Did Comey make a deal with Trump?

[kentuck]

On the Obama "wiretapping" story, Trump has doubled down by saying we will know a lot more in a couple of weeks.

It appears that Trump is trying to buy time to cover up his felonious charges against Obama?

He plans on using the General Flynn phone call with the Russian ambassador as proof that Trump Tower was "wiretapped". He believes he can win the PR battle if Comey just gives him a little more time.

In my opinion, Comey has delayed giving information to Congressional investigators at the request of Donald Trump.

Trump believes he can delay all uncomfortable decisions, like releasing his tax forms, for example, and eventually the people will forget about it.

We will see in a couple of weeks.

[hollowdweller]

1. What if Comey is closing the noose on Trump?

What if his keeping the spotlight on Clinton during the election had more to do with diverting attention from the very real against Trump and his Russian connections?

[hamsterjill]

2. So what does Trump have on Comey to get Comey to do this?

Hell, I freely admit that I haven't a clue as to what is going on. But something is. So I'm not disparaging your theory. I'm just discussing.

What are your thoughts as to why Comey would stick his neck out for Trump?

[RKP5637]

8. The bottom line is, something is definitely going on. My thoughts are someone/group

was/is under investigation/surveillance. Who knows if tRump is part of it. tRump in his stupid ways possibly blew the cover off of it when he, as usual, stupidly attributed it directly to Obama and blasted out one of his ignorant tweets when he saw something highly confidential.

[hamsterjill]

14. Oh, hell yes SOMETHING IS going on.

The only American citizens who don't know that or won't admit it are the Trump crazies. The rest of us - ANY normal, ordinary common sense thinking person - knows full well that SOMETHING is going on.

We just don't know what that something is.

But in my mind, all of this goes back way further than Trump's tweet about wiretapping. This goes back to a time period before the election. And I don't think that Trump's tweets are going out without some type of filter. The people in charge of this elaborate takeover aren't going to let an idiot tweeting at 3:00 a.m. do something to jeopardize their plans.

[RKP5637]

16. Yep! Exactly!!! It's far bigger than just Trump, and goes way back!!!! n/t

[2naSalit]

28. Cheato is

a squirrel. The wiretaps were very likely attached to Flynn and since he is an American and he was in talks w/cheatoInc... if cheato was overheard, it may have been for talking to another American already under watch while conspiring to trash the nation in every way possible... So what if he was sitting on his golden throne while engaging in that conversation?

[tableturner]

3. I disagree.

[lagomorph777]

4. My thought on hearing that was,

"What dirt has Putin provided to Trump?" Trump's tone here is the same he usually uses just before a Wikileaks dump.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. Trump often says something is going to happen at a future date

and then nothing happens. I think he's just throwing out more bullshit, figuring that in a couple of weeks everybody will have forgotten about it. There's still nothing there.

[Tanuki]

11. Yes, like the news conference he promised Melania would give

to show her immigration documents and clear up questions about allegations she had worked illegally, or all the birther evidence that his private investigators were uncovering on Hawaii. He is a pathological liar and chronic bearer of false witness, who hopes everyone else is as stupid and distractible as he is. Evil, corrupt aspiring tyrant who never should have gotten any closer to the Oval Office than a group tour for out-of-towners.

[Cosmocat]

12. This is the likely thing

nm

[hamsterjill]

15. Yes.

It's really not all that complicated to think this of Trump. He is, after all, nothing more than a former reality television star who is setting up a cliffhanger.

To me, however, there is more going on than just Trump. There are more figures involved in all of this shadiness, etc. Trump is the distraction while the brains of the organization that staged the takeover of the country are doing their stuff.

Sound too dastardly? I hope it is...

[H2O Man]

6. No.

[Wounded Bear]

7. Comey is, in many ways, hard to read...

He totally screwed the pooch on the Hillary announcement, and seems to have cost the country dearly.

But now, he seems to be keeping things pretty close to the vest. Is he over-reacting now since he fucked up so royally in Oct?

Is he actually following FBI procedures and norms now, in not discussing on-going investigations in public?

Is he, as you opine, trying to protect the President? Does he think he's operating in the best interests of the country, or on some ideological principle?

There is a sense of doom and foreboding that just seems to be looming over our whole political system these days. Shit's getting real. Questions far outnumber answers and that's an unsettling place to be in our politics.

[meow2u3]

20. One long-shot theory of mine

is that Comey might have had tRump installed to bring him down later. Very highly unlikely, but plausible given tRump's penchant for crime that repeatedly goes unpunished.

[kentuck]

9. Comey is scheduled to meet with intelligence Committee on Monday.

If he still refuses to give them any information, I think this theory might have more credibility?

[H2O Man]

17. He cannot

speak in the public hearing about an open investigation. Thus, on Monday, he will confirm that President Obama did not wire-tap Trump.

Discussions of the on-going investigations has to be behind closed doors. He has, I can say without any chance of error, spoken to top members of congress about these already. They cannot confirm or deny this.

There are firm rules that govern these things. Comey is following these rules.

[itcfish]

10. The FBI Could

have easily been tapping the Russians.

[kentuck]

13. That is what Trump will say.

And try to spin that to excuse his charges against Obama. Comey may have other stuff?

[H2O Man]

18. Comey knows much more.

The congressional leaders and he are attempting to be sure their investigations do not interfere with the FBI's.

[kentuck]

19. I would agree with that.

But why could Comey not respond to letter from Lindsey Graham?

[H2O Man]

25. Valid question.

Senator Graham is sure enjoying this, isn't he? He seems -- in this context -- almost likable.

I've recently posted two essays on DU:GD that detail much of what is happening in DC. I believe the second one explains the position that Comey is in -- The DoJ does not believe that Trump declassified any documents in his twitter outbursts. Yet that can come back on Trump. For Comey to answer -- in person, in a letter, or an e-mail -- all hold to the exact same rules.

[tableturner]

21. If Comey is aligned with Trump, why would he give members of Congress information that has

repeatedly caused such a negative reaction by those told? Despite some griping by members of Congress, over and over those given briefings by Comey have expressed and shown how alarmed they were by the information. Do you think he would tell them things that caused such a reaction only to whitewash it later? No way!

[LAS14]

23. There's more reaction info like we saw from Feinstein and Grassley yesterday?

I found that video very disturbing. Do you have links to other situations where body language or regular language reveals distress?

[tableturner]

24. Don't have links for body language, but I agree on the video. Back to the main subject:

I do not think Comey would get away with doing that....all hell would break loose. Plus, I think he was forced by the NY FBI rogues to talk about Hillary's new emails. He knows that harmed his reputation badly, and he most likely also knows that the only way to rehabilitate it is to handle this properly.

[H2O Man]

26. Accurate assessment

Comey reported on his not calling for an indictment in the late summer/ early fall. He was able to answer questions before congress, because it was not an active case. He told congress that he would contact them if anything else came to light -- thus, his letter when he re-opened the case, and his comment when he re-closed it.

At the time of his test, he could not say in public that the server had been hacked. That was an open case.

As you note, there are rules that Comey must follow. If he makes a mistake, Trump will fire him.

[kentuck]

31. I would agree that Trump would fire him at the first sign of disloyalty.

And that Comey has to play his cards real close to his vest.

[LAS14]

30. I've withheld judgment on Comey, based on Obama's opinion of him.

[Wounded Bear]

29. Congresswoman Maxine Waters is not impressed with Comey...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/01/13/maxine_waters_comey_has_no_credibility.html

[Xolodno]

22. I don't think so.

But my tinfoil hat hypothesis is that Comey had a deal with Pence. And they are just waiting for the "opportune moment" to bring him down.

[anneboleyn]

33. This may be very true. Pence will likely escape any allegations.

[ymetca]

27. They're all making deals up there in D.C.

with fewer and fewer of them any good for most of us.

I'm guessing Comey is stuck in the maze of trying to find the Russian moles in our so-called "intelligence community", which now includes several million contractors, scattered all over the world. Good luck with that!

My guess is this will drag out for the next 4 years with nothing really coming of it, as behind the scenes the voter suppression and vote-rigging/MSM "exit polls mean nothing anymore" strategy advances.

After all, Democracy really can't be trusted to "run the country" properly.

[KittyWampus]

32. Sick of stupid conspiracy theory threads.

[kentuck]

34. As of right now, everything is a conspiracy, in regards to Donald Trump.

We don't know anything. With the lack of transparency, conspiracies flow naturally.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

35. I wouldn't doubt Trump can influence him. Remember how thrilled he was when

trump told him he was staying on?

BUT. if you are talking phone call - that's the part that's could be off. Trump and
Spicer are definitely trying to put it out there that it is something other than
a phone call. But what? camera? they are hinting at "surveillance" which I
take to mean watching. So, if someone was watching Flynn, not like they
could follow him up to the solid gold gaudy floor? Cameras in elevator ? hahahah

[lpbk2713]

36. I don't know.

[GliderGuider]

37. Extremely improbable. nt