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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAfter Trump bullies lawmakers on Trumpcare, "Mr. Dealmaker" loses three more votes.
This morning, Donald Trump called together a bunch of GOP representatives in closed session to bully them into supporting Trumpcare when it comes up for a vote on Thursday. He started out on a lighthearted note, threatening the jobs of those who opposed him, saying anybody who voted No would be primaried. And just so everybody got the point, then it got personal:
And if the presidents threat of a primary challenge in the 2018 mid-term elections wasnt enough to nudge defiant Republicans into compliance, Trump turned it up a notch, publicly confronting the bills main opposition leader, Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., with a bit of presidential intimidation.
After asking Meadows to stand up at the meeting, President Trump said, Im counting on you to vote for the bill, according to Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C., who was there. President Trump later told Meadows: Im gonna come after you big time, if the legislation falters.
Of course, the alleged author of The Art of the Deal, we have been told by none other that Trump Himself, is the worlds greatest dealmaker. So what was the result of this all-stick-no-carrot approach?
According to the whip-count on The Hill, today three more GOP lawmakers switched from Leaning No to Firm No.
http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/21/1645876/-After-Trump-bullies-lawmakers-on-Trumpcare-Mr-Dealmaker-loses-three-more-votes
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)He hasn't figured out that there are three equal branches of government, and that trying to strong-arm either of the other branches - congress or the courts - is not likely to make them acquiesce to him. More likely, they'll resist even harder in order to protect their Constitutional turf.
Hekate
(90,565 posts)...until he bellows "You're fired!" at a Senator or Representative.
littlemissmartypants
(22,599 posts)Perfect Hekate!
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)n/t.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)Congress is known for gossip and leaks. With no NDAs signed they become an unwieldy bunch.
3catwoman3
(23,951 posts)Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)You're a regular LBJ.
mercuryblues
(14,525 posts)Those threats and behavior will do? Push those republicans into voting for an independent investigation and a yes on an impeachment
vote.
benedict donald is under the impression he is the boss and can bully everyone into doing as he says. Trump claims he will get even with a lot of people. When push comes to shove he caves. He is a weak leader and chaotic they are only now realizing that.
NYC Liberal
(20,135 posts)He has zero political capital and he's about to be snapped out of his delusions. It took Bush until his second term to be this toxic, so that's really saying something.
Kaleva
(36,259 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,766 posts)I know a lot of people here don't like LBJ, but I rate him really high on the list of great presidents.
Yes, Viet Nam was a mistake. He was a complicated man. But look at what he gave us. Please don't hijack this thread as I can see could happen.
Saboburns
(2,807 posts)Which is why he didnt want the US involved in the first place. You should study his thoughts on the Gulf of Tonkin incident. And how the whole thing would unfold.
Yes Vietnam happened under his watch, but his prescience on Vietnam before it actually happened is rather unnerving.
Heres a good quick take on it.
https://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/05/how-lbj-was-deceived-on-gulf-of-tonkin/
BlueStater
(7,596 posts)His flabby, 70-year-old rich boy frame doesn't inspire intimidation.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)a basement somewhere for further convincing. It would be fitting if they ended up in GITMO. Still, they would get better medical Servic there then what's offered in TrumpDon'tCare.
littlemissmartypants
(22,599 posts)More like, all cheetos no cheese.
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Leith
(7,808 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,158 posts)First, threaten them with his fleet of lawyers. If that doesn't work, promise them anything and then stiff 'em anyway, using that same fleet of lawyers to protect his ample ass.
Well, it's not working, lardbutt. So much for running government like your business, eh?
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Cha
(296,889 posts)him now?
"You can't con people, at least not for long," Trump writes. "You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you can't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on."
From his book.. art of the deal
As seen here..
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017429854#top
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Sure some may be intimidated but a lot of us just dig our heels in when we're threatened.
This was on the local news, not sure about Fox but if they covered the story I expect him to start tweeting about this any minute. No one ever said no to Twitler before, this is going to enrage him.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)No normal person will tolerate that sort of heavy handedness. It is outrageous. This is what haopens when you lose contact with reality and live inside your head.
...pssst, potus....they have medication for this kind of thing....
Cosmocat
(14,559 posts)Politicians are politicians.
But, the hard right types are particularly craven mother fuckers.
What has become clear as this has developed is that they can oppose it from the "right" and by their position square with the most extreme elements of their brain washed 1/3 of the electorate AND ALSO, even though their rational is that it is not horrible enough, if the vote against it, end up being shown in a good light to those who oppose it because it si a horrible piece of legislation.
I saw an interview yesterday with one of these "Freedom Causus" scumbags, and he so bold in being in opposition to 45 because his office had taken 300 or so calls, 294 were against it and 6 were for it ...
NOW, you know 290 were folks like us hammering him to vote against it because it was horrible, and he knows that, but because he is in a safe gerrymander district and that is the bubble he lives in, he assigns it all to his ideology.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]
malaise
(268,724 posts)His ignorance is breath-taking.