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stopbush

(24,396 posts)
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:23 PM Mar 2017

America needs an annulment of the tRump "presidency"

When it comes to marriage, annulment differs from a divorce. If granted, an annulment is retroactive. Legally, the marriage is considered to have never happened.

That's what we need when it comes to tRump: an annulment. A ruling that would mean that the name tRump and the title of president were never linked in any way.

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America needs an annulment of the tRump "presidency" (Original Post) stopbush Mar 2017 OP
Totally agree gopiscrap Mar 2017 #1
there was one it was on november 8th but the dems decided to shoot themselves in the foot Ohioblue22 Mar 2017 #2
No such thing. longship Mar 2017 #3
I know what The Constitution says. stopbush Mar 2017 #4
Then why do you post about it? longship Mar 2017 #5
Both tRump and Pence must be impeached TOGETHER. Neither of them madinmaryland Mar 2017 #6
That would be very, very difficult. longship Mar 2017 #7
I agree. Democrats don't want Pence in either. It may come down to if tRump madinmaryland Mar 2017 #9
We are definitely off the playing field now. longship Mar 2017 #10
This so completely different than Watergate... madinmaryland Mar 2017 #11
There's been nothing like it. longship Mar 2017 #13
Undoing everything he signed. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #8
America needs laws that explicitly deal with removing a corrupt crazy man from the presidency. milestogo Mar 2017 #12
 

Ohioblue22

(1,430 posts)
2. there was one it was on november 8th but the dems decided to shoot themselves in the foot
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:26 PM
Mar 2017

again. you have another window in november 2018. it's the dems to lose

longship

(40,416 posts)
3. No such thing.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:48 PM
Mar 2017

There are no do-overs or Mulligans for our presidential elections.

All we have is impeachment in the House and trial in the US Senate, or the 25th amendment. Either way, VEEP Pence becomes president. (BTW, he's a theocrat.)

In other words, we're kind of screwed. We need to all vote.

Tired of this rubbish! Read your US Constitution.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
4. I know what The Constitution says.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

And I know there's no such thing on this level.

Lighten up, Francis.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
6. Both tRump and Pence must be impeached TOGETHER. Neither of them
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:46 PM
Mar 2017

can allowed to either be or become POTUS. I forgot to state that they should both be convicted, also.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. That would be very, very difficult.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 07:58 PM
Mar 2017

We must all admit that as undeniable.

I don't see any rational way out of this. We need congress in Democratic Party hands. That makes it 2019 at the earliest.

Remember, under a Democratic congress it took over two years to get Nixon out of the White House.

Unless Drumpf goes considerably more barking mad then he already is, there is likely no easy fix here. And there's near zero chance that we wouldn't get Pence as POTUS as a result. The problem is whether anybody would be alive after Drumpf falls down.

And Pence is a fucking theocrat!!!!

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
9. I agree. Democrats don't want Pence in either. It may come down to if tRump
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 08:08 PM
Mar 2017

has gone batshit crazy and it appears that Pence is even tangentially involved, there will be deals made to end this clusterfuck. Who knows. The thing is, the Repubicans will be relying on nearly 20 Democratic Senators to vote to convict. There will have to be deals made.

Otherwise, then it will just have to wait until 2019, when the Repubicans will get slaughtered in the mid-terms. Even then, if both houses roll over to the Democrats, I doubt they would get 67 votes in the Senate to convict.

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
11. This so completely different than Watergate...
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:40 PM
Mar 2017

These guys and the entire misadministation are so deeply involved in this. With Watergate, Gerald Ford was not involved. Pence is just as involved as tRump.

This is completely unprecedented (or is it unpresidented)?



Constitutional Crisis.

longship

(40,416 posts)
13. There's been nothing like it.
Mon Mar 20, 2017, 09:58 PM
Mar 2017

It is indeed a constitutional crisis of the likes we have never seen.

Remember John Chancellor on the Saturday Night Massacre?


And that was an extraordinary day in US history.

But there are no annulments for presidential elections in the US Constitution, in spite of what some people apparently think.
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