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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey seem to be bringing up Hillary and Uranium as a Panacea to 45's Russian problem
They are conflating. They are desperate. Tell them that Hillary could never sell uranium all by herself. Tell them the Clinton Foundation is leading the charge to CURE AIDS and Trump already pleaded guilty to some sort of fraud regarding his foundation.
Add anything you think should be added here...we democrats may not have a disciplined message (aside: HOW many nicknames for Twiter are there?) but since they repeat the same thing ad nauseum, we can at least have a rapid response to that shit.
Fuck these motherfuckers. They enabled a coup and they stole the election.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Preemptive messaging!
triron
(21,998 posts)but am a bit confused by your headline. Who is "they"? How is Hillary a part of this except
that she shuld be the legitimate POTUS?
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)as though it has anything to do with anything else, but it is how they are trying to frame the narrative.
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)it's like the right is says "You bastards! How dare you cohort yourself with foreign officials that do something as nefarious as donating millions of dollars to fight AIDS! Pure evil!
Even if everything they said about her was true (it isn't) at the end of the day she'd be what? Someone who uses political corruption to improve the lives of millions of people around the world with charitable aid?... Yeah... sounds terrible
Jim__
(14,075 posts)From snopes:
The Uranium One deal was not Clintons to veto or approve
Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have. Clinton was one of nine cabinet members and department heads that sit on the CFIUS, and the secretary of the treasury is its chairperson. CFIUS members are collectively charged with evaluating the transaction for potential national security issues, then turning their findings over to the president. By law, the committee cant veto a transaction; only the president can. According to The New York Times, Clinton may not have even directly participated in the Uranium One decision. Then-Assistant Secretary of State Jose Fernandez, whose job it was to represent the State Dept. on CFIUS, said Clinton herself never intervened in committee matters.
The timing of most of the donations does not match
Of the $145 million allegedly contributed to the Clinton Foundation by Uranium One investors, the lions share $131.3 million came from a single donor, Frank Giustra, the companys founder. But Giustra sold off his entire stake in the company in 2007, three years before the Russia deal and at least 18 months before Clinton became secretary of state.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)"The Uranium One deal was not Clintons to veto or approve". As Secretary of State she simply didn't have that kind of power.
IME for most people the more simple and direct an answer is, the better a chance it has of being heard, understood and remembered.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,339 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)I live in a red part of a blue state
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)..It would be the same as what DrumfUK Is Doing.
CONJOB LOGIC!!
WePurrsevere
(24,259 posts)... but I agree. The RWers either aren't bright enough or are so Faux News brainwashed, or both, to see the difference.
Kath2
(3,074 posts)As if it has anything to do with Trump's corruption and horrible agenda.
Yes, Hillary Clinton negotiated a multi-billion dollar uranium deal with the Russians all by herself. BULLSHIT!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Kath2
(3,074 posts)I listen to it on my morning commute because it pisses me off and really wakes me up. After I feel awake I have to turn the assholes off.
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/
Also,
4 Pinocchios to Trump.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)just making shit up.