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elleng

(130,759 posts)
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:35 PM Mar 2017

'Way Out of Line: Iowa Voters Rethink Support for Steve King

ORANGE CITY, Iowa — A year ago, Evan Wielenga, 40, believed — as does his congressman, Steve King — that undocumented immigrants should all be deported. They broke the law to enter the country. They spoke little English. They strained schools and public services.

But as talk of a border wall and a Muslim ban overtook the presidential campaign, Mr. Wielenga, the agronomy manager of a farmers’ co-op here in northwestern Iowa, had a change of heart.

He heard dairy farmers say they couldn’t get their cows milked without immigrants. “You can put an ad in the paper and you won’t get two white guys to apply,” said Mr. Wielenga, who grew up on a dairy farm himself.

He heard of the ruinous damage an immigration raid had done to families. “Some of these kids were born in the U.S.,” he said. “These families had lived here 10 years, and all of a sudden, Dad’s gone, Mom’s gone. When you think of it from that perspective, what’s the lesser of two evils?”

Mr. King, a Republican who has displayed a Confederate battle flag on his desk in Washington, shows no sign of budging in his views. His latest anti-immigrant tirade — “We can’t restore our civilization with somebody else’s babies,” he said — once again drew wide condemnation and critical attention to Iowa’s Fourth Congressional District, whose voters overwhelmingly re-elected him to an eighth term in November.

Sioux County, Mr. Wielenga’s home, provided the largest margin in the 39-county district, Iowa’s most conservative. And there is no shortage of voters who echo Mr. King’s contention that “culture and demographics are our destiny,” as he said earlier this month to cheers from white supremacists.

But in conversations over four days with residents who voted for Mr. King, a new chorus of earnest naysayers could also be heard in many corners of the district. Some said the congressman’s latest provocation — uttered in support of a far-right Dutch politician — was finally more than they could brook. Several said they were rethinking their support.

“I’ve always voted for him, but I think this was way out of line,” said Bill Kooi, a retired farmer, sipping coffee at a Hardees in Orange City, as the friends who shared his table — to a man, older white conservatives — all nodded.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/28/us/steve-king-iowa-immigration.html?

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'Way Out of Line: Iowa Voters Rethink Support for Steve King (Original Post) elleng Mar 2017 OP
vote him out Iowa , come on! JHan Mar 2017 #1
You know what to do, Iowa. LoisB Mar 2017 #2
Sioux County? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #3
Hopefully, come November 2018, GWC58 Mar 2017 #4
Come November 2018, they will be bankrupt because they can't get help egold2604 Mar 2017 #9
And the business model that relies on low paid undocumented workers guillaumeb Mar 2017 #10
You gave the right answer Wellstone ruled Mar 2017 #8
Iowa, I believe GWC58 Mar 2017 #12
That son of a bitch had a confederate flag on his desk? GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #5
I am from rural upstate Ny. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #11
WHY?! white_wolf Mar 2017 #13
The fact that undocumented workers are a source of cheap labor on dairy farms DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #6
Talk is cheap. Let's see if Iowans Golden Raisin Mar 2017 #7
A lot of these folks voted for people like King BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #14

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Sioux County?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 06:46 PM
Mar 2017

A reference to those non-whites who suffered genocide at the hands of whites. What an ironic name for the County, and these oblivious beneficiaries of that genocide.

Are these conservative farmers worried about the racism, or worried about not being able to pay low wages to non-citizens?

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
4. Hopefully, come November 2018,
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:05 PM
Mar 2017

those Iowa voters will use their brains and not their reflexes, reflexively always voting for that ignoramus. Stevev King is a joke, a not very funny joke!

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
10. And the business model that relies on low paid undocumented workers
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 09:44 PM
Mar 2017

is a plantation type business.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. You gave the right answer
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:01 PM
Mar 2017

in your second paragraph. Know the area,and wow,that is so right on. You will find more Confederate flags in that County than most of Alabama.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
12. Iowa, I believe
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:31 PM
Mar 2017

sent many soldiers to the south fighting for the Union. Different times, I guess. Former GA Congressman Paul Broun called the Civil War "the war of northern aggression." This coming from a, then, U.S. Congressman.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. That son of a bitch had a confederate flag on his desk?
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:08 PM
Mar 2017

As a southerner whose ancestors fought for the wrong side of that war I know that the boys from Iowa did perhaps more than soldiers from any other state to ensure a union victory. Those midwestern boys were the ones who were tougher than the southern ones when going got tough. The southern farm boys thought they could handle the wilderness better than the city folks from the east. And often times they could. But it was the midwesterners that one that war.

Of course, the soldiers from New England would argue with my assessment. Especially at Little round top.

Whoever runs against them should bring the fact up and point out that he is dishonoring their ancestors who died in that war.

I can actually understand the perverse logic that allows a southern descendent of Confederate soldiers to feel that attraction to that flag. For a northerner or midwesterner to do so is unquestionably Proud racism.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
11. I am from rural upstate Ny.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 10:21 PM
Mar 2017

And I had a Great Great Uncle die the first day of Gettysburg Part of the 97th NY. Conkling's Rifle brigade that over ran & captured Iverson's Brigade. A year before that; my Great Great Grandfather & his two sons all wounded at Antietam.
I despise the Confederacy & the supporters today North & South. Here in upstate NY I see these dumb redneck mother fuckers with confederate flags on them & it makes my blood boil!

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
13. WHY?!
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:37 PM
Mar 2017

I don't get why people from northern states fly that flag. They can't even fall back on the lame ass "heritage not hate" BS because their heritage is fighting against that traitorous hateful flag.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
6. The fact that undocumented workers are a source of cheap labor on dairy farms
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 07:15 PM
Mar 2017

Should not be the reason one opposes mass deportations and a racist buffoon like Steve King.

BumRushDaShow

(128,523 posts)
14. A lot of these folks voted for people like King
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 07:47 PM
Mar 2017

and Drumpf strictly for one primordial reason - they "look like them". The "policy things" were considered "talk" and something to cheer about but they felt none of it impacted them because of who promised these "policy things"... with the assumption they would be "looked after".

They are now waking up to the nightmare that their mob reaction at the polls, which was a result of their mob mentality, has brought forth.

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