Trumps budget ends Meals on Wheels. I can't believe it.

[shockey80]

I have delivered meals on wheels. The people who rely on this would starve without it. I hate trump and the evil people that work for him. If trump died tomorrow i would celebrate. I have never said this about any president. This is pure evil.

Trump and his people are not americans in my book.. They are evil,greedy, insane people.

Trumps budget simply is, States you are on your own. Poor people you are on your own. You will no longer get help from the federal govt.

My anger has now turned into rage. I will be writing my senators. I am going to demand they start calling for trumps resignation. This bullshit has to end.

[gibraltar72]

1. I can

[LakeVermilion]

2. The hypocrisy is endless...

but who am I to judge. The wealthy only use money to keep score.

[hollowdweller]

81. Trump is actually waging war on the people who put him in office.

[jehop61]

3. Used to deliver mow

in rural North Carolina. The poverty was horrendous and those good folks really needed that meal. We can't let them do this.

[monmouth4]

18. Not only is the meal of vital importance but the seeing, talking to and being with another

human being, even for a short time, is the only contact many of these folks have during the day..

[RKP5637]

4. Trump, is one of the most evil politicians and republicans kiss his ass! Ryan's on MSNBC now

kissing his ass so deeply about their great health care plan!!!

[wishstar]

5. Yes, I called my Reps about ACA repeal and will call them back again about this cut

[66 dmhlt]

124. Be sure to ask about the 500,000 Veterans who use it ...

Link to tweet

[beachbum bob]

6. hertigage foundation game plan to the "T"....and why we have consequences with outcome

of elections. This is the start of dismantling govt...and we have little to do about it until 2018


not settling for the "lesser of 2 evils"...gave america real evil...a lesson every 3rd party voter and non-voter better understand and correct for the next time

[Initech]

12. We really need to tell the Heritage Foundation to STFU.

They're one of the real evils in the world and the sooner they go away the better.

[beachbum bob]

20. they are not ever going away...we need liberal version of koch brothers willing to spend BILLIONS

to when state and local elections as thats how conservatives got control...gerrymandered the elections....democrats, liberals, and progressives have to get off their asses as 2018 may be the one and only time we can stop the destruction of america as we know it

[Initech]

24. We need to tell the AM hate radio sphere and conspiracy theory sphere to STFU as well.

Next year we'll see guys who we've never heard of come out of the woodwork who will make Alex Jones look tame by comparison, the GOP will be unleashing their big guns to keep their precious majority. We need to do what they did and start running candidates at every single level. Too many times the GOP wins elections because they don't have any competition. We need to start running competition and finding candidates who will work to advance the progressive agenda. When conservatives win, we all lose. We need to hammer that point home.

[Crash2Parties]

116. They've also got churches to funnel minds, votes and $$$ to the GOP

Roughly half of America are members of conservative Churches, according to Pew, & they've been overtly threatening the souls of their congregations for 8 or 9 years now.

[logosoco]

7. Basically it seems like "they" want to cut all the things

that really make America a great place so they can fund the military and build that wall. But there will be nothing much to protect and no one will want to come here anyway.

[sarah FAILIN]

13. You can't eat a wall

These bastards that voted him in are going to starve their own grannies.

[Initech]

27. But it was Obama that was going to kill their grandmas!

[eyeofnewt]

84. Exactly

what I was thinking! Now, not only is she alive, she needs to sharpen her culinary skills- Meals on Wheels won't be there. So what if she's 97? Ever hear of bootstraps?

[Initech]

85. Why does it remind me of this scene from the Simpsons?

NEA? You're cut. EPA? You're cut. Department of education? You're cut. CIA? You're cut. FBI? You're cut! Military you stay. Department of interior? You're cut. State department? You're cut. OK, there's so many cuts here I'm just going to post your names and post them on the board. If your name is on it, you're cut. You too, shooshy!

[lpbk2713]

8. That is part of the GOP Grand Plan.

They want to kill off anyone they consider a "burden".
And anyone else they think might vote Dem.

[hamsterjill]

32. Yep. I think that's it.

I also think that they have some insiders on social media who are beginning to try to "normalize" this, too.

I was attacked on Facebook yesterday two times for posting something about having lived through the 60's (which obviously gives my general age bracket). The attacks were of the mindset that "your generation had their chance and has screwed us over" type of mentality.

We cannot allow Trump and his supporters to drive a wedge through the generations of people. Democrats are Democrats regardless of age. Younger Democrats are complete fools if they believe that they, themselves, won't be older one day. Older Democrats didn't ask for time to pass. Everyone has something to contribute.

We have to stand up for the less fortunate, the infirm, the elderly, etc.

[bdamomma]

113. That seems to be their plan

Democratic voters they are trying to get rid of. This has got to stop. It will get to a point where a conflict or confrontation will take place in the country...sigh

[dalton99a]

9. Starving and killing the helpless.

[RKP5637]

10. Trump's plan is to kill off old and poor people. FFS, the writing is on the wall. The elimination of

meals on wheels proves it. Incredible!!! The ass needs to be impeached!!!

[MineralMan]

11. You should believe it.

Those who receive Meals on Wheels are not an effective bloc of voters, for the most part. Trump doesn't care about them, and believes they have no power, so why feed them?

The far-right has no merciful intentions. It would be happy to see those people die quickly. The right would not shed a single tear.

This is the evil Trump represents and the evil group that is working the strings to control him. We need to cut those strings and watch Trump collapse into a heap behind his Bullshit Pulpit.

[FakeNoose]

71. These are people who voted for Trump ... or at least for the GOP

The GOP is screwing them at every turn.

The word has to be gotten out to the midwestern and southern states. (all the red states)
"Look at what this guy is doing to you!"

Make them screaming angry so they'll finally see it.

[TNLib]

83. yep my I know a couple on mean on wheels

Guess who they voted for?

[bdamomma]

114. the 2nd amendment

is still out there, and they have the arms...............

[Yavin4]

14. This is what happens when people vote their racial identity instead of

what's in their best economic interests. People would rather starve to death than to see another race get ANYTHING.

[erinlough]

15. I suggest making this about all Republicans when you call your representatives.

The one thing they understand is that if they stand to lose in the next election their support for these evil proposals might be shaken. Trump is a boob allowing the heritage foundation to put through their proposals.

[anarch]

16. it's kinda like the Bannons of the world have said, "we can eventually kill more people by neglect..

than the Nazis killed by more direct means. Let's try!"

given enough time in power, and enough cuts to social welfare and public safety measures, they could probably do it, too.

[smirkymonkey]

45. It's basically a eugenics program.

Cull the herd - get rid of all the undesirables so we can at last have our master race of rich, christian, white people.

[B2G]

17. More details from CNN:

(CNN) — The preliminary outline for President Donald Trump's 2018 budget could slash some funding for a program that provides meals for older, impoverished Americans.

The budget blueprint suggests cutting funds for the Department of Housing and Urban Development by about $6.2 billion, a 13.2% decrease from its 2017 funding level.

Almost half of those savings will come by eliminating the $3 billion Community Development Block Grant, which provides money for a variety of community development and anti-poverty programs, including Meals on Wheels.

How much it would affect the organization is unknown, but Meals on Wheels says 84% of its money comes from individual contributions and grants from corporations and foundations. About 3% comes from government grants, it says.


http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/16/politics/meals-on-wheels-trump-budget-blueprint/

[Kimchijeon]

19. I can believe it

They are needlessly cruel and evil.

[Brother Buzz]

21. Nothing Shocks Me Anymore

[ailsagirl]

69. I know what you mean but we can't become immune to these outrages

I don't want them to be "the new normal"

[bdamomma]

115. The New Normal???

neglecting people and seeing them die???? this cruel heartless regime needs to go...or millions of people will die. Fuck their MASTER RACE!!

[shockey80]

22. B2G

I hope thats true about the funding for meals on wheels ,that most funding doesn't come from the federal govt. The bottom line is trumps budget makes massive cuts to government agencies and programs that help the the poor. They want the states to take care of the poor. The problem is states can not afford it.

Hopefully trumps budget will fail like everything else he has tried.

[notdarkyet]

62. He hates us and every time he gets shot down by the media or courts he turns around and cuts

Some program that hurts, children, the elderly and the poor. He is a vindictive and mean person that has tantrums when he doesn't get his way. I am trying to be a non consumer.they depend on us to spend and work so they can take the tax money and give it to the wealthy. We will survive without their handouts, hopefully by helping each other. The big problem is I read that churches and social networks could not keep up with the need during the depression. You can find old pictures of soup lines, and there were many what are called food riots. After about two years is when the government came up with food programs to help feed the poor. Fu rump.

[oasis]

23. Waiting to hear from Pat Robertson and Family Research Council's Tony

Perkins and other members of the faith community who praise Trump.

What's Trump cheerleader, Franklin Graham got to say?

[milestogo]

25. We should take away his meals.

[smirkymonkey]

46. It's not like he'd starve to death any time soon.

There is enough fat on his old carcass to keep him going for years.

[Blue_Tires]

26. Any working-class Trump voters in the rust belt care to defend this madness?

At least the Bernie-or-Bust, "Burn-The-Whole-Thing-Down" Dems are celebrating today...

[former9thward]

108. Still fighting the primaries.

You never quit.

[AJT]

28. I don't think 45 cares one way or another about

most of what's in his budget, he didn't write it or read it. The budget is a litany of Republican wet dream policies, it's the GOP and we can't forget that. 45 is the vessel that the GOP are using since they know they would never be able to do all of this if there were a "mainstream" republican in office. This budget is who republicans really are, without the facade of decency.

[3catwoman3]

35. He does not...

...give a rat's ass about anyone but himself.

[yuiyoshida]

39. THIS!!!

^ this right here!!!

[gratuitous]

29. A Facebook acquaintance is pretty cheerful about it

He says us liberals shouldn't worry overmuch about things like eliminating funds for Meals on Wheels because it "probably" won't actually happen. (This chap is the relative of a friend, and seems to have cornered the family market on cruelty.) I responded directly to him that his party's position was immoral and in response to another friend in the thread observed that the budget proposes a $54 billion increase in the defense budget while literally starving vulnerable citizens by eliminating Meals on Wheels. I rounded off with my opinion that one couldn't possibly claim to follow Christ while endorsing this Republican budget.

I expect he'll have something pithy to say to that. I just hope I don't piss off my friend, though I'm pretty sure if I was doing something wrong by engaging with his heartlessness, she would tell me privately to lay off.

[blue sky at night]

106. I want to recommend something...

get the F U C K Away from that awful bucket of hate...I did last summer and haven't looked back. I would rather not know how fucked up these people are then try to argue with them, nothing, nothing, nothing is E V E R going to change their minds!

[gratuitous]

110. I leave him and his idiocy alone for the most part

But I push back from time to time. He's from an old family in the denomination I belong to (the denomination is fairly young and his family goes back several generations to some of the earliest days), so when I feel like responding, I couch my responses in biblical terms, citing scripture and stuff like that. I imagine him having to count to 10 (or 1,000) to calm himself before replying.

[hatrack]

30. Ah, yes, the "Pro-life" party in action . . .

Not surprising in the least - this is what they do.

They fuck people. They hurt people. They like to hurt people who can't fight back. That's who they are.

[liquid diamond]

31. Well at least

those poor elderly folks don't have to worry about Hillary's emails. Right Bernie or busters? Trump and Hillary are no different. Right? You fucking assholes.

[former9thward]

109. Still fighting the primaries.

Its 2017, move on.

[liquid diamond]

122. No. I'm focusing on the horror that is taking place TODAY.

Oh yeah, my post is back.

[former9thward]

123. Since I never alert I assume your comments are for someone else.

[blue sky at night]

33. What is there to "not believe"...

when we all start realizing that D E A T H is what they want for all of those in need. They want them dead! That is no longer alive, you don't need any help then. Wonder where they will stack the bodies?

[NewJeffCT]

34. This is part of the plan

meals on wheels and heating assistance (also being cut, I think) primarily benefit those in the inner city who won't be voting Trump/Republican. So, if they die off, that's fewer votes for the Democrats.

[Cryptoad]

36. Poor Folks have no rights!

Every Ahole that voted for Trump must share in the guilt of his Evil.

[yuiyoshida]

37. fuck yeah...

we gotta fight this shit, or there will be nothing left, but a bunch of RICH senators and congressmen who have pocked most of the money in the Treasury like a bunch of criminals. They will find a way to enrich themselves, and fuck everyone else.. bastards

[Bonx]

38. Snopes says "MOSTLY FALSE"

http://www.snopes.com/trump-meals-on-wheels/

[OKNancy]

44. thank you!! I was about to embarrass myself on Facebook

[kcr]

48. Okay. Snopes is quickly losing all credibility.

Because Trump didn't specifically point his finger at Meals on Wheels and declare it gone as if he were King, and because Meals on Wheels gets funding from other sources, they declare it Mostly False? Ridiculous. Trump deserves every bit of the negative reaction he's getting for this. This budget slashing must be fought hard. Fuck Snopes.

[zipplewrath]

57. It's not a political site

They don't concern themselves with what Trump "deserves". They are just raw fact based and roughly speaking, he was slashing a whole program that INCLUDES federal funding for MoW. Additionally, it won't "end" MoW by a long shot and is less than 10% of their funding.

Political discourse isn't often about rugged specificity. It is about causes and consequences. Snopes is just about facts. They'll parse heavily and examine each section individually.

[kcr]

66. What does not being a political site have to do with it?

Is he slashing a budget or not? That is either true or it isn't. Whether Meals on Wheels is getting funding from another source is irrelevant. Whether he actually stated his intentions that he wanted it to end or not is irrelevant. Meals on Wheels might actually survive. That is true. But that does not render the budget cut false.

The problem with Snopes is their failure to regard any nuance. It's fine to mention that Meals on Wheals can survive the budget cut. What isn't fine is a misleading Mostly False conclusion that gives the impression that such a budget cut is harmless. It doesn't matter whether or not they're a political website. That is wrong.

[zipplewrath]

73. They avoid drawing conclusions

As I said, they parse and evaluate each piece. If most of the pieces aren't true, it's going to get labeled "mostly false". That label isn't intended to evaluate the larger point someone was trying to make. In this case, depending upon how they parsed it, it was going to be "mostly false". Meals on Wheels isn't shutting down. The cuts weren't targeted just at MoW. The impact on MoW is less than 10%. And it isn't clear that the anyone outside of the department that proposed the cut knew that MoW was affected.

Political discourse on the other hand has devolved to the point where we DON'T demand that assertions stand up to this kind of scrutiny and parsing and rather allow for all of the underlying facts to be wrong as long as the overall intent of the assertion is consistent with ones own point of view.

[kcr]

75. Okay. I'm not trying to be argumentative, here.

But there is no drawing a conclusion here. It's stating a fact. They even state it themselves. He, or the GOP actually, is in fact proposing the budget cut. To denounce the WHOLE thing as mostly false because some think will end the program is patently ridiculous! If they simply made it clear that the program itself wasn't likely to be in danger, I'd be okay with it. Because that would be accurate. But they're not.

Did the article they're quoting draw an inaccurate conclusion? Probably so, given the facts. But their own conclusion of mostly false is sloppy, because the GOP did indeed cut the budget. And it's far from the first time they've done this. Snopes drives me crazy with this.

[zipplewrath]

102. I understand

They are fairly pedantic. I'm old enough that I used to interact with the authors in USENET. They have a very pointed methodology that I understand, even if I find it a tad odd. But I also find the nature of political discourse to be a bit odd as well. A fairly common arguing tactic is when cuts or changes are proposed, the opponents will seek to reframe in the oddest ways.

If Obama wanted to eliminate some program, or change one, and the effect was that a facility was going to close, or there would be reductions in staffing in some government facility, it would be framed as:

"Obama seeks to put Rosey Williams on unemployment!!!!!". Yes, Rosey's position would be eliminated, but Obama didn't think one whip about Rosey, and it isn't clear she won't just be transferred to some other job.

Yes, elimination of the program will have as a consequence that the MoW program will lose a bit of funding. It's an amount that is minimal and it is a portion of a larger program with much wider impact. MoW will continue. They may even seek OTHER government grants from OTHER programs. There was nothing in here to prevent that. This isn't Planned Parenthood. Conversely, they cut the whole program. They paid no attention to what the impact was which was reckless. If I had been snopes I'd probably have rated is as something akin to "overblown", but not "mostly false".

[pnwmom]

50. I vote mostly true. His budget WiLL end Federal funding for Meals on Wheels.

That is the most it could ever do.

[kcr]

74. Yes, exactly.

It ends the federal funding for Meals on Wheels, along with other programs in many cities and communities. Hundreds of thousands of jobs are on the line if this funding is eliminated. Meals on Wheels as an organization will probably be fine, but you're right. It would have been more accurate for Snopes to state it as mostly true, because the communities and individuals served by the program would still be hit hard by this budget cut. It's still true that he did it.

[QC]

40. Old poor people do not generate corporate profits and thus have no value.

That's the mentality of the people who are running things.

[Johnny2X2X]

41. This is how sick they are

This program gives people independence well past the time they would have to go into a care facility or a hospital, because of that it is a huge money saver. The Reps want these people in the hospital so the hospitals can generate more profits, bottom line.

IF they get their way, human beings are little more than cattle. They'll pack the hospitals so they can turn more profits, just as they plan to explode the prison population and privatize the industry so they can have legal slave labor there. I could easily see the inmate population increasing 10 fold under Twitler, 15, 20, maybe even 50 million Americans, mostly minorities and poor enslaved in prisons so Trump's buddies can profit.

[mchill]

42. And yet my GOP Congressman collects millions in farm subsidies while voting against the poor

Rep LaMalfa - First Congressional District California Rice Farmer

Maybe there is some hope in the $5 billion Dept of Agriculture cut, farm subsidies are in there. All he cares about are dams and farmers, i.e., himself. This is a reliablely Trump district, so not sure it is possible to wake enough of the idiots up to oust him.

[Mrs. Overall]

43. Completely heartless and shocking.

[Hekate]

47. Note: the Mad King has not managed to get one single thing passed thru Congress yet....

Things are not going well for the A*Hole in Chief. Hold on to that thought.

[FakeNoose]

72. Yes but this budget is drafted by the GOP, not Trump

This is their blueprint, and they've had 8 years to work on it in total darkness.

[zentrum]

49. He wants to end

....guidelines and regulations for nutrition in school lunches.

Wants to end PBS entirely.

Sessions removed Federal guidelines for transgender protections in schools across the country within 48 hours of taking office.

It's not just poor people who are on their own.

We all are.

Call your rep every day. Get louder.

[eezapata]

51. who are the real leeches????

the defense industry, oil companies, farmers, etc and republicans want to cut meals on wheels??? give me break.

[mvd]

52. Hi, welcome to DU

My grandparents relied on Meals on Wheels for a time. It is an essential program. I really wish these Repukes could experience the feeling of being poor and/or needy - it MAY change their tune. I say may because I don't even know if they have any heart at all.

[NRaleighLiberal]

54. farmers? Pretty broad, that.

[Jim Beard]

90. All those red counties represent DIRT.

What do you think the ratio of farmers that are Democrats/ Republicans? In my county it is at least 95% if not more. I get copies of the primary's voter sheets and It tells the story. It is a small county and I can separate who voted for which party and it is very easy when the county voted 85% for Trump. Only industry is agriculture.

[NRaleighLiberal]

93. Even in NC, I know a LOT of farmers who are blue, not red.

I also know how hard it is to grow something, sell it, get a decent price. So no, I prefer not to use a broad brush, or generalities, when it comes to providing us with healthy food.

[Jim Beard]

94. Not in Texas for sure.

I hope this link helps. Dave started making these maps long before the newspaper published the graphic of the "Big Red Area" .

Before that Democrats were red and republicans were blue. He has kept it that way. Its a good site for a political junkie.

I hope there's a bunch of Democrat farmers there.

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/datagraph.php?fips=37&year=2016&off=0&elect=0&f=0

[NRaleighLiberal]

95. I think that you are right in terms of variation region to region, state to state - and

also the scope/scale of farms. Here we have lots of smaller CSA Farms, very liberal.

thanks for the link.

[UrbScotty]

100. Exactly. Big oil and defense contractors are the ones living off the system.

Welcome to DU, by the way!

[uppityperson]

107. Farmers are leeches? Those growing the food we eat are leeches? How?

[Gothmog]

53. After trump takes away their health care, the elderly will not need to eat

[Jimbo101]

55. Link to the Hill article about Trump's Meals On Wheels Cut,..

Yes it cuts "Meals On Wheels"

The Hill

[JPZenger]

67. Older Americans Act funding

The Community Development Block Grant program is a very important program for many activities in cities and towns, and is proposed for complete elimination.

However, the majority of federal funding for Meals on Wheels apparently comes through an Older Americans Act appropriation. I haven't been able to find any info on whether that is proposed to be cut, or not. Health and Human Services is taking a huge hit overall.

[llmart]

105. That's what we are forgetting here...

Community Block Grants help those small rural townships fund many things they would not be able to afford. I worked eight years in public administration and our local township (all repukes by the way), received plenty of money from this program over the years. Wonder how those running these "red" rural townships will feel about their party now when those extras dry up?

Actions have consequences. They're about to find out.

[hibbing]

56. Social Darwinism n/t

[joet67]

58. Part of Ryan's "Cat Food Theory" of elder care and care for the poor.

[sinkingfeeling]

59. But, but, the GOP is the party of "pro-life". Guess that's just for the unborn.

[Honeycombe8]

60. OMG. That's really upsetting.

I guess that says it all about what they plan to do with Social Security and Medicare.

This is very upsetting. Lives will be ruined.

[Runningdawg]

61. The next blow will come

when Administration 45 passes a law making it illegal for private citizens (we already have a law for businesses) to feed the needy. The next thing he will attack are food banks. Did you give the homeless woman outside the convenience store a bagel? 5 years hard labor for you and your family.

[FakeNoose]

88. I don't think it comes down to that

Don't forget that conservatives all run on the "states rights" platform.

They want the Federal government to back out of it, but they won't ever tell individual states what to do.
If you live in a state that has good programs for the public welfare (e.g. New York) then you're lucky.
If you don't, well too effin' bad.

Remember that all politics are local.

Fight for public welfare programs in your own community and you can't go wrong.
That's a good plan until 45 is a bad memory.

[spanone]

63. 'he's just doing what he said he would do'

as if that makes it right.

fuck trump and his heartless fucking party

[TheDebbieDee]

64. The budget hasn't been approved by Congress

yet - call/email/ur Congressman/Senators EVERYDAY to complain abt the things u don't like in Trump's budget! Obamacare repeal, PP defunding, MOWs defunding, etc.

[democratisphere]

65. Anything good is gone with republiCONs.

[hadEnuf]

68. The "Cat Food Don"

[mcar]

70. And it's such a tiny part of the budget

Just a drop in the bucket really. It helps so many.

[Kaleva]

76. 3% of Meals On Wheels funding comes from the govt.

The program gets most its money from contributions by individuals, foundations and corporations.

[Left-over]

77. Thewolf in the sheeps fleece!!!

Let me introduce myself by saying I am a christian that lives in the midst of the proverbial "bible belt". The Jesus that I worship said to feed the hungry, help the refugee, and asked the apostle Peter three time do you love me and if you do feed my sheep. To me this means that we should care for one another no matter where you come from. Jesus also used the example of Samaritans in two most important stories. The Pharisees and Sadducees, the so called religious leaders of that day, hated the Samaritans. By using them as an example Jesus calls upon people to aid even those who are different and from other walks of life. By taking money from programs like meals on wheels or any other programs meant to help people who have little to start with and giving it to the rich and the corporations all the while building more bombs when we have enough to destroy mankind is in my opinion lunacy of the highest order.

[NRaleighLiberal]

79. welcome to DU - lunacy - but also staggering immorality

[gopiscrap]

128. welcome to DU

[FlyByNight]

78. Vulgar sociopathy

There's no end to the Rs shamelessness. I'm almost too numb to be angry anymore.

[Vinca]

80. Great post.

Trump is putting every dime into defense, but if everything else in the country is gone there's really nothing worth defending.

[TNLib]

82. I know a couple on meals on wheels they voted for trump

How many elderly screwed themselves by voting for this asshole?

I'm trying hard to actually give a crap anymore.

[LenaBaby61]

89. I know a couple on meals on wheels they voted for trump.

"How many elderly screwed themselves by voting for this asshole?"

"I'm trying hard to actually give a crap anymore."


My neighbor told me about her 76 year old aunt's situation of living in Nebraska (A retired widow lucky to be in good health/has a few bucks saved/SS coming in through her husband who retired as a Col. from the Air Force. And although childless, she has a solid network of friends around and of course her niece here in California), and many of her friends depend of course on government/social services (Some receive meals on wheels, All of course receive Medicare/Social Security which was EARNED), and MANY of of them
voted for tRumputin. This aunt also told her niece (my neighbor) that these folks are increasingly living lives of delusion, because they all actually believe tRumps lies about this "mess" of a country he said he inherited from Pres. Obama and about how "bad" things ARE. They also believe that Obamacare is "bad" and needs to be done away with, and some called Pres. Obama smug and said his wife was very gauche The aunt said it's shameful how dumb and stupid they've become recently, and that post November 8th's election, she said she made it up in her mind to slowly distance herself from them because they're so stupid. She told them how bad she thought this administration would be, but few listened. They somewhat even questioned HER sanity, which made her angry. SHE said that if any of them ask her for help or dare look for a sympathetic should to cry on, she'll have no problems throwing it back up in their faces that not only did they mock Pres. Obama and his wife, but that they voted to give the Devil aided by the GOP and russia the presidency of our country.

I'm relaying this story to you to let you know (You probably already know this) that even older people are having issues with each other and losing friendships due to this hideous, ruskie-installed puppet's sham presidency.

[TNLib]

92. Thanks

It's nice to know there are some sane seniors. My father and stepmother both voted for Trump. My mother-inlaw as well. My mother doesn't vote but loves Trump.

To be honest they have all shown signs of mental decline the past couple of years. I'm worried about their SS and Medicare Medicaid benefits.

[LenaBaby61]

98. It's nice to know there are some sane seniors.

TNLib, there are many sane seniors. But then again, I live in California and know of NO seniors who voted for tRumputin.

And, you're right to worry about your parents SS and Medicare benefits, because the thuglicans for years have wanted to privatize those great programs, and while they may not like tRumputin and know he's a crazy man installed by the ruskies, he is the vehicle for which they can get that DONE. I'm lucky--if you want to call it that--since I have no parents or children to care for. I'm by myself, and only have to worry about me.

I DO feel for those with aging parents that they may be FORCED to care for physically & financially IF SS/Medicare are privatized (will mean being cut or done away with) by the thuglicans/GOP.

ALL will be in a world of hurt and pain for sure, and it's horrible how so many seniors allowed themselves to be duped & bamboozled by this ruskie-installed, racist, hating pig & GOP who WILL cut their throats figuratively and think nothing if it.

[marybourg]

86. We haven't had meals on wheels where I live

since the hospital went onto café style food service. We do have a local non-profit that operates a lunch-only delivery, but at ~$10/day, it's not for the poor.

[indie9197]

87. Meals on Wheels is not going away, thankfully. It is only 3% funded by the Federal Govt

I was reading Google News and this was a link

http://www.snopes.com/trump-meals-on-wheels/

[Hayabusa]

91. About a decade ago

My grandma moved out on her own. It didn't last long due to her health issues causing her to have to move in with us, but she still rented out an apartment for about six months. The apartments were Section 8 funded and specifically for older people, and the owners helped the residents sign up for the local Meals on Wheels program. For those six months, MoW helped supplement her food, so her granddaughter didn't have to constantly run to the grocery store for her. This is why this pisses me off the most, because now when I see Trump, I can practically see him turn to my grandmother and say "fuck you, you don't matter." Well, she matters the world to me!

Fuck you, Trump. and may you burn in every hell that exists.

[Achilleaze]

96. republican comrades PISS on America's poor and elderly

[Jim Beard]

97. In Texas we have state regional governing "Commissions". .................

http://www.nortexrpc.org/other_regions.htm

They are given bloc grant money from the Feds and the State. Sometimes it is not enough and the county pitches in and then contributions and then the people have to pay for their meals.

[Solly Mack]

99. After my cancer treatment my body rebelled and I began to starve to death.

I couldn't eat. I couldn't swallow.

I was in the hospital for a full month.

I was lucky to have insurance but I know how it feels to have your life drain away from you. The weakening from not being able to eat. The lifelessness it causes. Where sleep is the only release but you fear dying if you do sleep.

I know how it feels to long for food. The gnawing at the gut that does finally stop but only because your body begins to feed on itself and you begin to waste away.

I was malnourished, my blood had stopped clotting, and they were worried about organ failure.

I lost so much weight in such a short period of time that heart damage was also a concern.

No one should have to go hungry. Starving is a horrible way to die.

Aside from the cancer, I was an otherwise healthy adult.

I'm not elderly. I have resources. I have so much more than so many, but I still know how it feels to starve.

You don't let people go hungry. Especially not the most vulnerable.

This can't be allowed.

[guyfromla]

101. I wish this a..le is starving when he is old and feeble

The things that i wish not to happen to an elderly person changes when a Rethug opens his/her mouth. They preach religion to everyone, and yet go against every tenet of all the holy books. Every politician tells lies, but these thugs will say something and do exactly the opposite to their constituents.

[lordsummerisle]

104. k&r n/t

[Cha]

111. I know, shockey.. it's awful. :(

[bdamomma]

112. He is taking his revenge on our way

of life, he needs to go...........oh there are some thing left unsaid, but I have never seen a full fledge assault on the American people. He wants people to die. Doing Bannon's and Putin's bidding to ruin our country. THESE ARE OUR HOMEGROWN TERRORISTS.

don the con is a heartless vengeful sick man. Gutting everything and trying to break our will, not going to work.

[PatrickforO]

117. Cool. It is BECAUSE of Trump and the tyranny of evil men that so many Americans

have mobilized, become engage and are signing petitions, writing letters and calling their US Congress Reps and Sens. Everywhere people like you and me are getting more involved in local politics.

If there is a silver lining in this cloud it is exactly this!

[sarcasmo]

118. Sick, soulless, heartless, bastards.

[pansypoo53219]

119. first i want all his followers to see how awful he is. as is ryan, grover norquist + libertarian ilk

trump can keep the basket of deplorables.

[dembotoz]

120. This is a great issue to smack ur gop family with

And town halls
And when they say right to life stand up and scream bullshit

[Maaattcast]

121. I know

I know, this budget proposal really was the worst discretionary budget I think we've ever seen. Even republicans in Congress hate it, politico had a quote of a senior house republican saying Trumps budget is "so politically toxic he couldn't get 50 votes for it in the house" (where 218 votes is needed). So lucky for the country, it really does look like the budget is totally dead on arrival (a number of GOPers don't even want to fund his wall) and hopefully we can rest assured that meals on wheels will continue to keep some of our most vulnerable fellow Americans from falling going hungry.

[dlk]

125. This is the Same Party that Cut Food Stamps

No one should be surprised by the cuts to Meals on Wheels. The Republican Party is very proud of the fact that they have already cut food stamps. This is what they stand for -- literally taking food off the table of starving Americans to give greater tax cuts to the richest. It's another glaring example of the pathological avarice that has become an epidemic.

[iamateacher]

126. I work with a local Meals on Wheels and Snopes is not accurate

There is no central MOW's organization. They are run by local organizations. How much $$$ any given MOWs gets from the state or federal government depends on whether they get private donations. For instance, my organization is in a middle class area, we do not take state money, because we get donations from our community. A MOWs in a poor area might need government funds to survive.

[DonCoquixote]

127. let's not pretend that this is not a feature

we cannot go ahead and attempt to attack this by using reason. As much is some people did not want to hear it, those in the Christian churches will make sure that many people cannot use their reason, the same way cutting off someone's leg to prevent them from walking. There are many in America, mostly on the right, but way too many in the left who think that the churches should take the Vanguard when it comes to helping the poor. Of course, the real reason behind this is that if you can go ahead and control someone's access to food and other services, you can make it very clear to them that they either obey you or die. That is why the churches want control of schools, it's why they hate social workers, it's why they hate public colleges. If they know that they can starve your granny and force you to comply, they will. Of course, their religion makes them still think that they are doing the greatest good, for your own good, but that is because their churches have deliberately replaced true empathy with doctrine. It's like some contagion but somehow turns all the oxygen in your blood stream to nitrogen, choking you.


Are there some churches that genuinely do good? Yes there are. Has liberalism been the beneficiary of some of these leaders and churches? Yes! Go ahead and quote Dr. Martin Luther King, go ahead and point out that single-payer insurance was invented by a clergyman in Canada. However, there is a reason why the Scriptures of most of the major world religions, including Christianity, Judaism and Islam admonish clergy who focus too much on establishing their authority. There is always a danger, even in religions who Scripture warns about hypocrisy and corruption, that the churches will focus too much on power. The writers of the Scriptures knew that which is why they use images like "whitened sepulchers." Granted, the writers of those scriptures also go ahead and explicitly command people to show respect and care for those who were not of the faith. Think of Islam's strict commandments about the "people of the book", or Judaism's admonishment "remember when you were a stranger." But these nice features of the Scriptures only come in when empathy has not been shut off, and when money and power come in, empathy is targeted, because he gets in the way of making more money and power.


Please, let's not be surprised that something is basic as giving a poor elderly person food should be one of the first programs in the crosshairs.. It's not just the fact that many of the GOP love the idea of those who remember FDR and the 60s dying off, though that is a feature. It's not just the fact that many of the GOP feel that them having a second helping of steak while other starve is somehow fulfilling God's will, because they are God's elect who are the only ones that deserve good things, though that is a feature. It's not just the fact that they can target the more stupid and gullible of generation X and the millennial's who feel this is the only revenge they will get against the generation that they feel screwed them over, leaving nothing for them. This is nothing less than an attempt to do this sort of wholesale purges that the Inquisition, Stalin and yes Adolf Hitler could only dream of. Do not assume that any low is too low for these people to sink to, because I assure you, while you hear the cries of starving children and elderly, they are hearing what they think of our choir of angels singing their praise and promising them paradise. I would call it mental illness, but frankly that would be a grave insult to the mentally ill, many of whom at least tried to get therapy because they know they have a problem. Oh, let's not forget, the churches, and with that I include many of the feel-good schemes like the sort Ayn Rand sold, often have a problem with mental health too, that's because a whole scheme depends on you being able to pray away whatever malady you have, accept the whatever cruelty they find useful.