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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:35 PM Mar 2017

RussiaGate blows WIDE OPEN in Abrahamson report: High Crimes and Misdemeanors

by Trump, Sessions.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646686/-RussiaGate-blows-WIDE-OPEN-in-Abrahamson-report-High-crimes-and-misdemeanors-by-Trump-Sessions

In a stunning tweetstorm this evening, columnist and reporter Seth Abrahamson (Huffington Post, Dallas Morning News, Seattle Times, Washington Post) laid out all the details on the Russia-Trump connection. And folks, this is impeachment territory, and imprisonment territory, for the highest officials in the United States.

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RussiaGate blows WIDE OPEN in Abrahamson report: High Crimes and Misdemeanors (Original Post) LaydeeBug Mar 2017 OP
facts, evidence, corroboration sorely missing. but then every tweet is true lol nt msongs Mar 2017 #1
perhaps check again... LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #3
Reading is fundamental. nt babylonsister Mar 2017 #9
Say again? WinkyDink Mar 2017 #66
🙄 we can do it Mar 2017 #93
Holee shit!!! Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #2
++++ iluvtennis Mar 2017 #42
Forward this to the intell committee for tomorrow's meeting Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #4
Plot to sell America's foreign policy for foreign oil and steal election ... imprisonment territory L. Coyote Mar 2017 #5
Do they have any proof of the Roseneft share? Renew Deal Mar 2017 #6
Apparently it was leaked Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #12
If true, it's likely illegal 10 different way. Renew Deal Mar 2017 #13
Russian oil shares AND the Presidency. Not "for". The "for" is tRump policy action favoring Russia. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #96
A somewhat similar story from business insider a month ago womanofthehills Mar 2017 #35
wow. thanks for this. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #73
'offered' but not accepted. I doubt there is a paper trail of ownership. Sunlei Mar 2017 #108
K&R..a must read... HipChick Mar 2017 #7
Bye, Felicia ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2017 #8
Be nice if they took pence first, and Ryan resigns after the Healthcare fiasco Alice11111 Mar 2017 #38
Purge Pence first. Ryan will simply decline; wants 2020/24. Doesn't want to be short term Ford 74-76 Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #98
Pence lied about not knowing flynn spoke w Russians Alice11111 Mar 2017 #106
Holy Merde! Mme. Defarge Mar 2017 #10
Gov. Don Siegelman, the Roughly $3.6 Billion, ExxonMobil, and Pissing Off BIG OIL. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #18
Opps. Pickering spelled his name wrong. it's Seth Abramson pat_k Mar 2017 #11
Is Abramson reliable? eleny Mar 2017 #14
Columnist @HuffPostPol @DallasNews. Professor @UofNH. Editor @BAX_Series. Attorney. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #20
I hope that it can be verified who was staying at the Mayflower eleny Mar 2017 #22
We know who was in the room at the invitation-only VIP event, there are photos L. Coyote Mar 2017 #26
This whole thing is blowing up big with this tweet storm but it's all health care on the news eleny Mar 2017 #30
NY Times and politico.com BadgerMom Mar 2017 #32
since he says it was a known russian meeting place, mopinko Mar 2017 #77
No, insisted Bernie was winning all the way until the convention nt geek tragedy Mar 2017 #25
sources? triron Mar 2017 #29
Note the date. geek tragedy Mar 2017 #75
I'd agree to take it with a grain of salt, but lots of those links are verfiable. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #104
Over on dailykos BadgerMom Mar 2017 #33
Abramson seems very legit - professor at Univ of New Hampshire,graduate of Harvard Law, ... iluvtennis Mar 2017 #45
He is a proponent of making up the news as performance art Fiendish Thingy Mar 2017 #78
I don't have twitter or whatever Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #15
we need to wait for this to be sourced better from reading comments downthread on DKos Turn CO Blue Mar 2017 #16
I don't place a lot of weight on article comments on the web by pseudonymynous nobodies. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #23
Even if the pseudonymous nobodies provide verifiable critiques ? Fiendish Thingy Mar 2017 #79
Attacking the messenger is revelatory of losing on the truth front. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #82
Bots and trolls and nobodies, oh my! we can do it Mar 2017 #94
IF this is true, it could be a very huge story! kentuck Mar 2017 #17
wow! triron Mar 2017 #19
I mean, if even only 25% is true Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #21
And don't forget, members of the zentrum Mar 2017 #24
Bye bye BIG CON pbmus Mar 2017 #27
Never thought I'd agree with K.Fox watchers must be pissed. BTW, Intel may corroborate Obama wiretap Alice11111 Mar 2017 #40
Why does Fox News lie? sharedvalues Mar 2017 #60
Yes, those 2 things are next. Focus on Russia& Nunes resign Alice11111 Mar 2017 #105
Looks very plausible... tinrobot Mar 2017 #28
Most of this was already know and verified, Seth puts it together really well. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #34
+1000 dchill Mar 2017 #61
Nunes needs to ditch the pinstripes. dgibby Mar 2017 #88
I'm still reviewing the whole thread, but so far it rings of truth. StrictlyRockers Mar 2017 #31
Ooopha!! That's one scary spoon feeding. ffr Mar 2017 #36
Sessions was a sitting senator and betrayed his country. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #70
Absolutely agree. ffr Mar 2017 #92
He and Nunes Alice11111 Mar 2017 #107
How Russia sold its oil jewel (Reuters) dooner Mar 2017 #37
now we have some names, but what i wonder mopinko Mar 2017 #80
So, in the end they are all flamingdem Mar 2017 #39
Every single Repug involved with this... Dopers_Greed Mar 2017 #41
The only thing that makes me doubt this story,... LudwigPastorius Mar 2017 #43
.05 % 30-50 billion... pbmus Mar 2017 #47
Rosneft isn't a trillion dollar company. LudwigPastorius Mar 2017 #49
In 2006 it was worth 83 billion...and if pbmus Mar 2017 #53
You aren't including Sec of State Tillerson's role here... Kensan Mar 2017 #100
Don't forget that he also gets to be president radical noodle Mar 2017 #51
Plus he is heavily in debt. we can do it Mar 2017 #95
KNR Lucinda Mar 2017 #44
If Trump cheated to obtain office & is forced to resign, the rightful President is not Mike Pence. iluvtennis Mar 2017 #46
AMEN to that!! onetexan Mar 2017 #52
This would be the only true justice. SalviaBlue Mar 2017 #97
I'm wondering what the FBI is looking for as "solid proof" and not circumstantial. world wide wally Mar 2017 #48
Conversations with details, same as the Feds look for all conspiracy crimes. WinkyDink Mar 2017 #67
YEP Cosmocat Mar 2017 #74
Is organised crime big in Singapore? meadowlander Mar 2017 #50
I checked this Chitown Kev Mar 2017 #54
Speaking of Singapore, dgibby Mar 2017 #89
Is Singapore part of the known world? Google "Gambling in Singapore." Trump is not a "wannabe." WinkyDink Mar 2017 #68
So how long is this going to go on? JustAnotherGen Mar 2017 #55
"In exchange for lifting US sanctions" Buckeye_Democrat Mar 2017 #56
K&R KewlKat Mar 2017 #57
Bud FUCKING McFarland? Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #58
(MEGA-THREAD) KewlKat Mar 2017 #59
+1000 dchill Mar 2017 #62
Deserves its own OP.....thank you. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #71
Fantastic, thanks! Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #87
Yes! This should be an OP. Good work! FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #109
Wowza! Thank you for all this excellent source material. Nt Stardust Mar 2017 #110
Remember that no act brings about impeachment BainsBane Mar 2017 #63
I suggest to you that Nixon's resignation upon threat of impeachment was based on bi-partisan WinkyDink Mar 2017 #69
True in the case of Nixon BainsBane Mar 2017 #72
Nixon almost got away with it, even though people accepted that he was responsible grantcart Mar 2017 #99
As they said about Watergate, follow the money. Vinca Mar 2017 #64
That's almost always the nitty-gritty. Stardust Mar 2017 #111
NOT vague "high crimes and misdemeanors." It is the precisely delineated "TREASON." WinkyDink Mar 2017 #65
Read the comments in the Daily Kos thread Fiendish Thingy Mar 2017 #76
Talking it down? GliderGuider Mar 2017 #83
"Circumstantial evidence strongly indicates" is a weasly phrase. randome Mar 2017 #84
Here is a VERY similar & comprehensive story from Mar 20th...Abrahmson's inspiration... jmg257 Mar 2017 #81
Thank you for this. Very enlightening. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #91
The problem with conspiracies. Turbineguy Mar 2017 #85
Trump and admin need to Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #86
Why keep the owners a secret? Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #90
This is hopefully what will be exposed orangecrush Mar 2017 #101
You mean the ones Nunes just cancelled? LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #102
People need to scream about this. It is Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #103
I am fully confident orangecrush Mar 2017 #112

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
12. Apparently it was leaked
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:51 PM
Mar 2017

So I'm guessing yes, there's likely buckets of evidence.

Russian oil shares for presidency, folks!

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
13. If true, it's likely illegal 10 different way.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:55 PM
Mar 2017

Firstly, that it was not reported. Bribery, conspiracy, racketeering... And then you get into the treason stuff.

womanofthehills

(8,690 posts)
35. A somewhat similar story from business insider a month ago
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:13 AM
Mar 2017
A dossier with unverified claims about President Donald Trump's ties to Russia contained allegations that Igor Sechin, the CEO of Russia's state oil company, offered former Trump ally Carter Page and his associates the brokerage of a 19% stake in the company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia.


http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
8. Bye, Felicia
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:46 PM
Mar 2017

It would almost make these last few months worth it to see high members of this administration frog-marched out of the White House in cuffs.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
38. Be nice if they took pence first, and Ryan resigns after the Healthcare fiasco
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:31 AM
Mar 2017

If it happened after 2018 and we had the Senate, we could wind up w Schumer for Pres. Very unlikely to pan out that way. I just can't help thinking , how can we change this before he sets off a nuke.

I do think he would leave eventually, if the writing is on the wall, if we negotiated a face saving deal.
Anything to get rid of him.What would we get? I think Mattis would be 5th under the Constitution, or if we have taken back the Senate, Schumer.Too bad Bernie's not minority leader.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
106. Pence lied about not knowing flynn spoke w Russians
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:49 PM
Mar 2017

I'm sure thete is more. Damn Nunes canceled hearing.
Resign Nunes.

Mme. Defarge

(8,026 posts)
10. Holy Merde!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:49 PM
Mar 2017

Of course, oil. It's always been oil. It could only be oil.

Back when President Bill Clinton was dealing with the Monica Lewinsky scandal I wondered who was bankrolling the the effort to impeach him. Thinking it was "big tobacco" I did some online research. I was wrong, it wasn't "big tobacco", but "big oil" interests.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
22. I hope that it can be verified who was staying at the Mayflower
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:16 AM
Mar 2017

If they were staying there. Or at least who was renting all those rooms.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
26. We know who was in the room at the invitation-only VIP event, there are photos
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:33 AM
Mar 2017

of Flynn and the Russian ambassador at the speech. Who stayed at the Mayflower isn't very relevant, who met with Trump is. And all the lies to cover up the Rosneft/Russia connections are.

And all this is just one aspect of the Manafort story, which just blew up immensely with murder of a witness against him in Ukraine.


eleny

(46,166 posts)
30. This whole thing is blowing up big with this tweet storm but it's all health care on the news
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:40 AM
Mar 2017

It's understandable that health care is prominent. But Trump's being cut into the Rosneft deal is the biggest news.

Thanks for your replies. My head has been spinning trying to sort out what has been going on for two days. And now this.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
32. NY Times and politico.com
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:00 AM
Mar 2017

from 4/27/2016 each list some of those in attendance, including Kislyak, Sessions, Bob Woodward and Jake Tapper. Neither includes the three ambassadors of countries involved in the deal. However, I've read elsewhere that they were there. Tapper or Woodward might recall.

mopinko

(70,071 posts)
77. since he says it was a known russian meeting place,
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:06 AM
Mar 2017

hopefully our spooks did their job, and bugged the place.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
33. Over on dailykos
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:04 AM
Mar 2017

there's a discussion in the comments about the author. Apparently he is not solid. I was sorry to learn that. Much of his report, though, can be verified and I've read before. He has linked a lot here that's been published previously. It's certainly interesting, especially given how much of this story has been discoverable by piecing together information in the media.

iluvtennis

(19,844 posts)
45. Abramson seems very legit - professor at Univ of New Hampshire,graduate of Harvard Law, ...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:22 AM
Mar 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seth_Abramson

Currently an Assistant Professor of English at University of New Hampshire, Abramson is a graduate of Dartmouth College, Harvard Law School, the Iowa Writers' Workshop, and the doctoral program in English at University of Wisconsin-Madison.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
15. I don't have twitter or whatever
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:57 PM
Mar 2017

But this should be sent to mainstream media outlets before the bastards try to ram through Trumpcare bill tomorrow.

Turn CO Blue

(4,221 posts)
16. we need to wait for this to be sourced better from reading comments downthread on DKos
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:58 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not raining on it, just saying let's see how much of this holds up tomorrow.

The journalist apparently has published Fitzmas-type of stuff before, and follows a philosophy in writing called Metamodernism - which asserts that using literary license in reporting is necessary.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
23. I don't place a lot of weight on article comments on the web by pseudonymynous nobodies.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:19 AM
Mar 2017

Also, any time something like this gets written, the trolls comment too.


Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
79. Even if the pseudonymous nobodies provide verifiable critiques ?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:10 AM
Mar 2017

Abramson is on record regarding Metamodernism, and making up the news as performance art.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
82. Attacking the messenger is revelatory of losing on the truth front.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:21 AM
Mar 2017

Plus, he draws a lot of hate for being an ardent Berner. Besides, you can't make this stuff up!

RNC paid intel firm for Clinton dirt
Firm started by ex-CIA officers initially denied probing Democratic presidential candidate.
.... the Republican National Committee initiated a series of payments to a low-profile firm started by retired Central Intelligence Agency officers that worked closely with an ex-Russian spy. .... the Virginia-based firm, Hamilton Trading Group, had particular expertise in Russia ... most of the cash — $34,100 — went towards intelligence-style reports ...


kentuck

(111,076 posts)
17. IF this is true, it could be a very huge story!
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:00 AM
Mar 2017

This caught my eye:

"26) The only Kislyak meeting Sessions _never_ disclosed to Congress, _even after accusations of perjury_, was the meeting at the Mayflower. "

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
40. Never thought I'd agree with K.Fox watchers must be pissed. BTW, Intel may corroborate Obama wiretap
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:47 AM
Mar 2017

Of DT was a Fox headline tonight. Anyone know anything about where they are getting that, or is it the usual Fox spin, confuse, distort...fake news. Some people are saying, like we are....

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
60. Why does Fox News lie?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 07:42 AM
Mar 2017

Because they were founded to be a disinformation source of lies supporting GOP and Murdoch super-wealthy interests.

They need Trump to stay around long enough to get massive tax giveaways to the wealthy and a stolen supreme court pick. So they lie.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
105. Yes, those 2 things are next. Focus on Russia& Nunes resign
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

He is already trying to change it to Tax cuts again.

The stock market changed directions and started moving higher as soon as he said tax cuts now!

We have to expose thay too.
Russia! Russia!
Het rid of Nunes, and get someone w balls to investigate.
If you are in his district, organize 730 am til 9 pm
hr demos, resign for cover up.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
34. Most of this was already know and verified, Seth puts it together really well.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:11 AM
Mar 2017

We've known almost all of this for some time now, what is happening is people are putting the pieces together into a cohesive big picture while at the same time more info is coming to light daily, such as Manafort's working for Putin for $10 million a year, and events are unfolding like witnesses getting shot in the street or thrown out windows.






StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
31. I'm still reviewing the whole thread, but so far it rings of truth.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:47 AM
Mar 2017

I think he's doing real investigative journalism here.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
36. Ooopha!! That's one scary spoon feeding.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:13 AM
Mar 2017

If just about any one of these coincidences bears fruit, it's game over. The dam is going to break.

I bet the FBI has all this in hand too.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
70. Sessions was a sitting senator and betrayed his country.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:15 AM
Mar 2017

He is a traitor and deserves to spend the rest of his racist life in prison. This is shocking...Trump ran for the presidency to make a deal with the Russians for profit. God knows what he is doing now with all the access a president has...he needs to go and soon. If this is true Trump should rot in prison for the rest of his life...all those involved should. And the ambassadors need to be kicked out of the country. Knowing what happens in Russia to those who know where the bodies are buried, they might be open to defecting and spilling their guts. We basically have a Russian spy as president if this is true, and I think it may be.

ffr

(22,668 posts)
92. Absolutely agree.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:30 PM
Mar 2017

Republicans are about themselves, greed, and power. For a 0.5% stake in Rosneft oil company, they may be able to tie in additional quid-pro-quo with the Keystone pipeline deal they're cramming through right now. A snowball of $$$ for them and only them.

This is why RW TV/radio is so dangerous. Without it, we wouldn't have so many brainwashed red drones out their supporting a regime that's just fucking us all.

dooner

(1,217 posts)
37. How Russia sold its oil jewel (Reuters)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 01:13 AM
Mar 2017

... without saying who bought it (January 2017)


More than a month after Russia announced one of its biggest privatizations since the 1990s, selling a 19.5 percent stake in its giant oil company Rosneft, it still isn't possible to determine from public records the full identities of those who bought it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH

mopinko

(70,071 posts)
80. now we have some names, but what i wonder
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:12 AM
Mar 2017

is how many of them are just laundering that money. selling the shares for rubles, then reselling them for dollars.

i mean, i dont know what services carter page provided, but he seems like a tiny bit player here. did he earn that? or is he just gonna churn that?

LudwigPastorius

(9,130 posts)
43. The only thing that makes me doubt this story,...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:11 AM
Mar 2017

is the assertion that Trump settled for half a percent of Rosneft stock.

Then again, as is plain by this week's Imaginary Republican Health Care Bill, he's a shitty negotiator.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
47. .05 % 30-50 billion...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:27 AM
Mar 2017

The BIG CON Jumps to one of the top ten greediest mother fucks in the world...

LudwigPastorius

(9,130 posts)
49. Rosneft isn't a trillion dollar company.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:37 AM
Mar 2017

At the time of the deal, it was valued at around $59 billion.

...making the Trump payoff $295 million.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
53. In 2006 it was worth 83 billion...and if
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 03:04 AM
Mar 2017

They can get the oil out of the ground with new tech that Exxon has they will be worth more than a trillion...

Kensan

(180 posts)
100. You aren't including Sec of State Tillerson's role here...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

That 0.5% interest is worth a ton if a sanctioned oil drilling deal gets the greenlight. This was all part of the quid-pro-quo to get Trump the presidency. Oil deals, weapons deals and a destabilizing of NATO, and all they had to do was sow a ton of discord into the election process with bots.

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
51. Don't forget that he also gets to be president
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:45 AM
Mar 2017

and have the US taxpayers pay the bills for his lifestyle for however long he holds on to the office.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
48. I'm wondering what the FBI is looking for as "solid proof" and not circumstantial.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:30 AM
Mar 2017

They know they can't leave anything to the discretion of this GOP.
It will have to be air tight.

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
74. YEP
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:24 AM
Mar 2017

Assuming they are truly trying to do the right thing.

They can have a video of Putin and Trump shaking hands while talking about the whole thing flat out, and 1/3 of this country won't accept it.

They have to have some pretty direct and clear evidence to make this fly.

meadowlander

(4,394 posts)
50. Is organised crime big in Singapore?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:40 AM
Mar 2017

Just wondering what connects Italy, Russia, Singapore and (wannabe casino owner) Donald Trump.

Chitown Kev

(2,197 posts)
54. I checked this
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:00 AM
Mar 2017

There are a couple of big contracts that Rosneft has with Italian companies; one of them is a big helicopter contract and the CEO of Rosneft has been doing other business in Italy.

Here is the Singapore connection

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-insight-idUSKBN1582OH

Note that Qatar is also in this...and Bud McFarlane has been doing contract work for Qatar in Singapore and (I would assume) know the players.

I posted a thread on this earlier tonight than deleted it but most of the events that Abramson described did take place.

JustAnotherGen

(31,798 posts)
55. So how long is this going to go on?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:03 AM
Mar 2017

Putin just had a long time party faithful who defected and renounced his citizenship shot in the street yesterday. Every single time something unfolds he sends another message to the traitors in the GOP.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
56. "In exchange for lifting US sanctions"
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:28 AM
Mar 2017
The #Russiagate scandal involves claims Trump was given 0.5% of Rosneft and aid in getting elected in exchange for lifting US sanctions.


Good luck receiving your payment, Putin!

You're not the first person or group that Trump didn't pay. There, there.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
58. Bud FUCKING McFarland?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 06:49 AM
Mar 2017

Lesson to Democrats: Stop being soft on Republicans who commit crimes! The people Iran/Contra were just embolden to commit more crimes; case in point.

Also, was Mitch McConnell at that meeting???

KewlKat

(5,624 posts)
59. (MEGA-THREAD)
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 07:21 AM
Mar 2017

The plot to sell America's foreign policy for foreign oil _and_ steal an election in the bargain began at the Mayflower Hotel.
1) Per @NYMag, Paul Manafort took over the Trump campaign on April 16, just 72 hours before Trump mathematically eliminated his competition.

2) The timing was intentional: Manafort, hired in March, was slated to become the campaign's key player as soon as Trump became the nominee.

3) On April 21, 48 hours after clinching, Trump announced the first major foreign policy address of his life. It was scheduled for April 27.

4) The speech, arranged by Jared Kushner in mid-March, was to be hosted by the Center for the National Interest, a conservative think tank.

5) The Center is _widely_ known to have "ties to the Russian regime of President Vladimir Putin," per Politico.

6) The speech was slated to be at the National Press Club, an august venue with a _long_ history of staging secure events with large crowds.

7) Less than 24 hours before the speech, it was cancelled. The Trump campaign (i.e., Manafort) declared the venue was too small and unsafe.

8) So Manafort moved the event to the Mayflower Hotel: a smaller, less secure site. The decision confirmed the campaign's excuses were lies.

9) The two things the Mayflower had that the NPC didn't were
(a) 581 private rooms for private meetings, and
(b) restricted, VIP-only areas.

10) The latter was important because Manafort wanted Trump to hold an intimate, 24-person cocktail hour in the Mayflower's VIP Senate Room.

11) Among the 24 at the event: Trump, CNI event coordinator Heilbrunn, Jeff Sessions, Kushner, Lewandowski, Manafort, and four ambassadors.

12) Another VIP at the event was Iran-Contra figure Bud McFarlane, one of America's chief advocates for a bargain with Russia on oil access.

13) The four ambassadors were the only four ambassadors in the world (out of 195 total) that the Putin-linked CNI had invited to the event.

14) The _biggest oil deal in Russia's history_ occurred in December of 2016. It involved the coordination of entities from three countries.

15) Individuals from those three countries—RUSSIA, ITALY, and SINGAPORE—negotiated the sale of 19.5% of Russia's state oil company, Rosneft.

16) The #Russiagate scandal involves claims Trump was given 0.5% of Rosneft and aid in getting elected in exchange for lifting US sanctions.

17) The Rosneft deal closed Dec. 5-7. During that time McFarlane visited Trump Tower. It's believed Russian ambassador/spy Kislyak did too.

18) WSJ wrote in April 2016 that Trump met separately with the ambassadors at the Mayflower and was QUOTE:

Trump Met the Russian Ambassador During the Campaign Even Though He Said He Didn’t. It Was Googleable.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/03/07/trump_met_russian_ambassador_kislyak_during_campaign_in_april_2016.html

19) “Trump met at a VIP reception with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak. He warmly greeted Kislyak and 3 other ambassadors."

20) The ambassadors at the Mayflower: RUSSIA! ITALY! SINGAPORE! And the Philippines--which is routinely cited as a Rosneft expansion target.

21) So Trump warmly, privately chatted with the 3 Rosneft-deal nations at a cocktail hour right before his _first big foreign-policy event_.

22) In his speech Trump called for a Russian detente: "We desire to live peacefully and in friendship with Russia...we are not bound...

23) to be adversaries. We should seek common ground based on shared interests...an easing of tensions and improved relations with Russia...

24) is possible..[I hope to] make a deal under my administration that’s great for America but also good for Russia."

25) Richard Burt, CNI and Russian Alfa Bank adviser, _crafted the speech_. He was also _Putin's pipeline lobbyist_.

26) The only Kislyak meeting Sessions _never_ disclosed to Congress, _even after accusations of perjury_, was the meeting at the Mayflower.

27) But per the organizer of the Mayflower Hotel event, Jacob Heilbrunn of the CNI, a third Sessions-Kislyak meeting _definitely_ occurred.

28) Heilbrunn on the VIP event: "At a reception in the Senate Room of the Mayflower, a number of politicians and Trump advisers, such as...

29) ... Senator Jeff Sessions and ambassadors [from Russia and the other nations] congregated before the event."

30) The VIP event _wasn't_ just a receiving line as Trump claimed. It was a "cocktail meet-and-greet"--a full event.

31) That Sessions would feel the need to hide his contact with Kislyak at the Mayflower event after accusations of perjury raises red flags.

32) The White House saying it has “no recollection” of any of the VIPs at Trump's _biggest-ever foreign policy event_ is also a red flag.

33) When Kislyak was asked if he’d met Trump or members of his team during the campaign he replied, "What do you consider a campaign?"

34) Kislyak went on to _fail_ to disclose his meeting with Trump at the Mayflower, citing only a meeting at the RNC.

35) We know Manafort and Kislyak would have known each other, as Manafort indirectly worked for Putin for years.

36) We know Manafort set up the Mayflower event and was available for meetings at it--as was Kushner, who later met secretly with Kislyak.

37) Congress must investigate _any_ Mayflower meetings between Sessions, Manafort, Kushner, Kislyak and the Italian/Singaporean ambassadors.

@SethAbramson The Politico piece should be fascinating. Got the page open and will start on that at end of this gobsmacking tweet series.

38) We know the White House lied about Mayflower. We know Sessions has. We know Kislyak has. And we know the Rosneft players were present.

39) We know there was ample time/space for "sidelines" meetings. And we know Walid Phares was also there, and Trump Jr., and Stephen Miller.

40) So other than the RNC and suspicious Trump Tower meetings in December, the Mayflower Speech should get the _most_ attention in Congress.

CREDITS/ADDITIONAL DOCS) Thanks to @grantstern and to Politico. The New York Magazine article on Manafort is below.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/04/how-paul-manafort-took-over-the-trump-campaign.html

NOTES) At several points I used "oil" instead of "oil/gas" or "oil/LNG" or just "LNG" (liquefied natural gas). This was Twitter shorthand.

ADDITIONAL DOCS 2) Information on the Rosneft sale taken largely from this excellent Reuters article on the topic:

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1582OH

I do think that if the genesis of #Russiagate is traced to Trump's Mayflower speech (4/27/16), we'll likely call this the Mayflower Scandal.

ADDITIONAL DOCS 3) Here is the CNI press release announcing the attending ambassadors:



DOCS 4) Flynn-Kushner-Kislyak's Trump Tower meeting was clandestine: press saw nothing, suggesting alternate entry.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/02/us/politics/kushner-flynn-sessions-russia.html

DOCS 5) CNI ('06): McFarlane says Russia's LNG reserves are key to any strategy weaning US from M.E. oil dependence.

https://nationalinterest.org/commentary/a-real-alternative-1209

DOCS 6) The Steele Dossier, written by the former head of MI6's Russia desk (known for excellent sources in Russia):

https://www.buzzfeed.com/kenbensinger/these-reports-allege-trump-has-deep-ties-to-russia?utm_term=.nmpDDdnBWL#.twM4413Mzv

DOCS 7) _Not normal_: "Kislyak broke the diplomatic norm against attending campaign events" to go to the Mayflower.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/donald-trump-campaign-lobbyist-russian-pipeline-229264

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
63. Remember that no act brings about impeachment
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 07:49 AM
Mar 2017

No matter how traitorous. That decision lies entirely with the GOP House, and conviction is controlled by the GOP Senate.

Remember the last impeachment vote came about because of a blow job. Impeachment is political.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
69. I suggest to you that Nixon's resignation upon threat of impeachment was based on bi-partisan
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:12 AM
Mar 2017

support for his impeachment.

And, while Clinton's impeachment was politically motivated (with a huge touch of the Puritanism of Ken Starr), Bill was impeached for perjury ABOUT sexual activity, not the activity itself.

BainsBane

(53,029 posts)
72. True in the case of Nixon
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 08:19 AM
Mar 2017

but we are no longer the same country. The GOP cares far more about party than country, as the Clinton impeachment demonstrated.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
99. Nixon almost got away with it, even though people accepted that he was responsible
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 03:45 PM
Mar 2017

It was only after Judge Sirica gave provisional 40 year sentences to the burglars and McCord sent a letter stating that he was being paid to be quiet. Dean, who was running the cover up, switches sides and gives detailed evidence of the discussions which implicate the President.

At this point it still isn't clear that he will be impeached but Butterfield disclosed the tapes.

It wasn't until tapes with the President's own words demonstrated an absolute proof that the President was lying and was going to face criminal prosecution that the Republicans caved.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
76. Read the comments in the Daily Kos thread
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:05 AM
Mar 2017

Abramson is a proponent of making up the news as a form of performance art. He is not to be trusted. While a few elements of his tweets can be verified, the rest is likely speculation, if not fabrication.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
84. "Circumstantial evidence strongly indicates" is a weasly phrase.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:29 AM
Mar 2017

You're right, this should all be taken with a big grain of salt and we should wait for verification.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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jmg257

(11,996 posts)
81. Here is a VERY similar & comprehensive story from Mar 20th...Abrahmson's inspiration...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:18 AM
Mar 2017

Last edited Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:27 AM - Edit history (1)

This is a must read. Co-exists with the Buzzfeed Dossier nicely too.

https://medium.com/@grantstern/trump-russia-dossier-decoded-yes-there-really-was-a-massive-oil-deal-e33370349b67#.nfm8ho4s1

Trump Russia Dossier Decoded: Yes, There Really Was A Massive Oil Deal (UPDATED)

Circumstantial evidence strongly indicates that President Donald J. Trump and his campaign associates brokered a massive oil privatization deal, where his Organization facilitated a global financial transaction to sell Russian Oil stock to its Syrian War adversary, the Emirate of Qatar.
...
Donald Trump and Russia conducted the transaction in three phases; Phase 1 began in early 2016 with a meeting of the minds at The Mayflower Hotel to start the deal and a due diligence period, Phase 2 began just before the Republican National Convention and continued through Election Day, and Phase 3 happened after Trump’s shocking win and concluding just days before Buzzfeed published the bombshell dossier describing the deal.

The end result allowed Russia to trade stolen emails to help to Donald Trump’s election campaign (as well as that of many Republican Congressmen), in exchange for help circumventing American sanctions to transact the sale of Rosneft, which Putin desperately needed to finance his budget deficit.

The Rosneft transaction also purportedly sent a $500 million dollar brokerage fee to Carter Page, or perhaps the Trump Organization.



Here is a comment from CNFI about the April event, downplaying trump interaction with guests, and Kislyak as being just another one of 4 ambassadors; of course trump wouldn't need to be the one in detailed meets with all these people, would he?...
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/statement-regarding-president-trumps-april-27-2016-foreign-19715
As the host, the Center for the National Interest decided whom to invite and then issued the invitations. The Trump campaign did not determine or approve the invitation list. Guests at the event included both Democrats and Republicans, with some among the latter supporting other candidates. Most of the guests were Washington-based foreign policy experts and journalists.
The Center for the National Interest invited Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and several other ambassadors to the speech. We regularly invite ambassadors and other foreign representatives to our events to facilitate dialogue. Ambassador Kislyak was one of four foreign ambassadors who attended the speech that day. We seated all four in the front row during the speech in deference to their diplomatic status. The Trump campaign had nothing to do with the seating arrangement.
...


And here is another CNFI report confirming the (strange?) mix of ambassadors, and some attendees..
https://cftni.org/recent-events/donald-trump-delivers-foreign-policy-speech/

Zalmay Khalilzad, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Afghanistan and Iraq, introduced Mr. Trump. Ambassador Khalilzad is also one of the members of The National Interest advisory council and the Center’s board of directors. Center Chairman General Charles Boyd, board members Drew Guff, Grover Norquist and President Dimitri Simes also took part. Other participants included Senator Jeff Sessions, several Members of the House of Representatives and the ambassadors of Italy, the Philippines, Russia and Singapore. The full text of Mr. Trump’s remarks can be found below:


Turbineguy

(37,313 posts)
85. The problem with conspiracies.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:46 AM
Mar 2017

A lot of people are involved.

None of them can truly trust each other.

Invariably someone will be unhappy with their share of the loot.



Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
86. Trump and admin need to
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 09:57 AM
Mar 2017

Be charged with treason, espionage, and all other possible charges. SEIZE HIS ASSETS.

SEIZE KUSHNER'S ASSETS. Find where they have all hidden their money and seize it. No doubt they have all done contortions hiding it offshore and in mysterious accounts.

Give HRC her rightful place as president.

Oh, and don't forget that creepy, nasty, goat-piss loving Mercer family, too. Those freaks think - literally believe - that people with no money have no value, and they got involved in Trumps campaign in August, and helped install Bannon and others. They are odious.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
90. Why keep the owners a secret?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 11:12 AM
Mar 2017
In addition, public records show the ownership structure of the stake ultimately includes a Cayman Islands company whose beneficial owners cannot be traced.


Unless it's for the obvious reasons.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
103. People need to scream about this. It is
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017

too important to let this slide. We've gained momentum but can't stop until Cheeto and cartel are removed and charged.

orangecrush

(19,512 posts)
112. I am fully confident
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:15 PM
Mar 2017

They will be.

I "scream" by calling Bob Casey and thanking him for voting against Gourche, and to ask him to demand Nunes to step down, and demand a special prosecutor be appointed.

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