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(21,946 posts)still_one
(92,122 posts)cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)The acting is amazing. Judy Garland! Spencer Tracy.
Excellent history lesson. And the premise: things are not black and white even regarding Germany in the 1930s!
still_one
(92,122 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Hamlette
(15,411 posts)on netflix. Similar trials in Japan after the war with fascinating consequences. Great program, should be seen by anyone interested in politics or the law.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)Hamlette
(15,411 posts)it was an interesting legal issue: some of the crimes were based on new laws and the acts had not been "crimes" when committed. Some jurists in Tokyo did not want to convict based on laws that made it criminal conduct only after the war but some jurists were concerned about the precedent of Nuremberg. We had convicted some of the Nuremberg defendants of those crimes.
The movie is not so much about the witnesses and the trial per so bur rather the deliberations of several judges each one from a different country. And like all hard legal questions, you could see both sides. If the Tokyo judges said "you can't convict someone of a crime that was not a crime when they committed the act" did it not signal to the world that the Nuremberg trials had been bunk, or political or not legally sound?
Although I liked the personalities on the side of don't convict for those crimes, I'm not sure how I would have voted because of Nuremberg. A movie (actually a mini series with 4 episodes if I remember correctly) I think about often.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,841 posts)Powerful. It's important to know that the film footage shown in that movie of the death camps was probably the very first time such scenes were seen in this country. It was completely shocking, because the true reality of the awfulness of the camps had been withheld from Americans up to this point.
After this, much such footage was seen, but trust me, it was beyond shocking in 1961.
For you younger folks, the movie might seem a little bit slow, but that's because of when it was made. Please stick with it, because it's well worth it.
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)Shocking. I had to leave and go hang over the toilet for a few minutes.
Thanks for the historical insights.
mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)Mendocino
(7,486 posts)to be the most compelling. Portraying a Nazi, against type for him, put an ambiguity into the entire film that left audiences staring into an abyss about their own psyches.
oasis
(49,370 posts)The versatile actor, Burt Lancaster was magnificent. I wouldn't mind taking the time to see it again.
burrowowl
(17,638 posts)Yupster
(14,308 posts)Mostly covered Herman Goering's time at Nuremburg until his suicide.
The whole concept of war trials is an interesting one.
For example, Field Marshall von Manstein was found guilty at Nuremburg for using scorched earth tactics while he was retreating behind the Dnieper River in Russia. The Russians voted guilty. Meanwhile the Russians were considered brilliant for using scorched earth tactics while they retreated from the Dnieper River three years earlier.
Like the peasants cared which army burnt their homes and killed their livestock.
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)The local population always gets the worst of it, while the elite continue in their lives..usually..
Except for revolutions - French, Russian.