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sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:33 PM Mar 2017

Architect Wants To Turn Old Subway Cars Into Housing For Homeless

Now here’s a housing solution we can get on board with.


When a famed Washington, D.C., architect learned of the city’s plan to scrap several fleets of old subway cars, he thought up a better use for the retired models. If Arthur Cotton Moore has his way, some of the outdated Metro cars could be turned into houses for homeless people.


“I thought it was just a terrible waste ― sending all these cars to the junkyard,” Moore, 81, told The Huffington Post.




The city plans to ax three of its old fleets ― several hundred cars in total ― and replace them with newer ones. It has already begun sending some to a junkyard in Baltimore, but it will take years to complete the deliveries, according to The Washington Post.

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The work that the tiny homes would need ― which includes installing prefabricated bathrooms and kitchens ― wouldn’t actually cost that much, Moore insists. He hopes to pitch his idea to the D.C. City Council and thinks it would be a far cheaper homeless program than what’s been offered so far.



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He said the cars are heavy and aerodynamic enough to withstand strong winds. They already have windows, so that’s taken care of. And the doors at either end of the cars could be repurposed as front entrances for each apartment. He’d also add concrete footings in place of the cars’ wheels, City Lab reported.


Moore would install solar panels to provide heat and hot water.





Read More:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/subway-metro-cars-homeless-housing_us_58d54c0ce4b03787d357f537?knm&

There were 8,350 homeless people in DC last year. I think this is a wonderful idea, it would be a start.

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Architect Wants To Turn Old Subway Cars Into Housing For Homeless (Original Post) sheshe2 Mar 2017 OP
That's a great idea Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #1
From the article... sheshe2 Mar 2017 #4
I had no idea it would cost that much to scrap them Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #6
That is the ticket! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #11
That's 1.3 million, not billion, but regardless, this seem like a good and workable concept. Yo_Mama Mar 2017 #10
Edited...thank you. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #12
or student housing or senior housing dembotoz Mar 2017 #2
Why no railroad cars instead? HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #3
Look up the McDonad's in Barstow, CA, made of RR dining cars and caboose pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #23
To create JOBS and help those in need turbinetree Mar 2017 #5
Yep! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #13
Only someone thinking in a progressive forward thinking manner would come up with that turbinetree Mar 2017 #15
Bless his heart he is 81 years old! sheshe2 Mar 2017 #16
Wado-------------Thank you turbinetree Mar 2017 #17
Great idea. Something that really matters. Metsie Casey Mar 2017 #7
Brilliant! mcar Mar 2017 #8
This is a wonderful idea! ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #9
i want one for a greenhouse. mopinko Mar 2017 #14
I know there are empty shopping malls from the '80's boom that need re-purposing. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #18
Another great idea. sheshe2 Mar 2017 #19
As a transportation planner, I can say this is an idiotic idea... brooklynite Mar 2017 #20
Thank you so much for you support... sheshe2 Mar 2017 #21
Perhaps, but the city will already have to pay to dispose them TexasBushwhacker Mar 2017 #22
Well, we strip the mechanicals out of ours and drop them in the ocean... brooklynite Mar 2017 #24
Yup, add more garbage to the ocean. That's the ticket. shraby Mar 2017 #25
caves, caves are what we need to retrofit snooper2 Mar 2017 #26
For some environmental reason, NY will not use them to build artificial reefs HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #27

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
4. From the article...
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:55 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Finding a piece of land for a Metrotopia shouldn’t be all that challenging either. The McKinney Act authorizes the government to designate unused federal property for homeless people.


Moore also envisions making room for a vegetable garden on the property. It could function as a co-op, which is often desperately needed in underserved areas that lack supermarkets.



This really would be a thing of beauty if the plan is approved...Scrapping the first of three fleets alone will cost Baltimore 1.3 million. Money saved could be used on this project.

Thanks for responding Phoenix.

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
6. I had no idea it would cost that much to scrap them
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 05:55 PM
Mar 2017

They could really go all out and throw in a social worker, substance abuse counselor, GED teacher and maybe even a doc that comes by from time to time.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
11. That is the ticket!
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:50 PM
Mar 2017

All great ideas Phoenix, thanks. Sad that it would cost more to scrap them than make it an alternate living condition for the homeless. This could be huge.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
10. That's 1.3 million, not billion, but regardless, this seem like a good and workable concept.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:08 PM
Mar 2017

The subway cars I am familiar with are built. It should be fast, cheap and effective to set this up. At time when a severe shortage of Section 8 housing has people on waiting lists for years, an idea like this one should receive very careful consideration.

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
3. Why no railroad cars instead?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 04:49 PM
Mar 2017

So easy to shop around the country to where they are wanted. So easy to sell.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
15. Only someone thinking in a progressive forward thinking manner would come up with that
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:16 PM
Mar 2017

brilliant idea

lindysalsagal

(20,584 posts)
18. I know there are empty shopping malls from the '80's boom that need re-purposing.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:33 PM
Mar 2017

The cost would be in insurance and supervision, but, hey, that would mean jobs, so, let's get to it.

With the malls, you could even make the bathrooms and kitchens and laundry community-shared, thereby making them easier to maintain and repair. Some people would just as soon relinquish the ownership and upkeep, anyway.

A simple meal system would be better than begging in the street, and less wasteful than out-sourcing where someone has to make a profit. Local shops and restaurants could donate leftovers to one location.

For a family with kids, knowing you could get by and stay safe and dry, and stop the endless moving around from shelter to shelter, your kids could remain at the same school and develop healthy social lives. Public transportation would be easier from a central location, and you could even consider bringing in routine, basic healthcare.

It has to be cheaper than profit-based hotels, which offer no services. The empty malls aren't generating any tax revenue.

All we lack is compassion and political will.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
20. As a transportation planner, I can say this is an idiotic idea...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 12:13 AM
Mar 2017

The reason people live in campers or mobile homes is that THEY'RE ACTUALLY DESIGNED TO BE LIVED IN. The amount of retrofitting to add lights, power, water and heat to a transit vehicle would make this far less cost effective than actually building a cabin or buying the resident a camper.

sheshe2

(83,654 posts)
21. Thank you so much for you support...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:23 AM
Mar 2017

and the smack down.

So the architect adding solar for light, heat and water is idiotic and estimates for bath and kitchen is all wrong. I appreciate all your imput and bow to your superior knowledge. I have never said a cruel word to you and have always rec'ed your posts. You most certainly could have trashed my thread more diplomatically and you did it in all caps...yelling at me.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,144 posts)
22. Perhaps, but the city will already have to pay to dispose them
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 01:40 AM
Mar 2017

It makes sense to repurpose them in some way, rather than paying for them to be scrapped AND paying to build housing for the homeless.

brooklynite

(94,358 posts)
24. Well, we strip the mechanicals out of ours and drop them in the ocean...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:36 AM
Mar 2017

...where they become reefs for coral.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
25. Yup, add more garbage to the ocean. That's the ticket.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:10 AM
Mar 2017

Homes for coral, and not for people. Great idea! What's your next gem?

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
27. For some environmental reason, NY will not use them to build artificial reefs
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:22 AM
Mar 2017

They will however ship them to other states to do the same. Insert obnoxious NJ joke.

It is not dumping garbage for anyone that thinks so. It is providing valuable habitat to wildlife.

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