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matt819

(10,749 posts)
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 02:46 PM Mar 2017

Obituary

Whether it's tomorrow or ten years from now - can you just imagine the obituary of der drumpfenfuhrer? I just hope that the MSM has the balls to tell it like it is. No platitudes or hagiography. Forty years or more of corruption, bribery, money laundering, illicit connections, thousands of lawsuits, etc.

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madamesilverspurs

(15,800 posts)
5. Well, he's getting ready.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 03:09 PM
Mar 2017

There was a story just a few days ago about his plan to put a family mausoleum in the middle of his favorite golf course in New Jersey. Whacked out creepitude on steroids.


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CTyankee

(63,899 posts)
8. Maybe they could autopsy his brain to see what his disorder is and it would help find a cure...
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

Just sayin'.

Solly Mack

(90,761 posts)
10. I have always thought the truth was a better eulogy for politicians and the like.
Sat Mar 18, 2017, 05:54 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not talking about listing every single grievance, but don't call a bad person a good person. Especially when how they lived and treated others was known by all.

Death neither absolves nor mitigates.

There's nothing polite about torture, for example. Nor is there anything polite about funding cuts that cause harm to already vulnerable people. Nothing polite about sexual assault. Nothing polite about destroying lives.

So why be polite when talking of those who have caused so much damage, whether in life or death?

You're not sparing anyone by lying.

But you are being dismissive of their victims when you do lie.

I know some people believe it's about what it says about the individual to speak ill of the dead, regardless of how horrible they were in life. I'm OK with that. Because to my thinking, and applying only to me, I'd be a hypocrite if I extended any politeness in death that I wouldn't extend in life.

I can't think of anything polite to say about Trump's children, for example. Why would I change my opinion once their father died?

I'm going to speak the ugly truth about Trump in life but suddenly stop once he dies? I think not.

Death doesn't cleanse. It doesn't erase. The slate is not wiped clean.

Their death means they can't hurt anyone anymore. That's not an unhappy thought. Some might even say it was cause to celebrate.

While it is true that family members of the horrible person might see their departed through different eyes, evidence of the damage caused by the departed should not be denied. I see no benefits in pretending otherwise.

I owe the victims created by the actions of the departed but I do not owe the departed. And what I owe the victims is to not deny what happened to them by pretending the departed was anything but the person who caused the harm.


"Polite society" merely demands I don't crash the funeral and harass the mourners. It does not require that I stop telling the truth about someone who tortured, or who caused death by gutting life-saving programs or encouraging hate.


But that's only how I see things. I don't expect others to follow suit. We are all different.


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