CBS News Uncovers Extremely Shady Mike Pence/Russia Connection Buckle Up

[babylonsister]

http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/03/27/cbs-news-uncovers-extremely-shady-mike-pencerussia-connection-buckle-up/


CBS News Uncovers Extremely Shady Mike Pence/Russia Connection – Buckle Up
By Georgia Bristow -
March 27, 2017


Despite all the controversy swirling around various Trump campaign members and their links to Russia, Vice-President Mike Pence’s Russian connection should not be overlooked.

When former Trump campaign chairman, Paul Manafort’s Russian ties were discovered by the media, he immediately resigned. Once again the Trump campaign is making headlines as more news about Paul Manafort and various members of the Trump administration emerge and show clear links to Russia.

So where does Mike Pence come into play?

Well, according to the New York Post, Donald Trump had plans to ask New Jersey Governor Chris Christie to run as his vice president but ended up asking Indiana Governor Mike Pence, after Paul Manafort insisted he give him further consideration.

Echoing a similar sentiment to the New York Post, CBS News further begs that we take a closer look at Mike Pence, saying:

‘Manafort had arranged for Trump to meet with his first choice for the job on July 13: Indiana Governor Mike Pence. Afterwards, the plan was for Trump and Pence to then fly back to New York together and a formal announcement would be made, a campaign source said of Manafort’s thinking.’

‘What had previously been reported as a “lucky break” by the New York Times was actually a swift political maneuver devised by the now fired campaign manager. Set on changing Trump’s mind, he concocted a story that Trump’s plane had mechanical problems, forcing the soon-to-be Republican nominee to stay the night in Indianapolis for breakfast with the Pence family on Wednesday morning.’

‘Swayed by Pence’s aggressive pitch, Trump agreed to ditch Christie and make Pence his VP the following day, according to a source.’

Back in October The Young Turks addressed the fact that Trump’s first pick for VP was not Pence, and Manafort manipulated the situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=LMY9uszM_j4

Other reports showed that Manafort’s reach went much further that just the VP pick, and extended to advising Donald Trump on several of his cabinet picks.

A source told The Daily Beast:

‘I think he’s weighing in on everything. I think he still talks to Trump every day. I mean, Pence? That was all Manafort. Pence is on the phone with Manafort regularly.’

‘A guy like Manafort tries to make sure that the government is as comfortable for business as possible. He wants names he knows on every door.’

With the focus being brought back to the Trump campaign/Russian connection, and the FBI revealing evidence that links Trump’s associates, past and present, to the Russian government it’s time to remember that the man at the middle of it all, Paul Manafort, hand picked Mike Pence to be Vice President. The next in line, should anything happen to the volatile President of the United States, was planted there by a man who has undeniably suspicious ties to Russia.

Although, for the most part, Mike Pence has managed to stay out of the spotlight, his role should be looked at more closely.

[jberryhill]

1. What an astoundingly misleading headline

Manafort was involved in the selection of Pence. Yes, that's nothing new.

The article promises an "Extremely Shady Mike Pence/Russia Connection", but does not describe one other than the mundane fact that Pence, along with anyone else in the campaign, is connected with Manafort.

Perhaps I missed it, but what is this "Extremely Shady Mike Pence/Russia Connection"?

[Vinnie From Indy]

2. Agreed

[IndianaDave]

16. Any connection seems pretty tenuous.

The article does not assert any real Russia ties. This is kind of a strange posting, IMO.

[wordpix]

37. just looked up Pence Russia & lots of info

Basically, Pence hasn't said a word against Russia/Putin and has backed up Trump every time in the "moral equivalency" argument. Case in point:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mike-pence-chuck-todd-why-cant-trump-say-a-negative-thing-about-putin

He's suspect

[IndianaDave]

55. Thanks - I hadn't seen that.

[Pacifist Patriot]

4. Such headlines annoy the daylights out of me.

I was expecting something like investment, debt, or hookers.

[aeromanKC]

12. Male Hookers

And you knew they would have been male Hookers!!

[bigtree]

6. Manafort's role in choosing Pence as VP? It's as shady as Manafort proves to be.

In a confidential strategy plan in 2005, AP reports, Mr Manafort proposed to influence politics, business dealings and news coverage in the US, Europe and the ex-Soviet republics to advance the interests of the Putin government.

"We are now of the belief that this model can greatly benefit the Putin government if employed at the correct levels with the appropriate commitment to success,'' Mr Manafort is said to have written, adding that it would be offering "a great service that can refocus, both internally and externally, the policies of the Putin government".

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39350007

[jberryhill]

18. It's pretty safe to assume a "link" between Trump's campaign manager and anyone in the campaign

It would be news if the campaign manager WASN'T involved in the VP selection.

The headline is clickbait which alleges a Pence/Russia connection.

[bigtree]

45. it's more info

...and responses assume these things are common knowledge.

Check polling. There are still many who aren't aware of these connections. Besides, most news advances on a confluence of reports, like this one, which confirm what insiders have already gleaned.

I really don't understand the need some feel to dismiss or criticize the post or the headline. Can our case and positions against Trump really advance without aggressive promotion by opponents?

[Fantastic Anarchist]

49. I thought the same thing at first.

But the shady part is why did he all of a sudden make a change from Christie to Pence? I still agree that the headline is sensational, and possibly not a big deal, but in context with everything in the scandal as a whole, this has the potential to bigger than it is at first glance. If Putin swayed Manafort to choose Pence over Christie, then that is a huge deal. As it stands now, it's only suspicious. I am curious as to why they changed VP picks.

[jberryhill]

50. Because Christie was damaged goods

Only now that Kelly and Baroni have gone all the way to sentencing without squealing, was it safe to appoint Christie to anything, which Trump has now done.

Christie had more baggage than Samsonite.

They needed someone "clean" to avoid the storm and pardon them all afterwards.

[HoneyBadger]

52. Christie is THAT close to being a felon

I assume that campaigns consider these things.

[babylonsister]

7. Could be for people less informed than we are.

I knew about the connection and posted about it recently but there are a lot of people who don't. And this is a whole two days old.

[jberryhill]

19. You did not know that Manafort was Trump's campaign manager?

Seriously?

Manafort was chairman of the Trump campaign through August. Pence was selected in July. For it to be "news" that the chairman and manager of a presidential campaign was involved in selecting the VP candidate requires a profound degree of... I don't know what to call it.

[MurrayDelph]

35. To hear him tell it

Sean Spicer didn't know that Manafort was Trump's campaign manager.

[jberryhill]

36. who listens to Sean Spicer?

[babylonsister]

38. That is not what I said or wrote.

Yes, I of course knew that, as well as knew that Manafort hired Pence. I said this could be for people who didn't know.

[jberryhill]

39. What "extremely shady" thing did CBS find?

Here, Raw Story, October 2016:

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/10/paul-manafort-tricked-trump-into-switching-from-christie-to-pence-by-faking-airplane-malfunction/

Paul Manafort tricked Trump into switching from Christie to Pence by faking airplane malfunction

----

What is for "people who didn't know"? It's a bullshit clickbait headline.

[turbo_satan]

47. Not so fast...

At first I was annoyed by the headline, but I think the point the author was trying to make (and don't forget that often, the headline is not written by the author) is that Manafort is so shady that there has to be a sinister reason he'd go to such great lengths to get Trump to ditch Christie and draft Pence. The author doesn't actually propose and answer; just a strong suggestion that this is something that merits a closer look.

[Hyper_Eye]

15. Yeah. Call me when there's a there there.

Stuff like this detracts from the real connections and stories that should drive investigations and hearings. Propagating shallow stories like this makes it look like we are grasping at straws when we have no reason to be. When you can see thick black smoke rising you have a pretty good idea of where the fire is.

[jberryhill]

30. " Stuff like this detracts from the real connections "

That is the purpose of "stuff like this".

[Alice11111]

17. Really.

[LiberalFighter]

53. Yes! bipartisan is more click & bait.

[jaxind]

3. Well...

Well, the fact that he lied and said he didn't know Flynn was a foreign agent (has to be a lie since Cummings sent him a letter on it, and it was all over the media), should give people pause. And, I'm sure Pence knew that Flynn talked to Kisliyak about the sanctions when he told Chris Wallace that Flynn had not discussed such matters, that should also give people pause.

[jmg257]

5. Wow - Manafort made recommendations on admin posts when he was head of the campaign? OMG!

"Extremely shady"??

[global1]

8. There Is Nothing Wrong With Following Up On Why Manafort Was So Big On Pence?.....

In order to do a complete investigation into Trump/Russia campaign and transition teams possible collusion I think it is in order to look into the relationship between Manafort and Pence. How long have they known each other? Did they have any kind of business relationship before this? etc.....

I have my doubts that Pence was lily white innocent in this and there is nothing more than Manafort making recommendations to Trump.

What was it that convinced Trump to pick Pence? What pushed him over the edge from his original pick of Christie?

[tavernier]

27. What pushed him over from original pick of Christie"

Yeah, that got me scratching my head as well. Trump's not the sort to be overly impressed by a cozy family dinner in Hoosierland. Had to be more to it than that, to sweeten the pot and make him choose Pence over his pizza pal.

[bettyellen]

9. Misleading headline- you'd think there was a direct connection but there is not ... unrec

[KittyWampus]

23. Actually, there MAY BE A CONNECTION but it isn't addressed. But it needs investigating.

[bettyellen]

25. Sure but the OP implies one was uncovered and it seems everyday we have BS headlines in GD

Which is not good for anyone - especially w current campaign to discredit the left and all media.

[jberryhill]

29. There "may be" anything

I guarantee you that Trump's friends are going to try to float false or misleading stories in an attempt to get Trump's opponents to bite on a fake one.

There is plenty of confirmed information, and there is surely more to turn up.

Exaggerations and false statements are unhelpful, because false statements like the one in the OP will be used to discredit the ongoing effort.

Just like the phony "Trump Rape Case" that was used to suck the air out of other accusations against Trump, or the Texas Air National Guard Memo that was used to torpedo Dan Rather, falling for fake stuff does not help.

If anything, Pence was selected because he is "clean". Christie had known problems, and nobody wanted Christie's issues to spread into more general scrutiny of the people around Trump.

In that regard, Pence is a good foil - e.g. the way that "lying to Pence" was used as the excuse for firing Flynn. Not a word about what Trump knew or when.

That's what makes Pence useful.

[wordpix]

33. this article says Pence/Manafort had lots of phone convos during transitn

https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/mike-pence-appears-donald-trump-transition-team-member-caught-wiretap/2036/

snip: This week House Intelligence Committee chair Devin Nunes got his hands on some kind of classified intelligence through unofficial channels, and it spooked him to the point that he broke every protocol – and may have broken his career in the process. Nunes insists someone on the Donald Trump transition team was legally picked up on a wiretap that was targeted at someone else. And it appears the person incidentally surveilled was Vice President Mike Pence.

Based on Nunes’ description, someone on the Trump transition team was picked up while speaking on the phone with someone who was the subject of a FISA warrant. Widespread media reports have long pegged four people in the Trump campaign’s orbit as being under FBI investigation: Michael Flynn, Carter Page, Roger Stone, and Paul Manafort. These are the four who could realistically have been the subject of a judge-issued FISA surveillance warrant.

Of the four men, the only one who is known to have had phone conversations with anyone on the Trump transition team during the transition was Manafort. And the one person Manafort kept calling? Mike Pence (source: Daily Kos. The two have long been aligned; Manafort went to great lengths to ensure Pence was Trump’s running mate. So it appears that Devin Nunes learned this week that Pence had been caught saying something disconcerting on Manafort’s wiretap. And that may explain why Nunes did what he did from there.

[RedWedge]

10. Bipartisan Report headlines oversell.

Anything that aggregates and spins is bound to do that to get clicks without any hard work.

[LS_Editor]

11. There is nothing there.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

14. Let's not discredit ourselves by jumping on the BPR clickbait bandwagon.

Let the facts speak as they may, but if I really want to know what a CBS reports says, I'll go to CBS.

[wordpix]

34. nothing wrong with speculation as long as we know that's what it is

I speculated a few wks. ago that something was up w/Nunes. This based on his worried looks, constant frowns and refusal to state anything about trumprussia, and only about leaks. Turns out there IS something there there.

[Lucinda]

20. I am curious why Pence was Manafort's choice, and why he was so keen for him to be the guy

that he lied to Trumpy....definitely warrants looking into!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

21. Not recommending thread because of misleading headline. Sorry to have to kick it to say so. . . nt

[progressoid]

31. Agreed.

I'm guessing most of the rec's haven't actually read the story.

[KittyWampus]

22. Manafort chose Pence? I though Manafort just brought sandwiches to the headquarters a few times?

[LiberalLovinLug]

24. Nothing much new but it still raises the obvious question

Was Pence also fully aware of Russia's involvement and fine with it?

Now I think its obvious he was, how could he not? And the fake hubbub about having to fire Flynn because he 'misled' Pence about his ties to Russia are pure utter bunk meant as cover for the VP.

But our best hope should not be a Pence presidency, it should be a a re-do. Or whatever would happen in that unprecedented case when both executives, + top ranking GOP are all found complicit.

[jberryhill]

42. "Or whatever would happen in that unprecedented case when both executives..."

"Unprecedented" like Nixon/Agnew?

[LiberalLovinLug]

44. True but not at the same time and for the same reasons.

Gerald Ford was in place awhile before Nixon resigned.

What would happen if both Trump and Pence were indicted? And all top Republicans in the House and Senate were also found complicit? Which I think they are, but probably will never pay for it.

[Panich52]

26. Pence had leading role in transitionquestionable Flynn

would've found it necessary to lie about Russian contacts since Pence likely would've known about the calls. If Pence isn't complicit, he was an abbettor.

[Kablooie]

28. This is the start of left fake news.

Just because pence was maneuvered into place by manafort is not in itself any indication of wrong doing. It would be worth investigating further but this news by itself is the kind of thing Fox would do. Cbs is losing their credibility.

[jberryhill]

41. CBS had nothing to to with this clickbait article

Manafort's maneuvering to get Trump to pick Pence was known at the time.

Christie was damaged goods. Only now that Baroni and Kelly have gone all the way to conviction without squealing was it safe to appoint Christie to anything.

[wordpix]

32. sleuths out there should do some digging into PenceRussia

There's got to be something Manafort wanted Pence for besides "he so nice and mild-mannered." I doubt Manafort cares about such things.

[jberryhill]

40. Pence would survive an impeachment and pardon everyone else

[spanone]

46. pence is a sanctimonious, dangerous mofo

[Crash2Parties]

48. When all is said and done, will it really be President Paul Ryan???

[WinkyDink]

51. What is most shocking to me in the entire saga is how easily all these men embraced treason.

[Cognitive_Resonance]

54. Putin's paid operative Manafort pulled-out the stops to get Mike Pence on the ticket. Take-away:

Pence is somebody the puppet-master can control. Why else would Manafort be so aggressive toward ensuring Pence was number two? What kind of leveragedo the Russians hold over Pence? The Russians are seasoned experts when it comes to compromise and coercion, their modus operandi. It raises a further question...who are the compromised assets? Representatives, Senators, cabinet appointees? Putin is playing for keeps. Who do they own?