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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo distract myself from fretting about trump*, I'm watching a show on Charles Manson
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,280 posts)Siwsan
(26,177 posts)Health and Human Services, perhaps??
bellmartin
(218 posts)global1
(25,168 posts)Siwsan
(26,177 posts)MFM008
(19,776 posts)there it is....
I think Manson has more "character".
Mendocino
(7,431 posts)in the eye achieves the same result. YMMV
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Definitely cruel and unusual punishment.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)Siwsan
(26,177 posts)Find those lacking and fill the voids with lies.
The interviews with the women are very enlightening.
JenniferJuniper
(4,496 posts)And Charlie don't surf but Trump is the leader of the free world.
Food for thought, mobsters.
radical noodle
(7,990 posts)not so for trump.
58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)Turds new reality show, Cell block "C".
dalton99a
(81,068 posts)58Sunliner
(4,339 posts)chowder66
(9,011 posts)And I think they are cut from the same cloth. I decided that I hated Manson about 10 months ago.
He's a weasel of a man (no offense to weasels), selfish and deranged... yet able to exude enough weird charm over others.
It creeps me the f*#k out.
That's Trump too.
Now that I think about it I could make it three and add David Miscavige (lol - auto-correct wants to correct it to Miscarriage... how appropriate!). He's the leader of Scientology.
Siwsan
(26,177 posts)Listening to the women who were his followers is very interesting.
chowder66
(9,011 posts)been around and I learned more after watching Aquarius and decided it was time. Yuk.
What a loathsome man.
I don't think he's nuts either. I believe they each have personas that they hide behind. Some trauma or insufficiency causes them to create one to deflect anything that goes against what they want to hear or need to hear. They end up locked into said persona as a shield of protection.
If that persona drops, they are exposed and deflated to wet puddles under the heels of the world.
Siwsan
(26,177 posts)We had recently been camping in the Los Angeles area, shortly before they happened.
I have read and re-read 'Helter Skelter' so many times.
chowder66
(9,011 posts)but growing up there was always something in the news or someone talking about it.
Helter Skelter was blaring on the radio all the time and my older brothers told me about Manson when I asked what that meant.
I'm not sure I could get through that book without setting it on fire.
Degrees of separation: I live in Hollywood, down the street from the Scientology Celebrity Center. Up the road from that is Los Feliz and unfortunately, I ran into Trump in an office building years back. I'm giving myself the eebie jeebies! Lol.
Siwsan
(26,177 posts)My brother lived in Glendale and worked at 20th Century Fox movie studio as a researcher. When ever I came out to visit, which was often, we would tour around the whole town.
He is back here in Michigan, now. I sure do miss my west coast visits!
chowder66
(9,011 posts)They have built up Hollywood and it's a nightmare driving two blocks let alone more than that.
I think it was my mom's grandparents that lived in Grand Rapids decades ago. She loved Michigan.
I might watch the special on Manson tonight....but then again I would like to sleep so maybe not.
Mendocino
(7,431 posts)highs like Apollo 11, Easy Rider and Woodstock, lows like Nixon, Altamont, and Chappaquiddick.
It had a major influence on my life, that's for sure.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)I arrived in-country as an Army Infantry 1st Lt. in Spring '69 and the Army sent my little brother in the Fall. (Our concurrent service there was only possible because he volunteered to come and I volunteered to stay.)
It was tough for us, but I wonder if Mom didn't have the worst of it. Having both of us there, then getting the telegrams when I was seriously wounded and then evacuated from Vietnam--and her youngest still had 9 months more to serve there...
Mendocino
(7,431 posts)heavily with LSD, while he abstained from acid but took large amounts of speed and coke to keep his "endurance" up.
Siwsan
(26,177 posts)He's been 'inside' far longer than he was ever free. It is hard to see how he could have turn out much different.
H2O Man
(73,324 posts)the two have never appeared in public together.
Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)Certainly not good for escapism entertainment. I'd recommend Star Trek: TNG or something like that... more optimistic by far.
Far, far removed from the depressing reality of today.
In fact I might go watch some myself, lol