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Cattledog

(5,914 posts)
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:29 AM Mar 2017

Trump voters in South Georgia come to terms with GOP health plan.

http://www.myajc.com/news/breaking-news/trump-voters-south-georgia-come-terms-with-gop-health-plan/YGhaSvEz7yeZowZQZhYYLM/

Kenneth Peek is among many Trump supporters in South Georgia coming to terms with the new GOP proposal, called the American Health Care Act, and learning they could be worse off.

Make no mistake, many people here still love Trump. They remain hopeful he will bring about reforms that reduce health care costs, open up competition and help rural areas like theirs.

Much of that support is driven by widespread disdain for Obamacare. Many see it as an entitlement that often benefits people not willing to pull their own weight.

Worse, they resent Obamacare’s mandate that people buy health insurance, seeing it as a directive at home in a repressive regime, not a democracy. Even some with Obamacare insurance have complained their premiums have grown by double-digits in recent years and deductibles are so high that their coverage is basically worthless.

Right now, Peek is paying $281 a month for his health policy through Obamacare. That’s $3,372 a year. He’s receiving $11,172 in government tax credits. (His wife, Debra, is on disability.)

Under the proposed new plan, his tax credit would shrink to about $4,000, a drop of $7,172 or 64 percent.

The tax credits are designed to help people who don’t get coverage through an employer buy individual insurance. Both Obamacare and the GOP plan offer them but in very different ways.

The Obamacare credits are based on income, so people who make less benefit more. Under the GOP plan, people would receive credits based mostly on their age, not their income. So a 40-year-old making $30,000 and a person the same age making $50,000 would receive the same flat sum of $3,000.

Peek, for his part, is disappointed, and concerned he might not be able to afford health insurance.

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Trump voters in South Georgia come to terms with GOP health plan. (Original Post) Cattledog Mar 2017 OP
If only the media would note the Obamacare lies sharedvalues Mar 2017 #1
Watch 'em scream if/when "Obamacare" is repealed. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #5
Peek is a fucking Rebel moron! NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #2
Yet Peek and the other white wing Trump supporters would vote for him again. Hoyt Mar 2017 #3
Absolutely. dalton99a Mar 2017 #10
Idiots will be idiots. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #4
when people like this start dying due trumpcare not being affordable, they may change beachbum bob Mar 2017 #6
white trump supporters always beleive non-whites are gaming the system even though beachbum bob Mar 2017 #7
Yep! Vinnie From Indy Mar 2017 #8
This is the biggest problem facing our country. It's racism, pure and simple. yardwork Mar 2017 #16
I would add...Making racism accepted... Never thought I see this beachbum bob Mar 2017 #19
"People here still love Trump. They remain hopeful" dalton99a Mar 2017 #9
Buddy Carter congressman (Politiburo member) NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #11
Buddy: "But they'll have so many more choices" OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #17
Bummer. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #12
As far as their "God Emperor" is concerned, Ken and Debra are useless eaters n2doc Mar 2017 #13
He'll probably die young and he'll never vote Republican again. (Every cloud has a silver lining.) NurseJackie Mar 2017 #14
He will love learning he'll pay surcharge when Justice Mar 2017 #15
Peek needs to peek in a mirror. If he cannot afford Hortensis Mar 2017 #18
Two Comments Involving Race and WTF! TheOther95Percent Mar 2017 #20

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
1. If only the media would note the Obamacare lies
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:33 AM
Mar 2017

But the media is too busy repeating Trump's tweets rather than discussing real issues.

Infotainment is going to bring down America. Thanks, Zucker and Moonves.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
5. Watch 'em scream if/when "Obamacare" is repealed.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

They see anything "Obama" as the reverse of white supremacy, with a black man at the top of the heap. It drives them crazy. But Stupid never dies. They'll likely blame Obama for big increases in health care insurance premiums AFTER it's repealed. But that's nothing new. Trumpy and the GOP propaganda machine has conditioned them to blame Obama for everything they don't like.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
2. Peek is a fucking Rebel moron!
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:35 AM
Mar 2017

waive that confederate flag high & proud you rebel mother fucker. We all have to pay for your fucking stupidity from the likes of you deplorable scum son.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
6. when people like this start dying due trumpcare not being affordable, they may change
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:41 AM
Mar 2017

but don't hold your breath until then

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
7. white trump supporters always beleive non-whites are gaming the system even though
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 11:51 AM
Mar 2017

these same trump supporters are doing the same....to them an entitlement is something they "earn" because they are white and its a handout to everyone else who is not white.....when the govt checks and support ends, these trump people will be in shock...as they are white people and they are entitled to it...

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
16. This is the biggest problem facing our country. It's racism, pure and simple.
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

Decades of right wing lies have convinced millions of white people that "other people" are stealing their money.

This is why we can't have nice things.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
11. Buddy Carter congressman (Politiburo member)
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:22 PM
Mar 2017

Just saw the Confederate piece of shit representing South Georgia on AM Joy. What a piece of work!

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
17. Buddy: "But they'll have so many more choices"
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017

Joy: "What good does that do them if they can't afford any of the choices?"

Buddy: "They'll get a tax credit."

Joy: "If they haven't been able to afford any insurance, how will they get a credit?"

Buddy: "They'll have so many more choices"

Etc., etc., ad nauseum

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
13. As far as their "God Emperor" is concerned, Ken and Debra are useless eaters
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

And the sooner they die, after giving the HC industry all of their remaining assets, the better. I doubt that they will realize this before it happens, however, the nice voice on the radio will keep telling them how great Ryan's and Donnie's plan is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. Peek needs to peek in a mirror. If he cannot afford
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 12:37 PM
Mar 2017

his own health insurance, he is by definition one of the sponges on society his leaders deplore. He should not be mislead by the color of his skin or the fact that he does not live in a city, his weight that he's not carrying is what they mean to get off the backs of those who are.

TheOther95Percent

(1,035 posts)
20. Two Comments Involving Race and WTF!
Sun Mar 19, 2017, 05:37 PM
Mar 2017

Much of that support is driven by widespread disdain for Obamacare. Many see it as an entitlement that often benefits people not willing to pull their own weight.


Two comments here. First, this disdain for Obamacare is driven by the Republican mantra that all of your hard earned tax dollars are going to support lazy slobs. It's not just lazy slobs though. Dig deeper here and there would be comments about black and brown people. Second, as a white male this man is concerned that his government benefit under the CACA plan would drop 64 percent. Uh, if you need that much assistance to pay for your own healthcare, why the fuck are you looking down on anyone else?
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