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http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a54130/trump-merkel-nato/Angela Merkel's White House Visit Was Way More Awkward Than We Knew
This is not how you conduct diplomacy.
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By Peter Wade
Mar 26, 2017
Just when you thought German chancellor Angela Merkel's visit couldn't have been any worse, it has been recently reported that President Donald Trump actually printed out an invoice for $374 billionmoney Trump believes Germany owes to NATO, with interestand handed it to Merkel during their closed doors meeting, The Sunday Times reported.
This is embarrassing for so many reasons. First, it's just plain rude to invite a guest into your home and then hand them a bill. Emily Post must have written a chapter on this somewhere.
Furthermore, this is simply not how NATO defense funding works.
According to CNN, NATO sets a target for how much countries should spend on their own defense forces, the theory being that if all NATO countries have a strong defense, it will benefit all members. Currently the target for spending is 2% of a country's gross domestic product. Germany currently spends 1.2% of GDP on defense while the United States spends 3.61%. Only the U.S., Britain, Estonia, Poland, and Greece actually exceed 2% GDP defense spending.
But 2% is merely a guideline, and the money does not go to NATO as Trump seems to believe. It just means that Germany is spending 0.8% less of its GDP on its own defense, so even if Germany technically "owes" $374 billion in defense spending, it owes those funds to Germany's armed forces, not NATO. Trump basically handed Merkel a bill stating that she owes herself money.
"The president has a very unorthodox view on NATO defense spending," a source told the Times. "The alliance is not a club with a membership fee. The commitments relate to countries' investment in their defense budgets."
Unorthodox is one way to put it. Crazy is another. It's going to be a long four years, folks.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)is "Batshit," Alex?
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Beartracks
(12,809 posts)NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)We have an ignoramus thug in the White House.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)No words. WTF?
Motley13
(3,867 posts)I'm just a little short with Pootie.
She is the leader of the free world & soooo far superior to putz.
How great Angela & Hillary would have been.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)Water and utilities, if nothing else.
Turbineguy
(37,317 posts)NATO and Country Club.
doc03
(35,325 posts)then proposes robbing $64 billion from the American people for more military spending. My question is why should they
spend more money when they have a dumbass
like Trump in the WH?
samnsara
(17,616 posts)doc03
(35,325 posts)calimary
(81,212 posts)And yes, I know that means pResident Pence, but either way, both their "terms" would be short, quite truncated, and marked by turmoil. I doubt Pence would get much done, either.
Then we could wipe away the stain of BOTH of them in 2020.
elias7
(3,997 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)mwooldri
(10,303 posts)She is the current chairwoman of the Christian Democratic Union - nominally a right of center political party. Though comparing the CDUs politics to the Republican Party would be unfair... they don't pair up well even though both are considered to be right of center on the political spectrum. CDU would be considered in American terms more to be a blue dog Democrat on social issues and more of a progressive Democrat on fiscal issues.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)what a dolt.
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)Volaris
(10,270 posts)His ONLY overlying principal is create as much chaos as you can, and then in the confusion start setting things on fire.
I weep for the career and professional staff at the State Department. To have to spend half their workdays not only under orders to do nothing useful, they have to spend the other half cleaning up after the stray worthless dogs that keeps shitting on their lawn now. I cannot imagine how embarrassed these people must be to have to keep going to work and trying to keep things even-keel with their foreign counterparts.
Steve Bannon is the worst of the Deplorables. I really REALLY want to see his fatass swing from a rope. Not even anyone from the Jr administration made me feel this way.
RedSpartan
(1,693 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Even if they were that far behind, WHO THE HELL DOES HE THINK HE IS TO GIVE THAT TO ANYONE????????
DOES HE THINK HE RUNS NATO? IS HE REALLY THAT STUPID (AND I DO NOT MEAN IGNORANT, BUT STUPID)???????
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Has he pulled this bullshit stunt with any other country?
Probably not.
He did this to GERMANY. That is not lost on me.
tblue37
(65,319 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)JCat
(26 posts)Herr Dummkopf!
gopiscrap
(23,756 posts)Du bist ein scheisskauf
eppur_se_muova
(36,259 posts)emmadoggy
(2,142 posts)Deplorably shameful.
enid602
(8,613 posts)Traditionally, Germany has been urged NOT to spend heavily on defense, given the excesses of a previous fascist regime. I hope our little foray into fascism doesn't leave us in the same boat.
Kath2
(3,074 posts)She is far more intelligent than Trump. And I'm sure she has better manners.
She's a former research scientist with a doctorate in physical chemistry.
I am absolutely ashamed of this idiot in the White House.
jmowreader
(50,553 posts)And after being handed a $375 billion invoice because Donald Fucking Trump thinks the Germans aren't doing enough to support NATO, no one would have blamed her if she had.