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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,766 posts)
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:33 PM Mar 2017

After Trump bullies lawmakers on Trumpcare, "Mr. Dealmaker" loses three more votes.

This morning, Donald Trump called together a bunch of GOP representatives in closed session to bully them into supporting Trumpcare when it comes up for a vote on Thursday. He started out on a lighthearted note, threatening the jobs of those who opposed him, saying anybody who voted “No” would be primaried. And just so everybody got the point, then it got personal:

And if the president’s threat of a primary challenge in the 2018 mid-term elections wasn’t enough to nudge defiant Republicans into compliance, Trump turned it up a notch, publicly confronting the bill’s main opposition leader, Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., with a bit of presidential intimidation.

After asking Meadows to stand up at the meeting, President Trump said, “I’m counting on you to vote for the bill,” according to Rep. Richard Hudson, R-N.C., who was there. President Trump later told Meadows: “I’m gonna come after you big time,” if the legislation falters.


Of course, the alleged author of The Art of the Deal, we have been told by none other that Trump Himself, is the world’s greatest dealmaker. So what was the result of this all-stick-no-carrot approach? 

According to the whip-count on The Hill, today three more GOP lawmakers switched from “Leaning No” to “Firm No.”

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/21/1645876/-After-Trump-bullies-lawmakers-on-Trumpcare-Mr-Dealmaker-loses-three-more-votes
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After Trump bullies lawmakers on Trumpcare, "Mr. Dealmaker" loses three more votes. (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2017 OP
SCROTUS doesn't seem to understand that congresspeople are not his employees. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #1
It was inevitable that he would run up against that sooner rather than later. I can hardly wait.... Hekate Mar 2017 #5
Hahaha! littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #9
For that matter, he doesn't understand that VOTERS are not his employees. Ken Burch Mar 2017 #14
that is their duty. they better do it. mopinko Mar 2017 #25
What poor planning! Trumpy didn't force all of Congress to sign NDAs! Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #28
Gotta love it. 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #2
Nice powers of persuasion, Gump. Charles Bukowski Mar 2017 #3
You know what else mercuryblues Mar 2017 #4
The Dump's approval rating is down to the mid-30s after only 2 months in office. NYC Liberal Mar 2017 #16
Trump tried to be LBJ and failed bigly at it. Kaleva Mar 2017 #6
LBJ - father of The Great Society - knew how to get votes. 45/140, not so much. Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 #10
LBJ knew exactly how Vietnam would unfold Saboburns Mar 2017 #21
Trump is too much of a wuss to pull that off properly. BlueStater Mar 2017 #20
Maybe he will start pulling a Stalin and having them roused at 2am and having them driven to kairos12 Mar 2017 #7
all-stick-no-carrot approach littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #8
I am the BEST Negotiator... NOT. Marie Marie Mar 2017 #11
How do you say it in emoticon? ffr Mar 2017 #12
We Should Have a DU Party When the Vote Fails in the House Leith Mar 2017 #13
We already know how "the Great Dealmaker" works in the private sector. Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #15
KNR Lucinda Mar 2017 #17
The mr Big Fat Liar Bully thing not workin' for Cha Mar 2017 #18
People don't respond well to bullies. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #19
That does not surprise me. I would react in the same way to. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #22
Honestly, it is really simple political math Cosmocat Mar 2017 #24
Clearly one of the Obama children is blackmailing them. randome Mar 2017 #23
The fake President is way out of his depth malaise Mar 2017 #26
Donny the Fool EricMaundry Mar 2017 #27

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
1. SCROTUS doesn't seem to understand that congresspeople are not his employees.
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:40 PM
Mar 2017

He hasn't figured out that there are three equal branches of government, and that trying to strong-arm either of the other branches - congress or the courts - is not likely to make them acquiesce to him. More likely, they'll resist even harder in order to protect their Constitutional turf.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
5. It was inevitable that he would run up against that sooner rather than later. I can hardly wait....
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:48 PM
Mar 2017

...until he bellows "You're fired!" at a Senator or Representative.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
28. What poor planning! Trumpy didn't force all of Congress to sign NDAs!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

Congress is known for gossip and leaks. With no NDAs signed they become an unwieldy bunch.

mercuryblues

(14,525 posts)
4. You know what else
Tue Mar 21, 2017, 11:46 PM
Mar 2017

Those threats and behavior will do? Push those republicans into voting for an independent investigation and a yes on an impeachment
vote.

benedict donald is under the impression he is the boss and can bully everyone into doing as he says. Trump claims he will get even with a lot of people. When push comes to shove he caves. He is a weak leader and chaotic they are only now realizing that.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
16. The Dump's approval rating is down to the mid-30s after only 2 months in office.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:36 AM
Mar 2017

He has zero political capital and he's about to be snapped out of his delusions. It took Bush until his second term to be this toxic, so that's really saying something.

Stinky The Clown

(67,766 posts)
10. LBJ - father of The Great Society - knew how to get votes. 45/140, not so much.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:15 AM
Mar 2017

I know a lot of people here don't like LBJ, but I rate him really high on the list of great presidents.

Yes, Viet Nam was a mistake. He was a complicated man. But look at what he gave us. Please don't hijack this thread as I can see could happen.

Saboburns

(2,807 posts)
21. LBJ knew exactly how Vietnam would unfold
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:05 AM
Mar 2017

Which is why he didnt want the US involved in the first place. You should study his thoughts on the Gulf of Tonkin incident. And how the whole thing would unfold.

Yes Vietnam happened under his watch, but his prescience on Vietnam before it actually happened is rather unnerving.

Heres a good quick take on it.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/08/05/how-lbj-was-deceived-on-gulf-of-tonkin/

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
20. Trump is too much of a wuss to pull that off properly.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:40 AM
Mar 2017

His flabby, 70-year-old rich boy frame doesn't inspire intimidation.

kairos12

(12,843 posts)
7. Maybe he will start pulling a Stalin and having them roused at 2am and having them driven to
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 12:51 AM
Mar 2017

a basement somewhere for further convincing. It would be fitting if they ended up in GITMO. Still, they would get better medical Servic there then what's offered in TrumpDon'tCare.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,158 posts)
15. We already know how "the Great Dealmaker" works in the private sector.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 02:00 AM
Mar 2017

First, threaten them with his fleet of lawyers. If that doesn't work, promise them anything and then stiff 'em anyway, using that same fleet of lawyers to protect his ample ass.

Well, it's not working, lardbutt. So much for running government like your business, eh?

Cha

(296,889 posts)
18. The mr Big Fat Liar Bully thing not workin' for
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:04 AM
Mar 2017

him now?

"Deliver the goods."

"You can't con people, at least not for long," Trump writes. "You can create excitement, you can do wonderful promotion and get all kinds of press, and you can throw in a little hyperbole. But if you can't deliver the goods, people will eventually catch on
."

From his book.. art of the deal

As seen here..



http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017429854#top

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. People don't respond well to bullies.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:11 AM
Mar 2017

Sure some may be intimidated but a lot of us just dig our heels in when we're threatened.

This was on the local news, not sure about Fox but if they covered the story I expect him to start tweeting about this any minute. No one ever said no to Twitler before, this is going to enrage him.


AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
22. That does not surprise me. I would react in the same way to.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:21 AM
Mar 2017

No normal person will tolerate that sort of heavy handedness. It is outrageous. This is what haopens when you lose contact with reality and live inside your head.

...pssst, potus....they have medication for this kind of thing....

Cosmocat

(14,559 posts)
24. Honestly, it is really simple political math
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:37 AM
Mar 2017

Politicians are politicians.

But, the hard right types are particularly craven mother fuckers.

What has become clear as this has developed is that they can oppose it from the "right" and by their position square with the most extreme elements of their brain washed 1/3 of the electorate AND ALSO, even though their rational is that it is not horrible enough, if the vote against it, end up being shown in a good light to those who oppose it because it si a horrible piece of legislation.

I saw an interview yesterday with one of these "Freedom Causus" scumbags, and he so bold in being in opposition to 45 because his office had taken 300 or so calls, 294 were against it and 6 were for it ...

NOW, you know 290 were folks like us hammering him to vote against it because it was horrible, and he knows that, but because he is in a safe gerrymander district and that is the bubble he lives in, he assigns it all to his ideology.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. Clearly one of the Obama children is blackmailing them.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 08:26 AM
Mar 2017

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