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If Ryan thinks he doesn't have the votes on TrumpDon'tCare, will he still bring it to the floor? (Original Post) Ken Burch Mar 2017 OP
God, I hope he's arrogant enough to bring it regardless. There isn't enough popcorn. EOM Grown2Hate Mar 2017 #1
First he will try Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #2
A delay is better than a lose. briv1016 Mar 2017 #3
He'll try twisting arms and Dolt45 will make bullying phone calls Warpy Mar 2017 #4
I doubt it, it would be too humiliating gopiscrap Mar 2017 #5
Hope Ryan votes and fails miserably, then is scuttled by his own party. democratisphere Mar 2017 #6
Let's hope so. Ryan is an amateur. jeanmarc Mar 2017 #7
He won't pull it. The vote will fail. He will put out another version for a vote no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #8
I now think that as well elfin Mar 2017 #9
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
2. First he will try
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:34 AM
Mar 2017

a Consent Voice Vote,and if he gets shot down. They will vote electronically with Ryan using the right to pull the bill for later reconsideration.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
3. A delay is better than a lose.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:44 AM
Mar 2017

A lose in the house now effectively kills the bill until after the midterms. Might even cost Ryan his Speakership.

Warpy

(111,135 posts)
4. He'll try twisting arms and Dolt45 will make bullying phone calls
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 01:46 AM
Mar 2017

and both of them will threaten to pull primary candidates out of their asses to defeat anyone voting against this turkey.

For us, it's almost a "can't lose" proposition. If they get their way, they'll be a minority in 2018 as people have a full 2 years to realize what voting for Republicans has cost them. If we get our way, the better way, people will keep their insurance and the fat cats will have to look elsewhere for their tax bonanzas.

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
7. Let's hope so. Ryan is an amateur.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:20 AM
Mar 2017

And he took a bad job. The 'freedom caucus' is going to ruin things.

Love it.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
9. I now think that as well
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 09:32 AM
Mar 2017

He and Trump will keep finding Reps to blame and they will immediately begin trashing them in their own districts and threaten to escalate that tactic and find someone to primary them.

It won't take long. Surprise! New version passes.

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