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Augiedog

(2,545 posts)
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:07 AM Mar 2017

Is Tillerson the most dangerous sec of state ever? Is his taunting of North Korea designed to start

a war? Why on earth would a rational person challenge a despotic maniac ruler ( no I don't mean trump, this time) who has nuclear weapons?

To suggest that a first strike may be needed is beyond irresponsible. North Korea, delusional or not, will see this as a declaration of war. Actually a restart of the original Korean War. Note to right wing: China was totally involved in the war and would be again.

The North Koreans will see this as giving them no choice but to attack first. They know that any first strike on our part will primarily be to decapitate the government.

Our government seems to have lost its collective mind. Republicans will not be happy until they have used nuclear weapons against somebody, maybe anybody, just as long as they get to use them. Within minutes of that happening you will see suspension of the constitution and draconian military law enforcement engaged. This seems to be all about part of a preplanned agenda that could very well risk all of us in nuclear brinkmanship.

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Is Tillerson the most dangerous sec of state ever? Is his taunting of North Korea designed to start (Original Post) Augiedog Mar 2017 OP
He is a CEO, not a diplomat. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #1
Buh-bye Seoul. Sayonara Tokyo. Adios Manilla. - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #2
What is going to happen to Tokyo or Manilla? former9thward Mar 2017 #6
DPRK test-fired a missile that landed in the water about 60 nautical miles from KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #7
Prospective.... Lochloosa Mar 2017 #8
I agree with you. former9thward Mar 2017 #14
It doesn't matter whether they can get a nuclear warhead onto a missile jberryhill Mar 2017 #9
Two unsaid words C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #3
this entire mis-administration is psychotic spanone Mar 2017 #4
Exxon wants oil prices to go up. FSogol Mar 2017 #5
True rockfordfile Mar 2017 #17
thought they didn't reveal their plans in advance lame54 Mar 2017 #10
AHHH ! Best post of day !!! Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #12
Screamed at TV when I saw his statement this morning. WTH is this no-nothing Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #11
A Secretary of State can't discuss military options? former9thward Mar 2017 #15
not this one Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #20
Exactly! smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #19
Irish coffee? Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #21
This is a distraction technique flamingdem Mar 2017 #13
Business management and statesmanship are different skill sets dalton99a Mar 2017 #16
Rexxon was to tired for further negotiations. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #18
Trump is stupid enough to think that radiation fallout won't ever reach Mara-Lago. lunatica Mar 2017 #22

former9thward

(31,980 posts)
6. What is going to happen to Tokyo or Manilla?
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:22 AM
Mar 2017

We have been told over and over again N. Korea has no capability to fire nuclear missiles. You mean that's wrong? They do have it? Do you think they are going to invade those countries?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
7. DPRK test-fired a missile that landed in the water about 60 nautical miles from
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:25 AM
Mar 2017

Tokyo (or maybe it was the Japanese islands, I don't remember which) several weeks ago. They have no ability to invade conventionally, but they have the ability now to wreak massive destruction on U.S. allies in the region (and that's not even factoring in the capabilities of the People's Republic of China).

Lochloosa

(16,063 posts)
8. Prospective....
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:31 AM
Mar 2017

On February 7, 2016, roughly a month after an alleged hydrogen bomb test, North Korea claimed to have put a satellite into orbit around the Earth. Japanese Prime Minister Shinzō Abe had warned the North to not launch the rocket, and if it did and the rocket violated Japanese territory, it would be shot down. Nevertheless, North Korea launched the rocket anyway, claiming the satellite was purely intended for peaceful, scientific purposes. Several nations, including the United States, Japan, and South Korea, have criticized the launch, and despite North Korean claims that the rocket was for peaceful purposes, it has been heavily criticized as an attempt to perform an ICBM test under the guise of a peaceful satellite launch. China also criticized the launch, however urged "the relevant parties" to "refrain from taking actions that may further escalate tensions on the Korean peninsula".[11]

While some North Korean pronouncements have been treated with skepticism and ridicule, analysts ( American military ) are treating the unusual pace of North Korean rocket and nuclear testing in early 2016 quite seriously. Admiral Bill Gortney, head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command, told Congress in March 2016, "It's the prudent decision on my part to assume that [Kim Jong Un] has the capability to miniaturize a nuclear weapon and put it on an ICBM," suggesting a major shift from a few years earlier.[12]

North Korea appeared to launch a missile test from a submarine on 23 April 2016; while the missile only traveled 30 km, one U.S. analyst noted that "North Korea's sub launch capability has gone from a joke to something very serious".[13] North Korea conducted multiple missile tests in 2016.[14]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_North_Korean_missile_tests

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former9thward

(31,980 posts)
14. I agree with you.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

And was being somewhat sarcastic in my post. I think we should take N. Korea seriously but that view has been derided here as war mongering against a country that is "all talk and no action."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
9. It doesn't matter whether they can get a nuclear warhead onto a missile
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:43 AM
Mar 2017

They will have no problem launching a chemical weapon payload.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
3. Two unsaid words
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:13 AM
Mar 2017

Russia and China.
There might be more to Trump's cuddling with
Russia than golden showers and money laundering.
Commander Orange McFuckface is just itching
to play global thermonuclear war.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. Screamed at TV when I saw his statement this morning. WTH is this no-nothing
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 09:49 AM
Mar 2017

oil exec discussing anything remotely military in nature?

Trump is bad enough but surrounded by people who don't know what they don't know and a willing GOP congress - it's all a horrendous perfect storm.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. Exactly!
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:38 PM
Mar 2017

But Hillary was the war-monger. FFS, I'm going to need something a little stronger than tea tonight.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
18. Rexxon was to tired for further negotiations.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:22 PM
Mar 2017


How many miles did HRC travel as Secratary of State? This cabal is full of softies.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
22. Trump is stupid enough to think that radiation fallout won't ever reach Mara-Lago.
Fri Mar 17, 2017, 03:49 PM
Mar 2017

Especially if he nukes North Korea. Which he seems to be itching to do.

It would seal the deal that he's the most powerful man in history. Until humanity is wiped out by radioactivity.

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