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Nictuku

(3,587 posts)
1. I have always wanted to know what they said
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:40 AM
Mar 2017

I have always wanted to know what they said, ever since I was a child.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
2. Is a failed attempt to compare to cursive? Because cursive engages a part of the brain
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

that is different than printing.

It's also easier for kids to learn and in some countries it's taught before printing.

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Coventina

(27,064 posts)
3. That's not true, actually. There are hundreds of academics who can read ancient Egyptian writings
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

as easily as their native language.

Going back further than that, many also are able to read Cuneiform.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
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Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mar 2017


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samnsara

(17,606 posts)
5. my wedding ring is an....
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:43 AM
Mar 2017

..ancient lapis scarab with Hieroglyphics. I had my anthro prof research and interpret it. Means 'Long Life'..as far as he could tell.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
6. it's shame that in a world of cars, people still walk.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:46 AM
Mar 2017

It's fun to pretend relevance where none exists... whether its hieroglyphics or just another in a line of self-serving false equivalencies.

Much like, "it's shame that in a world of cars, people still walk."

And yet, it's important the petulant instruct us on what to discard.

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
7. When I was in Cairo I had a papyrus made up
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 10:46 AM
Mar 2017

with the names of my family. It was all written in hieroglyphics that corresponded to the English sounds.

TheBlackAdder

(28,169 posts)
14. Actually, Middle Egyptian Hieroglyphs is the one most commonly studied.
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:11 AM
Mar 2017

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It's not really referred to as Hieroglyphics, just Hieroglyphs.

I'm taking a college linguistics course in it right now.



The Great Courses has a set that's pretty good, and easy to get going. I have it.

It doesn't delve into all of the complexities and nuances of a linguistics college course, but it's nice.

http://www.thegreatcourses.com/courses/decoding-the-secrets-of-egyptian-hieroglyphs.html


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matt819

(10,749 posts)
15. And farriering?
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 11:24 AM
Mar 2017

Why don't we all know how to put shoes on horses?

And what's with this having to go to mechanics to repair a car's engine? We've become soft.

And whittling? No one whittles anymore. When was the last time you met a whittler?

And ham radios? This was big in the 60s - my uncle was a ham radio guy. And why don't we assemble radios from kits anymore?

And why don't barbers do surgery, like they did 5 centuries ago?

Yeah, it's unfortunate that we don't do a lot of things. Morse code, crafting flint arrowheads, and reading hieroglyphics aren't some of them. How about this? Why don't Americans learn Russian? Or Chinese? Or Arabic? Why don't Americans know how to locate Iraq on a world map? Etc.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
17. Why be offended when people say this?
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 01:41 PM
Mar 2017

I mean, really. If you need to think that nostalgia is a personal affront ... Or that the One True Way to progress is to hate the past ... meh.

It's a shame people don't grow their own food. It's a shame that people can't read cuneiform.

One's a bit more useful than the other, if you ask me. Then again, it's a shame people don't read older literature and it's a shame people don't study Latin. Again, those are useful, but not for making widgets or getting laid (for the most part). And if the only things that matter are money and sex, then that's a possible values set. Reductionist and self-parodying, but still possible. Used to be considered "shallow," but that's a judgment from at least equally valid a values set.

On the other hand, growing food makes food deserts largely a thing of the past, and it's something I can do for my family without compelling other people to just "make it so." It's a way of solving a problem using personal initiative instead of compulsion on some external enemy. Tres passe, n'est pas?

Older literature still provides the source of a lot of allusions and keeps a lot of idiom chunks from straying. They provide a common cultural fund for communication and expression, and that's something that's lost--with a lot of the electioneering in the last few cycles showing exactly how "if it's more than 25 minutes old or something that serves to identify me as emphatically not you, it's irrelevant." I know students that are like that. Poor things. My classes are going to provide at least 20 of the next #1 rappers and 15 NFL starters in just the next two years, and that's just my classes. (I calculate we'll need at least 24 000 NFL expansion franchises in the next 8 years, if all those kids are right when it comes to what's "irrelevant". Just think of all the stadiums that'll be built! Stimulus!)

One reason a lot of kids have trouble with vocabulary, apart from disconnected or uneducated parents and the view that pop culture somebody else makes and you download is the best way to express your culture and be creative, is that they don't know words. Vocabulary is often Latin(ate).

By the way, I have a friend, Kasia, who can read hieroglyphs. In her case it's a job skill, she's an Egyptologist.

Take the long view. Things are often fads.

One thing I do miss from the 1800s and early 1900s was the idea that most music and art had to be personal. Either you had to interact with the person or you had to produce it. It meant we didn't have a cult of perfection like we do now, where if you sing a note out of tune or make a mistake you're shit. The amount of intermediate music that was published is astounding because a lot of people could read music or learn from print. The small orchestras and groups that formed were civic glue, whether plucked strings or bowed, vocal or visual performance. Much of what kids consume they could make--it's crap, just glossy crap, but somehow polished turds are more valued than what they can actually do. Sad, the passivization of youth in a consumer society; instead, they focus on how they can bully others.

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