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The report from U.S. News and World Report show only 18 percent of U.S. drivers know how to operate a stick shift. It says that because of advancements in automatic transmissions and fuel economy, only about 5 percent of vehicles sold in the U.S. today come with a stick shift. Thats down from 25 percent of cars in 1987.
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yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Hasn't been a problem at all.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)She always swore she'd always drive a na manual. Then we moved to Palm Beach County Florida and she had a 30 minute drive to work...mostly side streets. That ended that.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)rufus dog
(8,419 posts)I didn't mind my manual when driving to work, but then having to go rush hour into LA it became a PAIN IN THE ASS!
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)Sitting in traffic is bad enough without having to play with the clutch the whole time.
Retrograde
(10,133 posts)I got my first non-manual car about 3 years ago, after having driven manuals since I started driving in 1974. We bought it because there weren't any manuals available in the make we wanted unless we wanted to wait several months - and pay more. Dealing with the clutch on relatively flat land is not a big deal. The first time I had to go through San Francisco and found I could stop for a light on the top of a hill and start again without requiring 3 feet and a hand brake I decided an automatic had its advantages.
I still keep reaching for the passenger's knee whenever I think I should be shifting, though.
brush
(53,769 posts)Those "Curb your wheels" signs are not joking.
MineralMan
(146,287 posts)has a hill holder feature. If you're on a hill, when you take your foot off the brake, the brake stays applied until the car begins to move in gear, then it releases. I haven't driven it in SF, but it works perfectly on every hill I've been on. I'm not sure, but I suspect the same feature is on a lot of new manual transmission vehicles.
Notably, it is a 6-speed. When I was a young guy, only racing cars had six-speed transmissions. I can assure you that a Kia Soul is not a racing car, but the 6-speed is fun.
The two top gears are overdrive gears, so they're useless unless you're going at least 45 MPH. And oddly, the top speed in that little car, which is approximately 113 MPH, can only be achieved in 4th gear at 7250 RPM, the car's red line. The two higher gears won't redline the engine. They're for maximum fuel economy only and cruising on the freeway.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)I've never owned an automatic except an ill considered minivan that I hated so badly that I ditched it in less than a year. Sadly I might have to go automatic due to old knees. 😩 I'm trying to decide whether an automatic Mini is just embarrassing.
GWC58
(2,678 posts)would be a royal pain driving a manual transmission. I sure wouldn't want to!
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)I did need to rent a car in SF once to get out to Tahoe, they asked if I could drive a shift! Sure no problem. The wife wanted to go down Lombard Street on our way out. No Problem going down, getting back to the freeway was a major pain! Once we got back from Tahoe the car was immediately turned in and back to public transportation and walking.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)cemaphonic
(4,138 posts)Steep hills + heavy traffic 24/7 makes driving manual intolerable. I know how, and have had to do it occasionally, but outside of a true emergency, I'd rather ride the bus.
nolabear
(41,959 posts)Sadly the knees are getting old but I'm resisting. That roll back prevention clutch is fabulous.
NBachers
(17,107 posts)CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)and I drove a stick shift the whole time. I got really got good at parallel parking my little VW/Honda SE on those steep hills!
It was hard on the clutch though! I think I went through 3 of them on a Toyota Corolla I had for awhile.
hunter
(38,311 posts)I could shift gears effortlessly, automatically, without thinking. I still can.
It was the utter waste of my life commuting that got to me. I resent every second I've ever spent sitting in a fucking car, especially the times I've been caught in heavy traffic..
Cars are among the most awful things humans have ever invented. They are right up there with nuclear weapons and just as deadly..
The "freedom" of automobile ownership is a sick illusion. Automobiles are tools of "Papers Please" fascism.
Hitler, Volkswagen and Autobahns... not a coincidence. Wear a license plate on your butt wherever you go.
When my wife and I met we were Los Angeles commuters on 15 mph freeways. My bicycle could be faster, but that was fraught with much greater danger to life and limb. And showing up at work stinking of fear-sweat wasn't a good idea. The piranhas of human-kind smell that.
Riding my bicycle I've been hit by cars and so has my wife. It impresses upon a bicycle rider the importance of helmets.
By some planning and greater good fortune my wife and I have avoided the automobile commuter lifestyle since the mid 'eighties.
I can walk to my office in my underwear, a cup of coffee in one hand. We can see my wife's workplace from the balcony of our house.
The U.S.A. could be a better place by building walkable urban areas with good public transportation. I have nephews and nieces living in San Francisco and Seattle. They don't own cars but sometimes they rent them. That should be the "normal" we strive for.
Jim Beard
(2,535 posts)time out of my life.
MurrayDelph
(5,293 posts)and caused me to trade in my Honda Accord for a Prius.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)Stop and go on the freeway is rough
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Especially, when I want a drink from my coffee cup
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)Not if you are an experienced manual driver. I've driven in pretty much any terrain or traffic. I much prefer manual.
metroins
(2,550 posts)stop and go is a hassle for a manual.
I prefer the clutch, it gives me control, but in traffic it is 3x the work.
hardluck
(638 posts)Did it for 15 years in LA traffic. Only time I regretted it was when a fire shut down the 118 and it took me 5 hours to get home in bumper to bumper traffic. That day sucked!
yagotme
(2,919 posts)but we're older, so I guess we learned "the old-timey way". My first vehicle was a stick, and currently have one that is.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,325 posts)... surprise he could drive a stick.
yagotme
(2,919 posts)When he learned, it was most likely the only game in town. My dad learned to drive with long leather straps and "Giddyup" and "Whoa".
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Boxerfan
(2,533 posts)Ok so yeah I'm old & yeah I drive a stick.
I would miss so much of the experience -especially in a good nimble well suited car on a windy road to nowhere-without shifting and clutching at the best of my abilities.
Maybe a little wiff of Kendal and a dash of British Racing green would make it perfect. But any good car- a Miata for example-is a joy to drive for recreation. My VW bus is not such a vehicle but the VW auto's are problematic at best.
I demand they bring back dial radio's & roll up windows. And VENT windows for criminies sake. Kids asked me what they were for-direct & free air ya dummies...
Grumble grumble grumble...
LisaM
(27,803 posts)I don't miss rolling the window up and down, but I do worry about emergencies if the power windows fail.
rufus dog
(8,419 posts)My dad always said that about power windows, 'what if we crash into a lake?' We lived in Phx, finally when I was about 15 I blurted out, we are in the middle of a damn desert.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Manual windows will have the same issues as power windows. Once the pressure is the same on both sides of the window, they will operate.
12 Volt systems will not "short out" in water. The water will eventually ruin the motors, but that will take some time, longer than one can hold their breath. If you go into the water in a car, get the windows down immediately, or break them.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Power windows are mostly standard.
WillowTree
(5,325 posts).......we haven't come up with a more currently-appropriate term. Not unlike "dialing the phone" or "hanging-up the phone".
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)still works to convey what you mean.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)They funneled the air right to you
LeftInTX
(25,258 posts)I warned him about parking my manual transmission car on a hill.
Guess what happened?
That was about 35 years ago. I haven't driven a manual in over 30 years. I have no idea if I would remember.
kstewart33
(6,551 posts)I drove manual for decades, beginning with a rickety old VW bug in high school. Loved it because I felt more in complete control of the car.
Nowadays, manual has gone missing. A shame. Manual driving would surely reduce the amount of texting while driving.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Though I don't really care what a person's preference is.
Positive side? My kids/mostly anybody else never ask to borrow my car.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)A HERETIC I AM
(24,366 posts)Read several stories of stolen cars where the thief gets a block and gives up
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Both my sister and I both learned on a stick before being allowed to drive an automatic.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Glad my Dad made me learn on a stick. Scared the shit out of Dad when I stalled it crossing a one way.
Put IT Gear!
LMFAO
central scrutinizer
(11,648 posts)There was a car jacking a few years ago where the perp jumped in the car but didn't know how to drive a stick, promptly stalled it and got busted.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I learned how to drive a manual when I lived in Europe. It was great fun!
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)any type of injury. Then it was hurting my knee to be pressing down on the clutch. Not good if you're over 50.
malaise
(268,949 posts)so I can still drive a stick shift.
no_hypocrisy
(46,083 posts)stick shift?
we can do it
(12,184 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)One time I had the misfortune of needing to drive an old truck that my father-in-law owned that had the shift "on the tree". I broke it. He wasn't happy with me. I think it was sort of his fault because he told me it was just like driving my four on the floor. It wasn't.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)My newest car does have a 6sd twin disc paddle shift automatic but that was the only option.
RedWedge
(618 posts)benld74
(9,904 posts)Drove that for awhile.
Helped me get Illinois Power summer jobs during my first 2 years college. Had to drive these HUGE crew trucks, manual all the way!
Later showed early gfriend how to properly shift her MG. She thought I was killing her baby,,,we never lasted, neither did that car
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)I prefer on the floor 😀
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Steep penalty for losing control. I love manual.
Had to do it in the rain, as well. Learned to get tires out of mud with tree limbs and gravel.
Mind you, I have neither been up nor down that mountain since.
samplegirl
(11,476 posts)In a Honda prelude! Good thing I learned or I couldn't drive my sports car.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Well, it feels like total control anyway.
randome
(34,845 posts)I can drive a manual. But why would anyone in the 21st century want to?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)to hardcore car people. Automatic transmissions provide all types of advantages, especially if one has to change a flat tire.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Tried to teach my daughter and she refused to attempt it. My argument was you never know when you have to make a quick get a way from zombies and a stick is the only thing there.
JHan
(10,173 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Kidnapped in the backwoods by Melvin and his cousin/brother. The only vehicle is a stick and you slipped the ropes loose while they were wrasslin'.
Driving a stick is a valuable skill. You never know when it will come in handy
JHan
(10,173 posts)sarah FAILIN
(2,857 posts)Lol.
It makes our kids furious too.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)ButSeeYa
(273 posts)I felt I had more control of the car, especially while driving in snow/ice. Then, I had my daughter. It was hard to console a crying infant while reaching back to stroke her head or hold her tiny hand, while simultaneously driving a stick shift.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I swapped out my auto tranny for a manual one. Took a couple days, but well worth it.
still_one
(92,152 posts)dhol82
(9,352 posts)Still remember my first calculator.
Such a joke. It was from Radio Shack, cost $125 and did almost nothing.
still_one
(92,152 posts)reflection
(6,286 posts)Still works great. Dropped it more times than I can remember, burned through scores of batteries, it just keeps chugging. A lovely piece of kit.
still_one
(92,152 posts)memories
House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)with a pencil and paper, and with a trig table, I can solve CNC machining toolpaths on paper too. it is nicer to use CAD/CAM, but I could get along without it, if I had to.
still_one
(92,152 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)when I was around.
oldcynic
(385 posts)I remember doing rapid things with the pedals to rock my beloved 1959 Willys pickup out of mud. And very rapid things with the pedals to keep from stalling on steep hills in a 1940s VW bug. And I still worry about opening the windows in the lake.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)LOVE IT!
Have had several sticks over the years. Got an automatic once and then went back to the stick.
Won't drive it in the city though. Pain in the ass in heavy traffic.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)Remington
(6 posts)Less likely to get carjacked if you drive a manual.
jpak
(41,757 posts)Four on the floor
I can drive them all
Like a son of a....
sinkingfeeling
(51,445 posts)House of Roberts
(5,168 posts)I have an automatic in a 1983 El Camino. Everything else is 5 speeds, including my 1994 Ford Ranger. I can baby a manual longer when it needs work, than I can an automatic, and the repairs I can do in house.
dflprincess
(28,075 posts)I've owned nothing but manuals and I'm not comfortable driving an automatic. But, my current manual may be my last one. I think as a concession to age the next car may be automatic...maybe not. I'm keeping the current Civic for as along as I can, then I'll decide.
NotThisTime
(3,657 posts)Sucks!!!
Leith
(7,809 posts)In high school, the driver's ed teacher said that they stopped teaching stick because soon everything would be automatic. So much for his predictive powers.
Now, I like to say that I paid enough for the car and it can shift its own dang gears.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)cuz he couldn't use a stick! That makes me feel safer that my 5 speed won't get stolen anytime soon. It's nervewracking to hand over the keys these days though, you know they're faking it at the valet sometimes.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)Had a few of these thru the years.
Edit: my kid just bought a 7 speed manual Vette with a paddle shift on the steering wheel,its pretty cool.
egduj
(805 posts)But it's the 21st century so I don't have to. If I want a rocking chair I can just go to the store and buy one.
Panich52
(5,829 posts)My first driving experience was Dad letting me try his 59 Ford wagon w/ T-bird engine. First new car I bought was manual 82 Charger (should have waited year f/ 4th gear they added).
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)After I learned to drive a stick shift on a VW, I got one for myself eventually. I had a real cool one too, a 1968 with a sunroof on it. I watched it roll over to 100,000 miles on it after crossing Donner Pass in the High Sierras.
Those were good times in America when it was still a free country and now it seems to have gone *poof* IMO.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I had forgotten all about that bug. It was my first husband's and it was in pretty bad shape, but it was fun to drive. My current husband used to enjoy working on Rabbit engines and owned quite a few Rabbits. I loved those cars. I kinda wish we had kept at least one of them around, but at the time he was somewhat of a Rabbit hoarder. He had 23 and finally decided it was no longer for him and sold them, one by one. He actually still does have a VW Pickup. Hasn't touched it in about a decade. I've tried to talk him into selling it because he's never ever going to work on it and someone would no doubt enjoy it.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)However, I had a VW Westfalia camper for awhile. That was the one with the pop-top on it. It was great fun and I wish I still had it!
The last stick shift I had was a Honda Civic SE.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I bet that was a blast!
My general opinion is if you're not going to use it, get rid of it. Let someone else enjoy it. My husband is a collector and I'm a minimalist. It has been a constant battle. I told him if I ever woke up one morning and he, um, didn't, I would call for one of those big roll-off dumpsters before I even bothered to call the coroner. He thinks I'm joking.
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Went to pick it up and the guy said, 'Do you know how to drive a stick?'
I said, 'no,' and he gave me an overview. Drove it home and have loved a stick ever since.
Remember driving it cross country and trying to have a race with a VW camper going up a mountain in Wyoming. We were chugging at full speed - around 20 mph.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)It could barely go over Mosquito Lake in the High Sierras where the altitude was over 8,000 ft. Little oxygen in the air and S L OW I went like it or not.
I never wanted to sell this car! Finally my late father convinced me to do it and I ended up with a Toyota Corolla, a car I never really liked that much after having that bug!
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Wanted to keep it forever but I moved to NYC and it became too much of a hassle to move it every day.
Still miss my baby.
Panich52
(5,829 posts)lack of left leg. W/ prosthetic I can still drive stick, but can't risk problems may occur w/ pros & leave me w/o transportation.
CountAllVotes
(20,868 posts)I realized I was not lifting my left foot off of the clutch because I could not.
After that I had to get an automatic car which I still have today.
If I could I still would though!
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)kind. I have an automatic and have for years and it's just so nice and easy but we had an absolute killer winter with tons of black ice and I had to use our 4 wheel drive manual old Nissan Pathfinder a lot. Was very glad I knew how or I would have been pretty much stuck. We will teach our grandkids how to drive it as well. Never know when they might need to drive a manual. Just another handy thing to know and who knows, they may end up working for one of the ranchers around here summers and most of the big farm trucks are still manual.
JesterCS
(1,827 posts)I'm 35 though.... lol
riderinthestorm
(23,272 posts)Includes my daughters and staff (8 of us total atm).
The old 3020 JD tractor that pulls the manure spreader is also a manual and yup, we all know how to drive that too.
Have had several stick shift cars including a new VW Beetle but freely admit they're a pain to drive in traffic and at this point, I doubt I'd buy a stick unless I won the lottery and could indulge in one of the beautiful old British sports cars.
TlalocW
(15,381 posts)And you would think that growing up in a small farming community, it would be part of driver's ed, but nope. Depending on the day, we drove either a normal sedan or a Chevy Suburban to get used to driving bigger vehicles you would find in such a place. Stick would have made sense though.
My brother, when he bought his first post-high school car in the mid-90s either wanted to save money or thought driving stick would make him look more macho, and bought him a manual transmission car. Then had to call a friend to come to the dealer to teach him how to drive it.
I imagine it's helpful if driving in other countries. I remember visiting Mexico and taking a bus from Mexico City to Puebla to visit a friend. She and her boyfriend picked me up at the station. He had a broken right arm, so he drove the car, and she worked the gear shift, and they did it perfectly together.
TlalocW
ALBliberal
(2,339 posts)Three kids can drive it. Teaching the kids was very hard and yet so very rewarding. I hope to own a stick shift as long as they make them. Once they learned how to stop and start on a hill... They got it!
zeusdogmom
(990 posts)It is a little Mazda3. Zoom! Zoom! So much fun to drive - even in bad city traffic. My daughters learned to drive manual transmission - cranky old boat of a Volvo. It became a badge of honor - there were very few kids in high school who could drive anything the came their way. My girls could.
Cadfael
(1,296 posts)We never had to carry jumper cables in our 73 VW bus that had an intermittent electrical fault. Just give it a nudge and pop the clutch.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I took my kids on a trip in my VW Rabbit quite a few years ago. It developed some sort of problem and wouldn't start a few times. The kids came in handy when I needed a push. Those Rabbits were so small you could practically push them fast enough by yoursef to pop the clutch. And sometimes I did.
Cadfael
(1,296 posts)Open the door, push on the door frame, hop in and pop the clutch. It helps if there's any kind of downward slope to work with....
I taught my eldest to drive in that Hyundai. The little snot was very dismissive when I was explaining the theory behind the actions. He got behind the wheel and got this shocked look on his face when the car did that "shudder - shudder - cough- die" thing a manual transmission does if you don't know what you're doing. He'd spent his whole life riding in my stick shift cars with me and figured if his old mom could do it, there must be nothing to it! Ah, the hubris of callow youth.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)They're kind of proud that they know how now..
Cadfael
(1,296 posts)5 speed with a manual choke (if you can believe that, lol). I had no idea how to drive it, drivers ed was in an automatic. Fortunately both my parents learned pre-automatic transmission, and taught me....my folks were born in the twenties and had me rather late in life. My mom actually learned on a model T! UNfortunately, no one explained the narrow gate between first and third gears, so I spent my first few months (& one clutch) starting in third gear. It was especially exciting at lights on steep upward hills.
nocalflea
(1,387 posts)of superiority in my ability to drive a manual transmission ?
This thread proves I'm not alone.
And I usually deplore smugness. But now , I'm happily swimming it.
Great thread .Great memories.
Warpy
(111,247 posts)Automatic transmissions are pigs in snow and we get snow here in NM. Stick shift is much easier to cope with.
we can do it
(12,184 posts)pnwmom
(108,977 posts)with the all-wheel drive, even with the automatic.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I think of it as a truck with enhanced theft prevention.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)we have more of a problem with rain, and all wheel is also good in that.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)Know how to roll-start/jump start.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)hardluck
(638 posts)Had the M21 in my 70 Camaro. 4 speed hurst shifter. Learned to drive stick on that.
My favorite stick was aisen 6 speed in my Honda S2000. So smooth. Loved shifting at 9000 rpm.
Freethinker65
(10,010 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)but having old cars pretty soon your doing it like forever. Three on the tree gives me a go. New auto transmissions come in a variety of speeds and gears, some now are 10 speeds, most people wouldn't know how to shift that many. Many today have a manual feature and paddle shifter to help you shift manually....only practical in some conditions.
kysrsoze
(6,019 posts)I learned to drive with a manual transmission and recently had an Infiniti G with a manual. That was a blast to drive, even though the clutch was way too heavy. But living in Chicago and having to do that all the time in traffic, particularly in winter, was enough. Now I'm in L.A., and it would be insane to drive a manual here too.
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)My previous car - a much-missed Mazda Protege 5 - had an automatic with full manual override, i.e. clutchless manual shifting if you wanted it. That was nice and useful. But I can still drive a stick if I need to. It's like swimming, don't do it often but it's a useful survival skill.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)I just think it's too much work
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Go Vols
(5,902 posts)commercials on my TV daily advertising 2017 manual shift cars.
Laffy Kat
(16,377 posts)Those of us just wanting to get from point A to point B prefer automatics. I remember telling someone that I didn't understand why they manufacture manuals anymore since they know how to make automatics. He looked at me like I was an absolute cretin.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I could probably drive one again after killing it a few times. I have an automatic now though because I had bad knees that never could have handled all of that shifting. I like automatics better anyway and by the time I got my last car automatics and manuals pretty much did not differ on savings with gas.
Bayard
(22,061 posts)I didn't learn to drive one until I bought my old '51 Ford 8N Tractor. Loved that thing, and miss it way more than I miss my ex. I can drive a stick shift car, I just choose not to.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)in the late 60's. My first car was a 4 speed Datsun (pre-Nissan) 510. And I drove nothing but manual transmission cars for years
until about 2004 when I switched to automatic only because I couldn't find the car I wanted--in the color I wanted (red)-- in a manual
transmission. When I traded that car in 2009, same thing, so still driving automatic.
My older brother never did learn how to drive a manual transmission.
My husband currently drives a manual transmission on his 13 year old Miata.
I taught my oldest son (30) to drive a manual transmission and he now drives autocross for fun here in NC in his Honda S2000. He still
has his first car-- now 14 year old Altima-- with a manual transmission that he drove with his partner cross country last May. His partner
had to learn how to drive manual transmission so they could take turns with the driving on that long road trip.
hardluck
(638 posts)Still regret selling my 2003 Silverstone.
mnhtnbb
(31,384 posts)I suspect he'll have it for a long time.
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)She loves it!
She's been teaching her friends to drive her manual
Unfortunately, the car I wanted was sought after enough (and no longer made) that my current car is not a manual, since I had to choose from the few that were available. So she's the only one currently driving a manual.
colsohlibgal
(5,275 posts)I learned under duress at 18. I was working in the office of a photo developing company in downtown Columbus. One day both people who ran some errands using the company van were gone so I got tagged to do it. I told my Boss I had never driven a stick and our van had one. He was a jerk so he got out an index card, quickly marked down the gears so off I went.
I stalled it about 15 times but got better as I went and just by circumstance I have been driving a mamual the last 8-9 years....once you learn it is easy.
My sister actually prefers them.
wryter2000
(46,037 posts)I've driven both, but I love my manual shift Chevy Spark.
xor
(1,204 posts)Short of the "fun" aspect that some people claim, is there any benefit to manual transmissions?
tenderfoot
(8,426 posts)All of my cars have been sticks!
VOX
(22,976 posts)There's no floor clutch, obviously, but you can still control the actual shifting of gears manually if you're feeling sporty. Or go to full automatic if you just want to relax (insofar as possible while driving).
The zippy car was a retirement gift to myself. The way I keep up my cars and baby them, this may be my last set of wheels!
3catwoman3
(23,973 posts)...having to stop for a red light on a hill. Very scary, expecially if some jerk behind you has to pull right up on your bumper and not leave you any room to roll backwards a bit.
I always wished for a third leg and foot so I could have one on the gas, one on the clutch, and one on the brake.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)By the time she is old enough, I suspect vehicles will be self-driving.
chillfactor
(7,574 posts)and it was time fo me to start driver's training, I signed up for automatic transmission. My father made me go back and change it to manual transmission. I have never ever been sorry...I can drive any vehicle with a manual or automatic transmission. I always drove vehicles with manual transmissions until I got older and arthritis settled in my knees and made it difficult for me to drive. But, if I had to I could still drive a manual transmission.
arthritisR_US
(7,287 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)...ceased being the standard for cars.
My ex-husband was convinced that the only way for me to learn to drive was on a stick shift, and it was a miserable exercise. At 30 I found a driving school, and when I timidly explained to my instructor that I had to learn on a manual transmission he scoffed and said nobody did that. I learned to drive much more easily after that.
The next big thing apparently is going to be driverless cars, at which point all that will be moot.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)With Seattle's hills, the manuals weren't always fun to drive.
The only thing I've regretted is not being able to teach our kids.
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)1because the market is smaller u may get more car for the buck
2manual trans hold up better and may not be total death sentence for the car if it goes
nolabels
(13,133 posts)They seem to me even harder to drive because the clutch is more your friend when you are moving one of those things around. Yea, the big thing, fuel economy goes way up when the powertrain has its own independent monkeys running the show
LWolf
(46,179 posts)It's not as great in town, of course, but still not bad. I drive a lot of roads with light traffic; I can get to work, 13 miles away, with no stoplights and 3 stop signs. People with automatic transmissions irritate the hell out of me; they're always riding their brakes, and when I see the brake lights flashing, I think there's a reason to brake when there's not. I don't have to use my brakes to slow down. That's probably why they last so long. My current ride is 13 years old and has about 120K, and still doing great with the original brakes (and clutch).
My grandson is old enough for a permit; he's going to learn with a manual transmission before he ever gets to drive an automatic.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)shockey80
(4,379 posts)It was during the cuban boat lift. We got orders to go to Fort McCoy Wis. The first night there they woke me early to go sign out a vehicle. It was a jeep. Never drove a stick before. I had to learn on my own how to drive it.. It was so funny. The stick in a army jeep is tough to learn. It's not like a car. It's tricky. I stalled that jeep so many times i lost count. People were laughing at me.
Finally a army buddy told me, Start out in 2nd gear and he showed me how to get into 3rd gear which is very tricky at first. By the 2nd day i had it under control.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,174 posts)In the end, I ultimately burnt out the clutch on my parent's car and from that point on, I just stuck to automatic.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)and taught my son how. Loved that you could always start a "dead" car by popping the clutch. Sure wouldn't want to drive in San Francisco, though. Yikes!
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Had to settle for an automatic. I will not make that mistake again. It doesn't matter so much with boring, run-of-the-mill cars, but with sports cars, it had better be a manual or no deal.
The MX-5 Miata should be driven manually, otherwise it's a complete waste of time.
In any case most cars in Europe are manual, so good luck, Americans, when you go rent a car, if you don't know how.
cbdo2007
(9,213 posts)Yet 150 years ago everyone knew how to ride a horse. Weird.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)or at least part of this strange equation in my neck of the suburbia. Costs thousands of dollars and untold hours in personal time for care of the animal and the only thing a human gets out it rides here and there. The horse has little to say in the agreement to the companionship it but sure seems like an inequitable trade for the human
ellie
(6,929 posts)a stick with my father screaming at me from the passenger seat of a 1974 AMC Gremlin. Good times.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)marybourg
(12,620 posts)that when you buy a vehicle for towing a large recreational trailer, manufacturers recommend automatic (in my experience. Yours may differ)
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)in our garage and the keys. I drove it around the big oak trees in our huge front yard at our farm house. When he got back he said I could handle a stick shift better than he could. Still love to drive a manual transmission!
LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)If you operate a vehicle you should know HOW to do those basics. I totally understand if you are physically incapable of actually performing the job, but you can always tell someone HOW to do it properly. If you can't learn the HOW, then you are too incompetent to be on the road. Just my opinion.
ProfessorGAC
(65,000 posts)Well funny to me. I drove the band truck and had a car in the early 80's that was manual trans so i have no problem with it, although i haven't had a car that was manual since about 1984.
I'm in Milano and i take a flight from Linate to Lyon France to visit a manufacturing site near Grenoble. I get there around 9 or 9:30 at night and go to the rental car counter. I show my passport and license and the young French woman says "Oh no, you're an american!" I said, "I sure am and have the passport to prove it!" She laughed and then got serious and told me "We don't have any cars with automatic transmission at this airport! Americans don't use the shifter, right?"
I told her that americans preference is for automatic, but that doesn't mean there aren't a lot of us who can't drive a car with that.
She looked so relieved.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)I had fun shifting gears, but no fun when stuck in a traffic jam. I even had an suv with manual 4wd so I had 2 stick shifters and clutch pedals!
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)Lots of farm equipment are manual.
spanone
(135,827 posts)still have our 98 Jeep Wrangler.....5 speed
Quixote1818
(28,929 posts)driving on the wrong side of the road and shifting with my left hand