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womanofthehills

(8,688 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 02:36 AM Mar 2017

Kushner and Trump: Taped At Secret Trump Tower Meetings With Russians - SPECULATION by L.Mensch

This is not news - it's speculation by Louise Mensch - but it sure makes sense and she seems to have some intelligence connections.


I believe that Jared Kushner is on tape talking to a Russian spy. Worse, I believe that as part of entirely legal and admissible FISA evidence, Donald Trump is also on tape talking to a Russian spy about money laundering.

Here is my reasoning. First,the facts. I reported that two Russian banks, SVB Bank and Alfa Bank, were the subjects, the named targets, of the FISA warrant looking at Russian money being laundered into the Trump campaign. This was a world exclusive on November 7th.

Permission was granted for the FBI to look at intercepts that involved US persons as they related to this campaign / money laundering.
Boris Epshteyn was named in an earlier version of this case to the court, and the warrant was then denied. But it is not a different case; rather, minimization was applied by the FBI before the warrant was granted.

Those are the facts of the matter on the warrant. It is also factually true that Jeff Sessions met with Kislyak, a spy recruiter, and perjured himself over it. It is further factually true that Jared Kushner snuck Kislyak into Trump Tower. Lastly, it is factually true that Jared Kushner met Gorkov, an FSB spy, at the request of Kislyak,
Second, informed speculation.

I believe that on March 3rd, Michael Ellis, newly placed in the White House, gave Donald Trump some very bad news (illegally). First he told him that Kislayak’s phone calls had been intercepted and his meetings taped – as is normal. Hence Jeff Sessions’ conversations with the spy-master were on tape. Worse, Ellis told Trump, members of Donald Trump’s own family had been taped talking to that same Russian ambassad
or. Lastly, he, Donald Trump, was also recorded – his phone was recorded – in Trump Tower – talking to Kislyak.

https://patribotics.blog/2017/03/28/kushner-and-trump-taped-at-secret-trump-tower-meetings-with-russians/
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Kushner and Trump: Taped At Secret Trump Tower Meetings With Russians - SPECULATION by L.Mensch (Original Post) womanofthehills Mar 2017 OP
Thanks for the link. It will be interesting to see how well she connected the dots as things Lucinda Mar 2017 #1
THIS: "... it was about Russian money being funneled into the Trump campaign...." L. Coyote Mar 2017 #8
The amount that doesn't need to be reported is $50. brooklynite Mar 2017 #13
Money transfers amount is $10,000 or more must be reported by bank, 9,999.99 not required. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #17
That has to do with money transfers in general...not funds to a political campaign. brooklynite Mar 2017 #18
Who said money was going to a political campaign? KittyWampus Mar 2017 #22
The person I replied to? brooklynite Mar 2017 #24
That seems quite logical... 61 minutes does seems like a definite attempt to avoid Lucinda Mar 2017 #14
Fascinating and informed speculation PJMcK Mar 2017 #2
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2017 #10
I wonder about reason trump started cyber-lynching Obama. It came after the order to preserve docs. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #20
It would be nice if this version is true. Not because it would bring down the Trump gang TrollBuster9090 Mar 2017 #3
LM is saying that Trump Tower was under surveillance during the campaign? HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #4
The surveillance was on the Russian ambassador apparently, spies spying on spies. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #6
The Wire Season 6 HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #21
Trump himself was not under suveillance leftynyc Mar 2017 #12
Makes sense to me. InAbLuEsTaTe Mar 2017 #5
Michael Ellis was House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Special Counsel, Nunes' lawyer L. Coyote Mar 2017 #7
Who need a special prosecutor when we have Twitter? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #9
#TrumpRussia 50 tweet MEGA-THREAD by Seth Abramson L. Coyote Mar 2017 #11
Rep Adam Schiff is Trump's Worst Nightmare: A Prosecutor Who Has Taken Down A Kremlin Spy L. Coyote Mar 2017 #15
Mensch has been outstanding NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #16
So not Mark Levin? Not Fox news? But trump team on tape from meets at trump tower? jmg257 Mar 2017 #19
Malcolm Nance tweet this morning womanofthehills Mar 2017 #23

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
8. THIS: "... it was about Russian money being funneled into the Trump campaign...."
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:37 AM
Mar 2017

That might explain the bank server communications every 61 minutes, another money transfer in the amount just below reporting requirements?

brooklynite

(94,483 posts)
24. The person I replied to?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:46 AM
Mar 2017

"THIS: "... it was about Russian money being funneled into the Trump campaign...."

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
14. That seems quite logical... 61 minutes does seems like a definite attempt to avoid
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:04 AM
Mar 2017

flagging as "too frequent" ...but I'm out of my element here!

PJMcK

(22,023 posts)
2. Fascinating and informed speculation
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:05 AM
Mar 2017

Ms. Mensch guesses about some rather potent potential trouble for the president and his team. It will be interesting (and frightening) to see how this story develops.

In the article, she makes a brilliant observation: "Trump garbled this because he is galactically stupid." She's a wonderful wordsmith.

Response to PJMcK (Reply #2)

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. I wonder about reason trump started cyber-lynching Obama. It came after the order to preserve docs.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:34 AM
Mar 2017

Given the WH counsel had ordered Russia-related document preservation during the week, I suspect the WH had been served a subpoena for said docs that week. Then Trump and advisors knew they were investigation targets and perhaps knew they had been caught red-handed, so they had to come up with a defense strategy. Guilty and caught leads to the need to get the evidence thrown out, so they started blaming Obama and calling it political spying.

Mensch thinks that someone else informed trump, House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Special Counsel, Michael Ellis, who now works for Trump.




TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
3. It would be nice if this version is true. Not because it would bring down the Trump gang
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:46 AM
Mar 2017

(and many might think that was reason enough!) ...but because, if this version is true, it might finally put some bipartisan steam behind the effort to get f-ing DARK MONEY out of elections!

It's disgusting that there are people out there who don't care if their elections are bought by DOMESTIC plutocrats, crooks, and robber-barons. But most of those people at least CLAIM to be against having their elections bought by FOREIGN plutocrats, crooks, and robber-barons.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
6. The surveillance was on the Russian ambassador apparently, spies spying on spies.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:18 AM
Mar 2017

And then he goes to Trump Tower, probably carrying a cell phone with a microphone. Since he is under surveillance, they probably can turn on any and all devices around him to listen in, except microwave ovens, of course. So all laptop and phone cameras and microphones would be tuned to the conversation.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
21. The Wire Season 6
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:42 AM
Mar 2017

Lester, lets get up on the Echo Dots, they have one in every room of the trap house, souvlaki platter for lunch from the Greek?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
12. Trump himself was not under suveillance
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:01 AM
Mar 2017

but other phones in Trump Tower surely were - Paul Manafort lives there. The building has over 40 floors and donnie is far from the only person that lives there.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
7. Michael Ellis was House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Special Counsel, Nunes' lawyer
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:32 AM
Mar 2017

The lawyer for the investigating committee went to the White House to represent trump.

Wow, does that ever scream "We need a special prosecutor."









NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
16. Mensch has been outstanding
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:20 AM
Mar 2017

with her revelations over the past months. She's very well connected in the UK and a former MP

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
19. So not Mark Levin? Not Fox news? But trump team on tape from meets at trump tower?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:33 AM
Mar 2017

How the hell were these meetings taped???

No wonder this shit is classified.

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