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Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:22 PM Mar 2017

FL to make it easier to shoot somebody.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/03/florida-guns-stand-your-ground-law

If the measure becomes law, the state would again be at the forefront of expanding self-defense laws. Florida would become the first state to apply a tougher standard to the law during the pretrial hearing. Under the measure, the burden of proof would be shifted to prosecutors and defendants would no longer have to present evidence, typically by taking the stand, to prove their claim of self-defense.

Instead, prosecutors would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt — the highest legal standard — that the use of force was not justified. ...

Prosecutors have fiercely opposed the measure, saying it runs counter to the traditional workings of the criminal justice system. Typically, when defendants seek the dismissal of charges at a hearing — arguing entrapment, for example — it is up to them to present evidence and persuade the court, not the other way around.

The new standard would require prosecutors to essentially put on a nonjury mini-trial, requiring victims and witnesses to testify twice and delaying the actual trial, prosecutors said. And with defendants no longer required to offer evidence — which usually means taking the stand — there will be little, if any downside, for them to claim a Stand Your Ground defense.
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crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
1. Another reason to never visit FL again
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:23 PM
Mar 2017

(Not that I want to-- I don't get along with hot weather).

How long until this claims a legislator?

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. White wing effort to provide more protection for gun fanciers and Zman when they
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:40 PM
Mar 2017

shoot am unarmed kid.

louis-t

(23,288 posts)
5. And the gun "enthusiasts" are still arguing
Thu Mar 16, 2017, 05:57 PM
Mar 2017

that the murder rate hasn't gone up, every SYG shooting is justified, blah, blah. Even when presented with evidence of highly questionable "self-defense" shootings, they still obfuscate and claim I'm the "dishonest" one.

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