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During a Sunday interview, Wallace said that 24 million fewer Americans overall would have insurance under the Ryan plan in 10 years, according to the Congressional Budget Office (CBO).
You said that part of that is that this is what freedom looks like, Wallace recalled. But is the major decrease in the number of people according to the CBO who will have health insurance, is it freedom or is it that some people will no longer be able to afford health insurance under your plan?
Wallace noted a CBO estimate which said that a 64 year old making less than $27,000 a year will pay $14,600 a year for health insurance instead of the $1,700 they pay now under President Barack Obamas law.
What theyre saying is that this isnt freedom, this isnt people voluntarily deciding not to have health insurance, Wallace remarked. Its that your plan makes it unaffordable for people.
OldHippieChick
(2,434 posts)the repukes go to sell their snake oil?
n2doc
(47,953 posts)Plenty of salesmen to go around.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Turbineguy
(37,313 posts)By starting WWIII.
mzteaze
(448 posts)It's really too bad that we won't be able to see that moment when, as he reaches a certain age in life, he looks up and realize that HE is the senior that everyone around him wants to put to pasture.
I truly doubt he will find glee in that moment like he had now whether he had money or not. Money can only comfort and insulate you but it can't stop the aging process at all.
shraby
(21,946 posts)rest of his miserable life.
dchill
(38,465 posts)A hemorrhoid is a warning signal that something is wrong, even to a rabid Republican!
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)In that situation, no apologies.
dchill
(38,465 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I hate him as much as I hate Trump. He is lying through his teeth. He knows his plan is a death sentence for most people and yet he sits there and defends it.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)is a disgrace. He will not show up for town halls in his own district. Once the gerrymandered districts in Wis. are destroyed, he is GONE. Asshole of the worst kind. His bank account is filled to the brim with $$$ from lobyists, he will never have to wonder where his next meal is coming from.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)That is what I want to know.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)flow into Wisconsin. That is what has kept little Scotty Walker in office for too long. The Koch brothers own the gop in Wisconsin. The gerrymandered districts have been ruled unconstitutional by the courts, so maybe that can be taken care of in time for the next election. Ryan seems to think he is untouchable, but then so did his BFF Eric Cantor, and the voters got him out. I would love to see Lyin' Ryan lose his re-election.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Ryan has to go!
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)I'm living in it!
It is suburban and rural and cuts out metro areas like the county seat of Waukesha, which has a considerable Hispanic population, and Milwaukee. It includes his home town of Janesville, and Racine and Kenosha, and the Milwaukee suburb of West Allis, which is known to be blue collar. Gwen Moore has Milwaukee.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisconsin's_congressional_districts
milestogo
(16,829 posts)But most of Ryan's district is not wealthy. Must be a lot of Catholics.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)BTW, I am very sorry for the fact that you live in his district.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)They are in the city of Waukesha mostly, and that is another district.
And thanks for the condolences. Before this redistricting, I was in Sensenbrenner's! Very disheartening. We are looking to move to Minnesota in a year or so!
Phoenix61
(17,000 posts)If you knew it was a problem why is it there in the first place? Oh, yeah, you thought you could push it through exactly the way it is written. Did they use to offer major medical plans? Yes, and they were great if you could cover basic medical care but they did not encourage preventive care, which we all know, prevents a lot of major medical incidents. They also didn't cover medication which if you got a chronic condition, like diabetes, would be crippling.
What a piss poor excuse for a human being.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)healthcare as the rest of us.
I bet she'd do it.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Someone has one already started. His father died because of no insurance. He had lots of signatures last time I checked. Sorry, I forget the name. I signed a few days ago.
Squinch
(50,935 posts)not fooled
(5,801 posts)Please stop reelecting this asshole.
Thank you,
America
simplesimon
(13 posts)Walking hemmorhoid says it all.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)Is no one knows what's going to happen
in 2 years, much less 10.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)Texin
(2,594 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Ryan and the republican party with Trumpcare or ISIS?
The answer is too obvious, no?
kimbutgar
(21,111 posts)I liked to smack the $hit out of that jerk.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)he looks like someone beat you to it, knocked out all his teeth.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I've always tried not to hate anyone, but I've never, ever hated so many people as I have since the Orange Monster took office. The fact that Ryan obviously LOVES the fact that seniors will be pushed out of the health care market makes him worse than a hemorrhoid. More like a cancer. Like cancer would, he makes me sick.
Texin
(2,594 posts)This guy is a walking, talking, smirking, smug "elitist" asshat - and I put that word in quotes because he's an intellectual fraud who only thinks he's one. His so-called higher education is from a secondary tier (if that) college and the only thing he apparently pored over during his studies was the so-called philosophical economics (of a fucking novelist for fuck's sake) of the poisoned minded, mean spirited fraudster of the first magnitude, Ayn Rand, (and I'd put my last dollar on him having read only one of her novels at that!).
He and Bannon and their slimy ilk want the elderly and ill to die from disease and old age in the meanest circumstances possible and they relish the thought that the children and families of their intended victims will to have watch it helplessly, because they too are going to be so economically challenged as to not be able to contribute to their loved ones beyond the most meager of their wherewithal, if at that. The rest of us, any and all who cannot find decent paying jobs - or any jobs beyond filling the demand left because of the vacuum created because of deported fieldworkers and domestic employees - will be to ship them off to the military to use as cannon fodder in their ginned up Daddy Warbucks foreign disasters, the first of which will apparently be North Korea. Those not fit to serve in combat will be sent to civilian work gangs, but unlike the New Deal's era workforce, they will do so without pay or benefits beyond concentration camp-like barracks for the duration of the combat operations - which, of course, will be ongoing forever until these reptiles are eliminated by attrition or a thermonuclear detonation, which for this person, probably can't come soon enough because the outlook is so damn grim and getting more so by the second.
The thing that really astonishes me is, they want people to die. Flying Spaghetti Monster knows why, but it's obvious. That's why asking them "don't you know people will die?" doesn't work. It's part of their agenda. Yes, of course it's stupid, and they don't realize it will be devastating for everyone, including, ultimately, them. When the economy tanks and they lose everything, they'll wonder why (and of course blame everyone else).
I hate them.
calimary
(81,194 posts)As a mother, I'm compelled to suspect that back when he was a little boy, somebody - somewhere - said something to him along the lines of "oh, you're giving me those Big Blue Eyes..." or "ohhhhhh there're those Big Blue Eyes again..." or "don't you look at me with those Big Blue Eyes!" or "honey, you look at me with those Big Blue Eyes and I'm just putty in your hands..."
SOMEWHERE along the line, he got that. From some teacher, or some besotted aunt, or his mom, or perhaps a bit later in life, some girl he wanted to take into the bushes and make out with. I say this after watching his body language and his different physical as well as verbal techniques for communication and ESPECIALLY persuasion. I could not help noticing this. It smacked me in the face like a well-aimed cream pie.
I also notice that he regularly gives you that Big Blue Eyes treatment with his chin sorta tucked in so he's looking up at you in a disarming pseudo-innocent way. So you can see a lot of the whites of his eyes, surrounding and especially underneath that big baby blue iris. A kind of "awwww... little ol' ME?????" stance. Btw - Princess Diana did that, too. A LOT. To charm, disarm, and touch your sense of empathy and maybe even a wish to protect. I worked with someone who did that. That was her regular schtick, too. Flashed those Big Blue Eyes and used them to manipulate. The whole "awwwwww shucks, little ol' ME? I wouldn't hurt a FLEA!" She did this every time she wanted to disarm, deflect, throw you off, make you think she was a sweet, genuine, harmless, and totally unconniving neutral party. When she was anything but. She was the type who liked cuddling up to people on a level above you in the food chain, to get you fired because she wanted your job.
I see that same crap in Paul Ryan's body language. ALL THE FREAKIN' TIME. Watch for it. And don't be taken in by it. Just know it's coming and that it's schtick. He'll look right into the camera (into your face) and flat-out LIE to you with those cutie-pie pseudo-innocent Big Blue Eyes. It's a device, a strategy, a subtle unspoken psy-ops manipulation. And you won't be fooled.
Texin
(2,594 posts)I'm talking about both his role as Speaker and as an elected representative. He is totally cringe-worthy. How can he talk this gloatingly and believe that's he's not going to face some sort of backlash in future, especially if this thing passes? These videos of his interviews are going to be played back ad infinitum in his own damn reelection in a couple of years and they'll be used by every Democrat across the spectrum, and from AARP and the AMA, and others to remind Americans over and over just who was the so-called mastermind behind this cruel whack on a significant number Americans (and that number will only be growing because the devastating impact on healthcare costs will rise astronomically because of it). There will not be one family who won't feel the impact of this. Not one. Because even when you're as rich as one of the Kochs, the soon-to-be obscene cost of healthcare is going to impact everyone, even them.
BlueMTexpat
(15,366 posts)of this POS!