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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
3. I do not think the Trumps- as a family are into reading good books-the arts--or the sciences
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:23 AM
Mar 2017

for that matter. Maybe some are, but certainly not Trump himself.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
6. Agree
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:31 AM
Mar 2017

I was standing in line waiting to see Hillary last year, and one of my "line friends" said that Ivanka was smart. Another of my "line friends" said that she wasn't. He said he had gone to Wharton with Don Jr. and they were not smart. He also said that Don Jr. was a nice guy back then, but changed. He said that, at the time, Don Jr. never had any money. His father had to pay Ivana child support and wouldn't give the children money beyond that. This guy said he'd often cover Don Jr.'s part.

But I suspect that Ivanka had whatever her spoiled ass self desired from her dad.

whathehell

(29,067 posts)
4. Tony Schwartz, who wrote 'The Art of the Deal', says he never saw
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:26 AM
Mar 2017

a single book in any of his three residences.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. Sounds like cripplingly short attention span.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 07:32 AM
Mar 2017

Which a lot of observers believe is one of his serious problems.

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at M.I.T.; good genes, very good genes, O.K., very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, O.K. …”

Rump, believed to be criticizing the Iran nuclear deal.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Hmm! The sons rate negative numbers on the
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 02:04 PM
Mar 2017

impressive scale, for sure. Both, but especially the older, ethically challenged at best and likely involved in illegal activities.

I haven't formed an opinion about Ivanka. She's clearly rational and generally well functioning. To have a relationship with that mentally disordered father would require always seeming to be 100% on his side, and intensely admiring. If he distrusted her at any point, their relationship would be severely broken, perhaps permanently.

From what I've read, when her parents divorced when she was a young girl and he withdrew from her life (literally to a lower floor in a highrise), she actually reorganized her life so that she could call him every day from school and she could drop in on him every day he was there in order to keep the relationship alive.

What I'm wondering is if she (and the sons also sometimes) may be doing some of those immoral, unethical, stupid, and/or incredibly tacky things specifically because he advises her to and because constantly striving to please him is how she not only manages to stay close and have some influence but avoids being shut out in the cold with zero influence.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
10. Glasses
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 08:16 AM
Mar 2017

If he even wanted to read, it's obvious that he needs a good pair of glasses.
(Oh, but vanity prevents that - doesn't it, dear Don?)

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
12. His speech sounds like it is from
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 08:22 AM
Mar 2017

one of my little guy's books....from last year when he was in first grade. Short sentences, simple structure, reads like a book report from a first grader.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
13. I don't think he's even read his own ghost written book, much less anyone else's book.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 08:26 AM
Mar 2017

The man is a bloody idiot. He can sign his name to executive orders he apparently can't read and that's it.

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