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MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 10:50 AM Mar 2017

The Irony of a Man Who Never Pays What He Owes Saying

that NATO members need to pay up is strikingly clear. Trump routinely forces vendors who contract with him to accept less than the agreed amount or refuses to pay them altogether. Now, he misunderstands the financial structure of NATO and insists that members have not been paying what they are required to pay.

We have an unscrupulous, dishonest man as our President, and it is obvious to the entire world. He is diminishing the regard other nations have for the United States on a daily basis.

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The Irony of a Man Who Never Pays What He Owes Saying (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2017 OP
Purposefully destroying our alliances. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #1
Yes, he is. And we need to keep bringing that up. MineralMan Mar 2017 #2
Dead beat. Tax cheat. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #9
yes, he's treasonous and just so grotesquely offensive Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #4
And all the repug congresscritters who refuse to oppose him are treasonous, too. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #8
I agree, but money has a lot of sway.. Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #21
Yeah. This technique is being considered by #45 as NCjack Mar 2017 #5
Well, look what he's used to doing. Welching on his promises and commitments, short-sheeting calimary Mar 2017 #7
I know he's stupid, but he doesn't really think that he can do that with the national debt Mc Mike Mar 2017 #11
But he does think that. MineralMan Mar 2017 #13
I think his ignorance and false beliefs are just a lying excuse from big money repugs. Mc Mike Mar 2017 #20
He is a pure psychopath, who believes everything he says.. . he would pass a polygraph with secondwind Mar 2017 #3
I've long ascribed to the theory that Repubs... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #6
it's crazy NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #10
I'm sure you're correct. He has no idea how much MineralMan Mar 2017 #14
He doesn't even know how our own government works UltravioletDingo Mar 2017 #23
Yep, he's doing exactly as his master PUtin demands. lark Mar 2017 #12
He and Putin are much the same, but Putin is far smarter MineralMan Mar 2017 #15
Exactly! lark Mar 2017 #18
Don the Groper is unraveling all that President BHO did to repair NoMoreRepugs Mar 2017 #16
I'm at a loss to know what to do with this horrible situation. MineralMan Mar 2017 #17
It's an irony lost on far too many Americans unfortunately. KPN Mar 2017 #19
and to say it to Merkel, when NATO in part is to prevent a build up of arms in any European country. Hamlette Mar 2017 #22
Kick Hekate Mar 2017 #24

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
1. Purposefully destroying our alliances.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:20 PM
Mar 2017

And I caught that b.s. critique he used against NATO during the campaign, about how he 'doesn't like people not paying what they owe', when he's the proudest, most blatant deadbeat in all of his own business practices.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
8. And all the repug congresscritters who refuse to oppose him are treasonous, too.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:40 PM
Mar 2017

Every international business operating in those repug swines' jurisdictions should stomp those elected traitors, financially. Not follow through on projected expansions, threaten to pull their business out, do whatever they can to aid the traitors' political opposition.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. Yeah. This technique is being considered by #45 as
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:27 PM
Mar 2017

the solution to our National debt. We just refuse to pay it. Looks like #45 doesn't like being on the losing end of a bad deal.

calimary

(81,220 posts)
7. Well, look what he's used to doing. Welching on his promises and commitments, short-sheeting
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:36 PM
Mar 2017

his contractors and subcontractors, filing for bankruptcy and bailing on his debts.

Refuse to pay it. He has a pattern of doing that. He has a long and well-documented track record of doing that, leaving lots of victims and collateral damage behind while he skates away untouched and unaffected by some fancy accounting trickery and public relations witch-doctoring. Sounds like that thing about past being prologue.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
11. I know he's stupid, but he doesn't really think that he can do that with the national debt
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

and it will be as 'successful' as his business dealings.

The big money repugs that put him in power know that he'll throw the economy into a depression, if he defaults on the debt. But repugs always benefit from a depression.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
20. I think his ignorance and false beliefs are just a lying excuse from big money repugs.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:29 PM
Mar 2017

I agree that he's stupid and ignorant, but he knows his place.

His only interest, that he actively works on, openly and all the time, is what he can personally financially grift and siphon off, what cozy business entanglements he can preserve and enlarge.

The big money power people in the repug right wing kept the entire platform intact, exactly as it was, except for Ukraine aid. The cabinet secretary appointments are the choices of people acceptable to the repug establishment, instead of drumpf loyalists and cronies, almost universally. Drumpf 'yessirs' and 'no sirs' Mercer, his biggest financial backer, that's shown by the continued prominent involvement of Mercer flunkies Bannon and Conway. The party apparatus still has Priebus and Spicer in place, and Pence was an accomodation made by dRumpf to repug power people, in order to build a 'winning' combination. His budget is the exact same as Raygun's and li'l bush's, the exact same policy which includes zero of the nods to dirtball 'populism' that he made to his teabag rubes on the campaign trail. He'll sign any typical bircher Ayn Rand repug initiative that Ryan and McConnell put in front of him to sign.

He doesn't care about economic policy, he'll do what the repug financial masters want him to do, as long as he can make a heap of money for his failed bankrupt compromised money hemorrhaging financial 'empire'. He'll play ball and do what the right wing big money financial people in the repug party want.

Exactly like Hitler did. The all powerful dictator who always did exactly what Krupp, Farben, Thyssen, Schacht, and the Ruhr coal combine owners wanted. He 'had all the power', and never made a move that didn't benefit them, or that discommoded them in even the slightest way.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
3. He is a pure psychopath, who believes everything he says.. . he would pass a polygraph with
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

flying colors...

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
6. I've long ascribed to the theory that Repubs...
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:36 PM
Mar 2017

have to have their irony detectors disabled before they can try to do their jobs.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. it's crazy
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 12:43 PM
Mar 2017

he probably has no clue how NATO or the UN really work - just repeating RW gossip that we pay too much for both.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
14. I'm sure you're correct. He has no idea how much
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:12 PM
Mar 2017

the US benefits from NATO, the UN and other organizations we belong to and support. He doesn't care, either.

UltravioletDingo

(65 posts)
23. He doesn't even know how our own government works
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 02:33 PM
Mar 2017

And he's ignorant of his complete ignorance on almost any topic

lark

(23,094 posts)
12. Yep, he's doing exactly as his master PUtin demands.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:09 PM
Mar 2017

Everything he does, and I do mean every single little thing is to benefit him personally and to hurt us domestically and internationally so Russia can take over as the dominant country in the world. Those are the only things he actually cares about, the rest is just destractions so we're looking the wrong way why he sneakily destroys our constitution and way of life.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
15. He and Putin are much the same, but Putin is far smarter
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:13 PM
Mar 2017

than Trump. That means that he can use Trump's ego as a tool, without Trump even realizing it. That is a very dangerous situation for all of us.

lark

(23,094 posts)
18. Exactly!
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:22 PM
Mar 2017

drumpf is so stupid, all you have to do is flatter him and you can get him to do anything. Offer him bribes, like Russian oligarchs buying him properties at vastly inflated prices to launder their money, and he'll do anything Pootie says. Ignorant, greedy assface would kill our country for this and is in the process of doing just that.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,415 posts)
16. Don the Groper is unraveling all that President BHO did to repair
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:20 PM
Mar 2017

the countries standing in the world after 8 years of carnage due to Cheney and Shrub in less than 90 days - where will we be 2 or more years from now if this buffoon and his minions are allowed to run free?

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
17. I'm at a loss to know what to do with this horrible situation.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:21 PM
Mar 2017

I can only hope that it resolves itself before too much time passes.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
19. It's an irony lost on far too many Americans unfortunately.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:25 PM
Mar 2017

If and when they finally wake up, we will at least be able to say "No shit Sherlock!"

Hamlette

(15,411 posts)
22. and to say it to Merkel, when NATO in part is to prevent a build up of arms in any European country.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 01:45 PM
Mar 2017

after Germany built such a big military under Hitler.

Merkel should say "We'll keep the full 1.2% we send NATO and we'll just bring back Krups Arms and build our own defense (or offense?) structure. Would that make you happy?

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