:36 PM
Mar 2017

and caused me to trade in my Honda Accord for a Prius.

chelsea0011

(10,115 posts)
28. Well, I have done both and I will not ever go back to stick in the city
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:00 PM
Mar 2017

Especially, when I want a drink from my coffee cup

Ms. Toad

(34,065 posts)
102. Nope.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:41 PM
Mar 2017

Not if you are an experienced manual driver. I've driven in pretty much any terrain or traffic. I much prefer manual.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
121. No thanks
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:56 AM
Mar 2017

stop and go is a hassle for a manual.

I prefer the clutch, it gives me control, but in traffic it is 3x the work.

hardluck

(638 posts)
110. It's not that bad
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:16 AM
Mar 2017

Did it for 15 years in LA traffic. Only time I regretted it was when a fire shut down the 118 and it took me 5 hours to get home in bumper to bumper traffic. That day sucked!

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
3. Well, I can, my wife can,
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:33 PM
Mar 2017

but we're older, so I guess we learned "the old-timey way". My first vehicle was a stick, and currently have one that is.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,325 posts)
47. You should have seen the look my 80 year old dad gave me when I expressed...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

... surprise he could drive a stick.

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
165. Heh.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:32 AM
Mar 2017

When he learned, it was most likely the only game in town. My dad learned to drive with long leather straps and "Giddyup" and "Whoa".

Boxerfan

(2,533 posts)
6. Morons in the making....Get off my LAWN!!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:34 PM
Mar 2017

Ok so yeah I'm old & yeah I drive a stick.

I would miss so much of the experience -especially in a good nimble well suited car on a windy road to nowhere-without shifting and clutching at the best of my abilities.

Maybe a little wiff of Kendal and a dash of British Racing green would make it perfect. But any good car- a Miata for example-is a joy to drive for recreation. My VW bus is not such a vehicle but the VW auto's are problematic at best.

I demand they bring back dial radio's & roll up windows. And VENT windows for criminies sake. Kids asked me what they were for-direct & free air ya dummies...

Grumble grumble grumble...

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
10. I liked those little vent windows. I wish they still had them.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:38 PM
Mar 2017

I don't miss rolling the window up and down, but I do worry about emergencies if the power windows fail.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
24. That is funny to me
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

My dad always said that about power windows, 'what if we crash into a lake?' We lived in Phx, finally when I was about 15 I blurted out, we are in the middle of a damn desert.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
85. Power windows would be fine under water, once the pressure equalizes.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

Manual windows will have the same issues as power windows. Once the pressure is the same on both sides of the window, they will operate.

12 Volt systems will not "short out" in water. The water will eventually ruin the motors, but that will take some time, longer than one can hold their breath. If you go into the water in a car, get the windows down immediately, or break them.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
82. People are starting not to know what "Rolling the window" means.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:15 PM
Mar 2017

Power windows are mostly standard.

WillowTree

(5,325 posts)
111. "Rolling down the window" is, technically, an obsolete term still in use because.......
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:19 AM
Mar 2017

.......we haven't come up with a more currently-appropriate term. Not unlike "dialing the phone" or "hanging-up the phone".

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
7. My husband can't LOL
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:35 PM
Mar 2017

I warned him about parking my manual transmission car on a hill.
Guess what happened?

That was about 35 years ago. I haven't driven a manual in over 30 years. I have no idea if I would remember.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
168. Neither can my husband.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 12:04 PM
Mar 2017

I drove manual for decades, beginning with a rickety old VW bug in high school. Loved it because I felt more in complete control of the car.

Nowadays, manual has gone missing. A shame. Manual driving would surely reduce the amount of texting while driving.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
8. I like my manual trannies
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:36 PM
Mar 2017

Though I don't really care what a person's preference is.

Positive side? My kids/mostly anybody else never ask to borrow my car.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,366 posts)
128. One of the reasons I bought mine.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:10 AM
Mar 2017

Read several stories of stolen cars where the thief gets a block and gives up

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
9. My dad insisted we learn
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:37 PM
Mar 2017

Both my sister and I both learned on a stick before being allowed to drive an automatic.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
11. Having a manual car is a theft deterrent.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:38 PM
Mar 2017


Glad my Dad made me learn on a stick. Scared the shit out of Dad when I stalled it crossing a one way.

Put IT Gear!

LMFAO

central scrutinizer

(11,648 posts)
76. True
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:05 PM
Mar 2017

There was a car jacking a few years ago where the perp jumped in the car but didn't know how to drive a stick, promptly stalled it and got busted.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
12. It is fun to drive a manual, but not all the time.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:39 PM
Mar 2017

I learned how to drive a manual when I lived in Europe. It was great fun!

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
15. Glad I got rid of mine. I broke my shoulder, elbow and finger and it is tough driving them with
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:40 PM
Mar 2017

any type of injury. Then it was hurting my knee to be pressing down on the clutch. Not good if you're over 50.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
86. I learned with four on the floor
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:28 PM
Mar 2017

One time I had the misfortune of needing to drive an old truck that my father-in-law owned that had the shift "on the tree". I broke it. He wasn't happy with me. I think it was sort of his fault because he told me it was just like driving my four on the floor. It wasn't.

NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
21. Autos are so boring to me and it's getting hard to find a good stick shift
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:44 PM
Mar 2017

My newest car does have a 6sd twin disc paddle shift automatic but that was the only option.

benld74

(9,904 posts)
25. My dad had 3 on the column
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:51 PM
Mar 2017

Drove that for awhile.
Helped me get Illinois Power summer jobs during my first 2 years college. Had to drive these HUGE crew trucks, manual all the way!
Later showed early gfriend how to properly shift her MG. She thought I was killing her baby,,,we never lasted, neither did that car

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
26. I learned on a manual, a truck, going down a mountain with rock and red dirt roads.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

Steep penalty for losing control. I love manual.

Had to do it in the rain, as well. Learned to get tires out of mud with tree limbs and gravel.

Mind you, I have neither been up nor down that mountain since.

samplegirl

(11,476 posts)
154. I learned in my late twenties
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:01 PM
Mar 2017

In a Honda prelude! Good thing I learned or I couldn't drive my sports car.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
169. Hey! I love the feel of the gear shift in my hand. All that control.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 05:37 PM
Mar 2017

Well, it feels like total control anyway.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. How many don't know how to use a typewriter?
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 08:59 PM
Mar 2017

I can drive a manual. But why would anyone in the 21st century want to?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
49. I agree, with modern technology, manual transmissions mean something only
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

to hardcore car people. Automatic transmissions provide all types of advantages, especially if one has to change a flat tire.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
30. I taught my husband and son
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:01 PM
Mar 2017

Tried to teach my daughter and she refused to attempt it. My argument was you never know when you have to make a quick get a way from zombies and a stick is the only thing there.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
68. also used this one..
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:37 PM
Mar 2017

Kidnapped in the backwoods by Melvin and his cousin/brother. The only vehicle is a stick and you slipped the ropes loose while they were wrasslin'.

Driving a stick is a valuable skill. You never know when it will come in handy

ButSeeYa

(273 posts)
31. I loved driving my stick shift...
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:01 PM
Mar 2017

I felt I had more control of the car, especially while driving in snow/ice. Then, I had my daughter. It was hard to console a crying infant while reaching back to stroke her head or hold her tiny hand, while simultaneously driving a stick shift.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
40. Damn - haven't used a slide rule in almost 50 years.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:11 PM
Mar 2017

Still remember my first calculator.
Such a joke. It was from Radio Shack, cost $125 and did almost nothing.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
148. Still got my HP 28S from about 25 years ago.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:34 PM
Mar 2017

Still works great. Dropped it more times than I can remember, burned through scores of batteries, it just keeps chugging. A lovely piece of kit.

still_one

(92,152 posts)
151. HP were the best. Very solid RPNs. I still have an HP25C and HP67, and they still work. Lot of
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:49 PM
Mar 2017

memories

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
50. I can extract a square root,
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

with a pencil and paper, and with a trig table, I can solve CNC machining toolpaths on paper too. it is nicer to use CAD/CAM, but I could get along without it, if I had to.

oldcynic

(385 posts)
36. How do you double clutch in an automatic
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:08 PM
Mar 2017

I remember doing rapid things with the pedals to rock my beloved 1959 Willys pickup out of mud. And very rapid things with the pedals to keep from stalling on steep hills in a 1940s VW bug. And I still worry about opening the windows in the lake.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
37. I have a 2003 turbo WRX in bright yellow. :)
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:09 PM
Mar 2017

LOVE IT!

Have had several sticks over the years. Got an automatic once and then went back to the stick.
Won't drive it in the city though. Pain in the ass in heavy traffic.

House of Roberts

(5,168 posts)
42. Been driving a stick since I was 16.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:15 PM
Mar 2017

I have an automatic in a 1983 El Camino. Everything else is 5 speeds, including my 1994 Ford Ranger. I can baby a manual longer when it needs work, than I can an automatic, and the repairs I can do in house.

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
43. And I'm one of them
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

I've owned nothing but manuals and I'm not comfortable driving an automatic. But, my current manual may be my last one. I think as a concession to age the next car may be automatic...maybe not. I'm keeping the current Civic for as along as I can, then I'll decide.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
46. I Never Learned
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:18 PM
Mar 2017

In high school, the driver's ed teacher said that they stopped teaching stick because soon everything would be automatic. So much for his predictive powers.

Now, I like to say that I paid enough for the car and it can shift its own dang gears.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
48. Recent story is that a carjacker got caught
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

cuz he couldn't use a stick! That makes me feel safer that my 5 speed won't get stolen anytime soon. It's nervewracking to hand over the keys these days though, you know they're faking it at the valet sometimes.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
56. lol,how 'bout a column shift
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:25 PM
Mar 2017

Had a few of these thru the years.



Edit: my kid just bought a 7 speed manual Vette with a paddle shift on the steering wheel,its pretty cool.

egduj

(805 posts)
57. And I can't make a rocking chair out of a tree stump.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:25 PM
Mar 2017

But it's the 21st century so I don't have to. If I want a rocking chair I can just go to the store and buy one.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
59. Sad. There's a joy in handling decent manual car
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:28 PM
Mar 2017

My first driving experience was Dad letting me try his 59 Ford wagon w/ T-bird engine. First new car I bought was manual 82 Charger (should have waited year f/ 4th gear they added).

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
84. Learned how to drive in a VW bug
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

After I learned to drive a stick shift on a VW, I got one for myself eventually. I had a real cool one too, a 1968 with a sunroof on it. I watched it roll over to 100,000 miles on it after crossing Donner Pass in the High Sierras.

Those were good times in America when it was still a free country and now it seems to have gone *poof* IMO.



Rorey

(8,445 posts)
88. Me too!
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:39 PM
Mar 2017

I had forgotten all about that bug. It was my first husband's and it was in pretty bad shape, but it was fun to drive. My current husband used to enjoy working on Rabbit engines and owned quite a few Rabbits. I loved those cars. I kinda wish we had kept at least one of them around, but at the time he was somewhat of a Rabbit hoarder. He had 23 and finally decided it was no longer for him and sold them, one by one. He actually still does have a VW Pickup. Hasn't touched it in about a decade. I've tried to talk him into selling it because he's never ever going to work on it and someone would no doubt enjoy it.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
93. I never had a Rabbit
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:12 PM
Mar 2017

However, I had a VW Westfalia camper for awhile. That was the one with the pop-top on it. It was great fun and I wish I still had it!

The last stick shift I had was a Honda Civic SE.



Rorey

(8,445 posts)
105. Lucky you, re the camper
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:59 PM
Mar 2017

I bet that was a blast!

My general opinion is if you're not going to use it, get rid of it. Let someone else enjoy it. My husband is a collector and I'm a minimalist. It has been a constant battle. I told him if I ever woke up one morning and he, um, didn't, I would call for one of those big roll-off dumpsters before I even bothered to call the coroner. He thinks I'm joking.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
132. That was my first car in 1964
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:49 AM
Mar 2017

Went to pick it up and the guy said, 'Do you know how to drive a stick?'
I said, 'no,' and he gave me an overview. Drove it home and have loved a stick ever since.
Remember driving it cross country and trying to have a race with a VW camper going up a mountain in Wyoming. We were chugging at full speed - around 20 mph.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
137. I remember the Blue Wonder as I called it ...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:38 AM
Mar 2017

It could barely go over Mosquito Lake in the High Sierras where the altitude was over 8,000 ft. Little oxygen in the air and S L OW I went like it or not.

I never wanted to sell this car! Finally my late father convinced me to do it and I ended up with a Toyota Corolla, a car I never really liked that much after having that bug!



dhol82

(9,352 posts)
138. Mine was blue also
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:42 AM
Mar 2017

Wanted to keep it forever but I moved to NYC and it became too much of a hassle to move it every day.
Still miss my baby.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
147. Only reason I chose automatics f/ last 2 cars was my
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:26 PM
Mar 2017

lack of left leg. W/ prosthetic I can still drive stick, but can't risk problems may occur w/ pros & leave me w/o transportation.

CountAllVotes

(20,868 posts)
156. same here
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:07 PM
Mar 2017

I realized I was not lifting my left foot off of the clutch because I could not.

After that I had to get an automatic car which I still have today.

If I could I still would though!

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
60. I'm old (67) and I grew up in the country. I can drive most any truck or tractor or stick of any
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:29 PM
Mar 2017

kind. I have an automatic and have for years and it's just so nice and easy but we had an absolute killer winter with tons of black ice and I had to use our 4 wheel drive manual old Nissan Pathfinder a lot. Was very glad I knew how or I would have been pretty much stuck. We will teach our grandkids how to drive it as well. Never know when they might need to drive a manual. Just another handy thing to know and who knows, they may end up working for one of the ranchers around here summers and most of the big farm trucks are still manual.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
62. My farm truck is a manual. Everyone here knows how to drive it
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:30 PM
Mar 2017

Includes my daughters and staff (8 of us total atm).

The old 3020 JD tractor that pulls the manure spreader is also a manual and yup, we all know how to drive that too.

Have had several stick shift cars including a new VW Beetle but freely admit they're a pain to drive in traffic and at this point, I doubt I'd buy a stick unless I won the lottery and could indulge in one of the beautiful old British sports cars.

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
64. I never learned
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:32 PM
Mar 2017

And you would think that growing up in a small farming community, it would be part of driver's ed, but nope. Depending on the day, we drove either a normal sedan or a Chevy Suburban to get used to driving bigger vehicles you would find in such a place. Stick would have made sense though.

My brother, when he bought his first post-high school car in the mid-90s either wanted to save money or thought driving stick would make him look more macho, and bought him a manual transmission car. Then had to call a friend to come to the dealer to teach him how to drive it.

I imagine it's helpful if driving in other countries. I remember visiting Mexico and taking a bus from Mexico City to Puebla to visit a friend. She and her boyfriend picked me up at the station. He had a broken right arm, so he drove the car, and she worked the gear shift, and they did it perfectly together.

TlalocW

ALBliberal

(2,339 posts)
65. Mazda CX5 manual transmission me, my husband, and two of
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:33 PM
Mar 2017

Three kids can drive it. Teaching the kids was very hard and yet so very rewarding. I hope to own a stick shift as long as they make them. Once they learned how to stop and start on a hill... They got it!

zeusdogmom

(990 posts)
66. Love my stick shift car
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

It is a little Mazda3. Zoom! Zoom! So much fun to drive - even in bad city traffic. My daughters learned to drive manual transmission - cranky old boat of a Volvo. It became a badge of honor - there were very few kids in high school who could drive anything the came their way. My girls could.

Cadfael

(1,296 posts)
67. One of the less often mentioned advantages
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

We never had to carry jumper cables in our 73 VW bus that had an intermittent electrical fault. Just give it a nudge and pop the clutch.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
90. Popping the clutch
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:43 PM
Mar 2017

I took my kids on a trip in my VW Rabbit quite a few years ago. It developed some sort of problem and wouldn't start a few times. The kids came in handy when I needed a push. Those Rabbits were so small you could practically push them fast enough by yoursef to pop the clutch. And sometimes I did.

Cadfael

(1,296 posts)
104. I had a 95 Hyundai that I regularly started that way on my own.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

Open the door, push on the door frame, hop in and pop the clutch. It helps if there's any kind of downward slope to work with....

I taught my eldest to drive in that Hyundai. The little snot was very dismissive when I was explaining the theory behind the actions. He got behind the wheel and got this shocked look on his face when the car did that "shudder - shudder - cough- die" thing a manual transmission does if you don't know what you're doing. He'd spent his whole life riding in my stick shift cars with me and figured if his old mom could do it, there must be nothing to it! Ah, the hubris of callow youth.

Cadfael

(1,296 posts)
109. The very first car I bought was 1973 Fiat 128sl
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:14 AM
Mar 2017

5 speed with a manual choke (if you can believe that, lol). I had no idea how to drive it, drivers ed was in an automatic. Fortunately both my parents learned pre-automatic transmission, and taught me....my folks were born in the twenties and had me rather late in life. My mom actually learned on a model T! UNfortunately, no one explained the narrow gate between first and third gears, so I spent my first few months (& one clutch) starting in third gear. It was especially exciting at lights on steep upward hills.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
69. Am I the only one who feels a sense
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:37 PM
Mar 2017

of superiority in my ability to drive a manual transmission ?

This thread proves I'm not alone.

And I usually deplore smugness. But now , I'm happily swimming it.

Great thread .Great memories.

Warpy

(111,247 posts)
70. Fuel economy isn't really the issue for me
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 09:40 PM
Mar 2017

Automatic transmissions are pigs in snow and we get snow here in NM. Stick shift is much easier to cope with.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
131. All-wheel drive solves that problem. With the hills we have here I feel steadier in snow now
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:49 AM
Mar 2017

with the all-wheel drive, even with the automatic.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
163. Even better is 4 wheel drive with a stick.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:18 AM
Mar 2017

I think of it as a truck with enhanced theft prevention.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
164. Not so great with some of our hills. I did it for 15 years but don't miss it a bit now. Also,
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:20 AM
Mar 2017

we have more of a problem with rain, and all wheel is also good in that.

hardluck

(638 posts)
107. Ahh the M22
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:06 AM
Mar 2017

Had the M21 in my 70 Camaro. 4 speed hurst shifter. Learned to drive stick on that.

My favorite stick was aisen 6 speed in my Honda S2000. So smooth. Loved shifting at 9000 rpm.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
77. I sometimes forget when I am driving a stick....
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:07 PM
Mar 2017

but having old cars pretty soon your doing it like forever. Three on the tree gives me a go. New auto transmissions come in a variety of speeds and gears, some now are 10 speeds, most people wouldn't know how to shift that many. Many today have a manual feature and paddle shifter to help you shift manually....only practical in some conditions.

kysrsoze

(6,019 posts)
78. I love driving stick and wish I still could.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:08 PM
Mar 2017

I learned to drive with a manual transmission and recently had an Infiniti G with a manual. That was a blast to drive, even though the clutch was way too heavy. But living in Chicago and having to do that all the time in traffic, particularly in winter, was enough. Now I'm in L.A., and it would be insane to drive a manual here too.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
79. I don't usually but I can drive a stick-shift.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:09 PM
Mar 2017

My previous car - a much-missed Mazda Protege 5 - had an automatic with full manual override, i.e. clutchless manual shifting if you wanted it. That was nice and useful. But I can still drive a stick if I need to. It's like swimming, don't do it often but it's a useful survival skill.

Go Vols

(5,902 posts)
83. lol,they don't sell those new anymore at the dealer
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:20 PM
Mar 2017

commercials on my TV daily advertising 2017 manual shift cars.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
87. Seems like most serious car enthusiasts or purist prefer sticks.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:37 PM
Mar 2017

Those of us just wanting to get from point A to point B prefer automatics. I remember telling someone that I didn't understand why they manufacture manuals anymore since they know how to make automatics. He looked at me like I was an absolute cretin.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
89. I learned on a manuel but have not driven one for years.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 10:41 PM
Mar 2017

I could probably drive one again after killing it a few times. I have an automatic now though because I had bad knees that never could have handled all of that shifting. I like automatics better anyway and by the time I got my last car automatics and manuals pretty much did not differ on savings with gas.

Bayard

(22,061 posts)
91. Old tractor
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:02 PM
Mar 2017

I didn't learn to drive one until I bought my old '51 Ford 8N Tractor. Loved that thing, and miss it way more than I miss my ex. I can drive a stick shift car, I just choose not to.

mnhtnbb

(31,384 posts)
97. I learned to drive a manual transmission on a WW II era Willys Jeep my dad used in his orchard
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:19 PM
Mar 2017

in the late 60's. My first car was a 4 speed Datsun (pre-Nissan) 510. And I drove nothing but manual transmission cars for years
until about 2004 when I switched to automatic only because I couldn't find the car I wanted--in the color I wanted (red)-- in a manual
transmission. When I traded that car in 2009, same thing, so still driving automatic.

My older brother never did learn how to drive a manual transmission.

My husband currently drives a manual transmission on his 13 year old Miata.

I taught my oldest son (30) to drive a manual transmission and he now drives autocross for fun here in NC in his Honda S2000. He still
has his first car-- now 14 year old Altima-- with a manual transmission that he drove with his partner cross country last May. His partner
had to learn how to drive manual transmission so they could take turns with the driving on that long road trip.

Ms. Toad

(34,065 posts)
101. When her manual died, my 26 year old daughter insisted on replacing it with another manual.
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:39 PM
Mar 2017

She loves it!

She's been teaching her friends to drive her manual

Unfortunately, the car I wanted was sought after enough (and no longer made) that my current car is not a manual, since I had to choose from the few that were available. So she's the only one currently driving a manual.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
103. I Am One Of That 18%
Wed Mar 15, 2017, 11:48 PM
Mar 2017

I learned under duress at 18. I was working in the office of a photo developing company in downtown Columbus. One day both people who ran some errands using the company van were gone so I got tagged to do it. I told my Boss I had never driven a stick and our van had one. He was a jerk so he got out an index card, quickly marked down the gears so off I went.

I stalled it about 15 times but got better as I went and just by circumstance I have been driving a mamual the last 8-9 years....once you learn it is easy.

My sister actually prefers them.

xor

(1,204 posts)
119. l learned to drive on a manual, but I don't think I would have much luck these days
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 12:53 AM
Mar 2017

Short of the "fun" aspect that some people claim, is there any benefit to manual transmissions?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
122. My German mini-SUV lets the driver choose manual or auto...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

There's no floor clutch, obviously, but you can still control the actual shifting of gears manually if you're feeling sporty. Or go to full automatic if you just want to relax (insofar as possible while driving).

The zippy car was a retirement gift to myself. The way I keep up my cars and baby them, this may be my last set of wheels!

3catwoman3

(23,973 posts)
123. I can drive a stick, but hated...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:18 AM
Mar 2017

...having to stop for a red light on a hill. Very scary, expecially if some jerk behind you has to pull right up on your bumper and not leave you any room to roll backwards a bit.

I always wished for a third leg and foot so I could have one on the gas, one on the clutch, and one on the brake.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
124. My granddaughter will likely never learn to drive at all.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:24 AM
Mar 2017

By the time she is old enough, I suspect vehicles will be self-driving.

chillfactor

(7,574 posts)
126. When I was in high school....
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:54 AM
Mar 2017

and it was time fo me to start driver's training, I signed up for automatic transmission. My father made me go back and change it to manual transmission. I have never ever been sorry...I can drive any vehicle with a manual or automatic transmission. I always drove vehicles with manual transmissions until I got older and arthritis settled in my knees and made it difficult for me to drive. But, if I had to I could still drive a manual transmission.

Hekate

(90,645 posts)
129. And your point is?It used to be called "a standard" when I was a kid (I'm now 69) but it long ago...
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:34 AM
Mar 2017

...ceased being the standard for cars.

My ex-husband was convinced that the only way for me to learn to drive was on a stick shift, and it was a miserable exercise. At 30 I found a driving school, and when I timidly explained to my instructor that I had to learn on a manual transmission he scoffed and said nobody did that. I learned to drive much more easily after that.

The next big thing apparently is going to be driverless cars, at which point all that will be moot.

pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
130. We switched when the fuel economy numbers became virtually the same.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 04:41 AM
Mar 2017

With Seattle's hills, the manuals weren't always fun to drive.

The only thing I've regretted is not being able to teach our kids.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
133. I buy cheap useD cars. Really prefer stick
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 06:59 AM
Mar 2017

1because the market is smaller u may get more car for the buck
2manual trans hold up better and may not be total death sentence for the car if it goes

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
134. Don't worry, big diesel trucks are now also switching to automatic transmisions
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 07:20 AM
Mar 2017

They seem to me even harder to drive because the clutch is more your friend when you are moving one of those things around. Yea, the big thing, fuel economy goes way up when the powertrain has its own independent monkeys running the show

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
135. I love my stick.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 09:22 AM
Mar 2017

It's not as great in town, of course, but still not bad. I drive a lot of roads with light traffic; I can get to work, 13 miles away, with no stoplights and 3 stop signs. People with automatic transmissions irritate the hell out of me; they're always riding their brakes, and when I see the brake lights flashing, I think there's a reason to brake when there's not. I don't have to use my brakes to slow down. That's probably why they last so long. My current ride is 13 years old and has about 120K, and still doing great with the original brakes (and clutch).

My grandson is old enough for a permit; he's going to learn with a manual transmission before he ever gets to drive an automatic.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
140. I learned too drive a stick in the army. It was a crash course.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:46 AM
Mar 2017

It was during the cuban boat lift. We got orders to go to Fort McCoy Wis. The first night there they woke me early to go sign out a vehicle. It was a jeep. Never drove a stick before. I had to learn on my own how to drive it.. It was so funny. The stick in a army jeep is tough to learn. It's not like a car. It's tricky. I stalled that jeep so many times i lost count. People were laughing at me.

Finally a army buddy told me, Start out in 2nd gear and he showed me how to get into 3rd gear which is very tricky at first. By the 2nd day i had it under control.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
141. I tried to learn. I really did.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:48 AM
Mar 2017

In the end, I ultimately burnt out the clutch on my parent's car and from that point on, I just stuck to automatic.

lillypaddle

(9,580 posts)
143. I know how
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:27 PM
Mar 2017

and taught my son how. Loved that you could always start a "dead" car by popping the clutch. Sure wouldn't want to drive in San Francisco, though. Yikes!

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
144. I couldn't find a manual transmission the last time I bought a car.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

Had to settle for an automatic. I will not make that mistake again. It doesn't matter so much with boring, run-of-the-mill cars, but with sports cars, it had better be a manual or no deal.

The MX-5 Miata should be driven manually, otherwise it's a complete waste of time.

In any case most cars in Europe are manual, so good luck, Americans, when you go rent a car, if you don't know how.

cbdo2007

(9,213 posts)
145. and in related news, only .5% of Americans know how to ride a horse.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:53 PM
Mar 2017

Yet 150 years ago everyone knew how to ride a horse. Weird.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
167. What seems strange to me is the way horses ride people
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 11:52 AM
Mar 2017

or at least part of this strange equation in my neck of the suburbia. Costs thousands of dollars and untold hours in personal time for care of the animal and the only thing a human gets out it rides here and there. The horse has little to say in the agreement to the companionship it but sure seems like an inequitable trade for the human

ellie

(6,929 posts)
146. I learned to drive
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

a stick with my father screaming at me from the passenger seat of a 1974 AMC Gremlin. Good times.

marybourg

(12,620 posts)
152. Trannys are so much better and more economical nowadays,
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

that when you buy a vehicle for towing a large recreational trailer, manufacturers recommend automatic (in my experience. Yours may differ)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
153. I learned how after my brother went to Vietnam and left his MG midget
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

in our garage and the keys. I drove it around the big oak trees in our huge front yard at our farm house. When he got back he said I could handle a stick shift better than he could. Still love to drive a manual transmission!

LOL Lib

(1,462 posts)
157. I would like to know what percentage know how to check fluids or change a tire?
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:43 PM
Mar 2017

If you operate a vehicle you should know HOW to do those basics. I totally understand if you are physically incapable of actually performing the job, but you can always tell someone HOW to do it properly. If you can't learn the HOW, then you are too incompetent to be on the road. Just my opinion.

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
158. Funny Stick Shift Story
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:54 PM
Mar 2017

Well funny to me. I drove the band truck and had a car in the early 80's that was manual trans so i have no problem with it, although i haven't had a car that was manual since about 1984.

I'm in Milano and i take a flight from Linate to Lyon France to visit a manufacturing site near Grenoble. I get there around 9 or 9:30 at night and go to the rental car counter. I show my passport and license and the young French woman says "Oh no, you're an american!" I said, "I sure am and have the passport to prove it!" She laughed and then got serious and told me "We don't have any cars with automatic transmission at this airport! Americans don't use the shifter, right?"

I told her that americans preference is for automatic, but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of us who can't drive a car with that.

She looked so relieved.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
159. I can drive one
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 03:59 PM
Mar 2017

I had fun shifting gears, but no fun when stuck in a traffic jam. I even had an suv with manual 4wd so I had 2 stick shifters and clutch pedals!

Quixote1818

(28,929 posts)
170. The biggest challenge is driving shift in England
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 06:14 PM
Mar 2017

driving on the wrong side of the road and shifting with my left hand

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